Post your snow leopard flaws (The Snow Leopard bug report)

[Washac]

Random total system freezes that require a hard reset

Random power offs where all of a sudden the system reboots on its own without any warning

Random kernel panics (these haven't happened since 10.6.2 though)

All of these only happen when I set the graphics to "Better performance" instead of "Better Battery Life". If I use the dedicated graphics (Better Performance) these problems happen about once every day or 2 days.

I hate it and I wish I hadn't installed Snow Leopard. I'm not going to put Leopard back now because of the hassle. I just wish the updates would actually do something about this. I never modified my system and I never installed any weird applications that would tweak anything, I don't think a reinstall would help, my MacBook Pro is just over a year old.

Still getting the random Kernel Panics on my Mac Pro with 10.6.2, also Safari and Firefox still crash all over the place with 10.6.2

Wish somebody would shoot that Snow Leopard this is the worst Mac I have ever owned.

I have also read that reinstalling Leopard does not solve some of the problems, seems SL installs problems that you cannot clear by going back

 

[idunn]

No going home

My understanding, and experience, that it is possible to revert to the former OS, Leopard, from Snow Leopard. But without problems only if willing to forsake all previous files.

I did at last revert to 10.5 from SL, thinking all was well at first, then experiencing problems (see post #493 on this thread for more details). A Genius at an Apple store suggested I move back to SL, saying that all files on a computer when upgraded to SL will be encoded with it. This is invisible, save reverting to a former OS, which may have issues with the files. Theoretically, the only way to escape this would be to remove all files from a computer before installing SL; once said files returned to that computer and new OS, they (and you) are committed.

My best solution was to do a clean install of SL, not the upgrade suggested by Apple's SL DVD. This fixed the immediate problem, but in my estimation SL remains a buggy OS. So the advice remains, if choosing SL be prepared to live with it.

 

[xraydoc]

Still getting the random Kernel Panics on my Mac Pro with 10.6.2, also Safari and Firefox still crash all over the place with 10.6.2

Wish somebody would shoot that Snow Leopard this is the worst Mac I have ever owned.

I have also read that reinstalling Leopard does not solve some of the problems, seems SL installs problems that you cannot clear by going back

Your problems sound more hardware related, particularly because a new OS install doesn't solve the issues.

 

[drueter]

SL bug when copying from network drive

I have a network-attached drive (Iomega Home Media Network Hard Drive). I had started to put iPhoto libraries there but changed my mind and then tried to copy them to a firewire drive instead. I thought I'd be able to simply drag the library from the NAS to the new drive, but the operation halts with an error, saying 'The operation can't be completed because an item with the name "[folder name]" already exists.' Apparently the copy operation creates the folder, but later in the the process it tries to create it again.

I tried the same thing, copying the contents to a folder on the iMac's internal drive, and it worked fine. Also, I can copy directly from the network drive to the firewire drive in Windows XP running under Netware Fusion.

I'm running the latest software rev. for the Iomega drive (2.063) and OS X Version 10.6.2 on the Mac.

 

[jamesraward]

My Mini is sluggish, and Firefox seems to be unstable. Logitech's LCC software doesn't recognize my MX Revolution mouse anymore.

I'm getting lots of firefox issues and the spinning wheel, but I can't be bothered to reinstall leopard

 

[celticpride678]

Just to post an updated list of issues with 10.6.2:

1. Airport connection will randomly stop working (Does not load webpages), but Airport is still connected
2. MacBook will not sleep automatically, only manually telling it to
3. Multi-touch will randomly stop working
4. When switching from space to space using the CMD-ARROW KEYS shortcut, I notice that the little image showing what space you are on now "freezes" on the screen and requires a logout
5. Safari is beginning to freeze up and crash on me

Does anyone have ideas on any of these issues? Thanks.

 

[MooneyFlyer]

Just to post an updated list of issues with 10.6.2:

1. Airport connection will randomly stop working (Does not load webpages), but Airport is still connected
2. MacBook will not sleep automatically, only manually telling it to
3. Multi-touch will randomly stop working
4. When switching from space to space using the CMD-ARROW KEYS shortcut, I notice that the little image showing what space you are on now "freezes" on the screen and requires a logout
5. Safari is beginning to freeze up and crash on me

Does anyone have ideas on any of these issues? Thanks.

I'm having:
>> 3. Multi-touch will randomly stop working
Also, swipe left/right on my magic mouse will sometimes stop. This is new and I can't tell if it was because of better touch tool or something. Reboots cause it sometimes and fix it others..

I thought I was having:
>> 2. MacBook will not sleep automatically, only manually telling it to
But I'm honestly not sure now. I have to watch closely tomorrow and see if mail is being downloaded overnight. With the superdrive noise gone I forget to check if it was actually sleeping or not visually.

