Post Your SSD/CF SATA/PATA PowerPC Benchmark Results

[Dronecatcher]

The score took quite a tumble 806 to 254.

You need to re-install - your Powerbook has clearly got a headache!

 

[AphoticD]

Here are geekbench results (sorry didn’t do “before” xbench results - oops)

Powerbook 17” 1.67ghz
2gb pc2700 ddr Sdram
(Before) hitachi travelstar 4200rpm 20gb hdd
(After) Innolite 64gb msata msata+MIC jmicron msata/pata adapter
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The score took quite a tumble 806 to 254.

Hey Rhian, It could have been in the middle of spotlight indexing. There’s no reason for the change of drives to affect Geekbench scores (CPU+memory). Is the SSD now behaving for you? Try running xbench to see the disk throughput.

 

[1042686]

Here ya go Dan. I DLd Xbench and below are the HDD results.

I not familiar with the scoring exactly. Is that an ok score?

 

[AphoticD]

Here ya go Dan. I DLd Xbench and below are the HDD results.

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I not familiar with the scoring exactly. Is that an ok score?

What you're seeing here is the SSD maxing out at 74MB/sec on a bus which is capable of getting 100MB/sec (and on the PB17" it should get close). We're seeing a variety of benchmarks, but on your hardware, it is capable of achieving a total disk score of 200+ points. My TiBook only hit 43 points, but @ziggy29 reported the TiBook is capable of 136+, so I really think it comes down the capabilities of the SSD.

I cheaped on the TiBook and went with a $25, 32GB KingSpec mSATA. Whereas I put 64GB KingSpec mSATA in my Aluminum PowerBooks, which massively outperformed the 32GB. However, given the speeds of the lower spec machines I've put them in, I'm not too phased about it and can't imagine them operating *that* much faster with a more expensive SSD.

All in all, your PowerBook should be quite a lot faster than the previous HDD setup - is there a noticeable improvement in boot times/app launching?

 

[1042686]

What you're seeing here is the SSD maxing out at 74MB/sec on a bus which is capable of getting 100MB/sec (and on the PB17" it should get close). We're seeing a variety