 

[celticpride678]

I'm having:
>> 3. Multi-touch will randomly stop working
Also, swipe left/right on my magic mouse will sometimes stop. This is new and I can't tell if it was because of better touch tool or something. Reboots cause it sometimes and fix it others..

Same here. When I reboot, it will happen and then restarting again fixes it. Weird...

And, I don't want to have PleaseSleep running, Apple should fix the sleep issues soon.

 

[RubbishBBspeed]

Not sure if this is a bug as most of my SL "issues" have been solved with the update. However I am suffering with a significant increase in dvd burn time, what used to take little over an hour now easily takes two and a 90 minutes video on friday took nearly six hours.

Although if anyone is able to provide an obvious solution (like switch off this or turn on that or get rid of this), through experience. Then that would be a nice helpful tip.

I recently attempted to get Bloomberg webtv to work on my macbook by installing flip4mac as suggested, I get moving picture no problem but no sound, not even a volume control and am wondering if this is the culprit.

 

[Haggers]

Scanning function gone AWOL after Snow Leopard

I wish I hadn't installed SL. Everything worked before but now my HP C4180 printer which has a scanner in it will not scan. The system can't locate the scanner. Try as I may, I can't get it to work. It is a waste of my time and I will buy a new printer/scanner that was been built after SL.

I hate the waste of time with a passion.

--- After looking more carefully on the Hewlett Packard site I found that the scanner is now operated via the Apple Image Capture application. It does work. It would have been nice for some sort of message about this.

 

[EyeForget]

A constant irritant

10.6.2 Too many minor issues. Seldom a day goes by that I don't have to mess with something or another.

Some PPC apps don't run under Rosetta, simply crash.

Taskbar loses icons.

Schedule in Energy Saver does not allow a change to am/pm box. Its stuck on PM.

Mail does not seem to like Yahoo's servers or does not work with the Keychain. This started recently in Leopard and is also an issue in SL.

Bluetooth disappears. Even the icon in SysPrefs was gone.

Magic Mouse does not hold settings.

Finder slowed down to a crawl.

GraphicConverter browser opens sloooooooooooow. Tried a beta but it crashed (OK).

Printers and scanners are a mess. Drivers supposedly SL compatible crash (Epson, what would one expect), Apple's screens are a mess with conflicting printer info on various screens. Getting the scanner to work requires going into SysPrefs and using the panel there. GraphicConverter, Photoshop and Image Capture don't see the scanner. Image Capture will after I go to SysPrefs and initiate a scan there.

Finder in columns mode won't move with the mouse if trying to move a file to a column that's not visible. Back to 2 Finder windows.

iPods no longer sync.

Stupid Time Machine nags every time a hard drive is mounted.

Just as slow waking up on a 2.8 GHz iMac. However, the spinning ball is gone.

There have been more issues I forgot about. All the above were corrected by either using Terminal or pitching plists.

Overall I can't see a single performance increase. No decrease, simply a waste of time updating. Either not ready for prime time or Apple should have saved us all some time and stuck with Leopard (or Tiger which two of our machines will now stay on).

 

[macrem]

My lucky copy of SL does not have any of these issues.

 

[mateus]

Snow Leopard and ATI X1600 don't work well - iMovie, iPhoto, Preview and Aperture often show a green pattern when editing (possibly a memory problem).



In iPhoto, often it's just the zoom window that gets effected but, as shown above, sometimes it's the whole screen.

Reported by many users to Apple and there are several threads on the Apple Discussion site.

 

[TonyK]

Sounds like a load of BULL to me. No OS is going to modify the header portion of word processing documents, image files, zipped files, etc. It would render them un-usable, even on that OS. Only if a person were to encrypt their system would this make sense. Then the encryption layer would be responsible for decrypt/encrypt on disk reads/writes.

... A Genius at an Apple store suggested I move back to SL, saying that all files on a computer when upgraded to SL will be encoded with it. This is invisible, save reverting to a former OS, which may have issues with the files....

 

[colourfastt]

I've put SL on all 4 of my Macs (MBA, 15" MBP, 17" MBP, and 24" iMac) and did the standard upgrade, not a wipe and install, and haven't had a single problem with any of them. Of course, before doing the upgrades I inventoried my applications to make sure that they were SL compliant or checked for a SL-compliant update. If not then the app was discarded. Repeat: not a single problem with SL on any of my 4 Macs.

 

[TonyK]

I did the same thing and I also waited for the second patch to arrive (once I heard about the "guest" account issue). Going on 2 days and no problems yet. Still have to recalibrate this monitor and play more with Aperture and PS CS3. Yet I do not anticipate any major issues.

I've put SL on all 4 of my Macs (MBA, 15" MBP, 17" MBP, and 24" iMac) and did the standard upgrade, not a wipe and install, and haven't had a single problem with any of them. Of course, before doing the upgrades I inventoried my applications to make sure that they were SL compliant or checked for a SL-compliant update. If not then the app was discarded. Repeat: not a single problem with SL on any of my 4 Macs.

 

[oreiser]

Snow Leopard problems

I have two problems with Snow Leopard, running 10.6.2 latest update

(1) Macbook Pro (2.4 GHz): After wakeup from deep sleep, most of the applications are crashing (e.g. office, firefox) and cannot be restarted. The only way to fix this is restarting the computer, then everything is normal again, applications run without problems. This problem exists since I upgraded from Leopard to Snow Leopard

(2) Mac Pro Quadcore (2.6 GHz): I cannot shut down the computer (spinning wheel). I can go as far as logging off from all accounts, I can even then put the computer to sleep, but shutting the computer down does consistently results in the spinning wheel.

On both computers I have repaired permissions, no improvement.

Does anyone have a suggestion what I coud try to get rid of these problems?

Thx
Oliver

 

[wrldwzrd89]

The deep sleep problem I have no clue how to diagnose. The shutdown problem, however, I can help with. Do you have any devices other than a keyboard and mouse connected to the Mac Pro's USB/FireWire ports? If you do, try disconnecting them prior to shutting down. I have the exact same problem on an iMac running SL. Disconnecting the devices fixes it every time it happens.

 

[elppa]

Random power offs where all of a sudden the system reboots on its own without any warning

Are you on battery when this happens?

 

[Forsaken]

I've put SL on all 4 of my Macs (MBA, 15" MBP, 17" MBP, and 24" iMac) and did the standard upgrade, not a wipe and install, and haven't had a single problem with any of them. Of course, before doing the upgrades I inventoried my applications to make sure that they were SL compliant or checked for a SL-compliant update. If not then the app was discarded. Repeat: not a single problem with SL on any of my 4 Macs.

With my (3 year old) MacBook it's responded perfectly, with no problems or such at all. Like you, I checked to make sure every app I had was compliant, and I trashed the ones I needed to upgrade. (So far img2icns has been the only app I've needed to upgrade)

So yeah, no bugs in the software or the hardware.

 

[oreiser]

Dfg Jp

The deep sleep problem I have no clue how to diagnose. The shutdown problem, however, I can help with. Do you have any devices other than a keyboard and mouse connected to the Mac Pro's USB/FireWire ports? If you do, try disconnecting them prior to shutting down. I have the exact same problem on an iMac running SL. Disconnecting the devices fixes it every time it happens.

I tried something similar already by disconnecting everything while the computer was off, waiting for one minute, then connecting again (I have only one external hard drive besides keyboard connected on USB/Firewire). I have not tried to shut down while having taken of the hard drive, I will try this when I am home again (Jan 10).

Thx
Oliver

 

[Denarius]

Little bit dodgy by the sounds of it!

Well I have the Snow Leopard family pack next to me in it's cellophane wrapper. Judging by reports here, I think it can stay in its wrapper until I hear some reports on 10.6.3 when it comes.

 

[TonyK]

Not sure of your setup and software. My system, upgraded this week, is running fine. The key is to inventory all of your software, update where possible and realize software made prior to the introduction of Rosetta and the Intel Macs may/will cause problems.

Take care,

Well I have the Snow Leopard family pack next to me in it's cellophane wrapper. Judging by reports here, I think it can stay in its wrapper until I hear some reports on 10.6.3 when it comes.

 

[macrem]

Well I have the Snow Leopard family pack next to me in it's cellophane wrapper. Judging by reports here, I think it can stay in its wrapper until I hear some reports on 10.6.3 when it comes.

There will always be users blaming the OS. I cannot reproduce any of the issues I have seen on this forum without intentionally installing questionable system tweaks. Unless you have a really specific case within your requirements that is not adequately supported, I see no reason to wait. I have been using 10.6 since 10.6.0 & had no regrets then either.

 

[Denarius]

There will always be users blaming the OS. I cannot reproduce any of the issues I have seen on this forum without intentionally installing questionable system tweaks. Unless you have a really specific case within your requirements that is not adequately supported, I see no reason to wait. I have been using 10.6 since 10.6.0 & had no regrets then either.

In the end I did install it (clean install) and it seems to be working fairly well. There are bugs, but nothing I consider critical.

Couple of things: -

1)Can't drag file onto a folder on a remote shared drive, have to open the folder and drag it into the space.

2)When Disk Utility is open, if you remove a CD/DVD then Disk Utility updates, but put another CD/DVD in and it fails to show the DVD in Disk Utility. Only way is to quit Disk Utility and open it again.

wrt Rosetta, I installed that as an optional install on Snow Leopard and it's in fine with no issues to my knowledge.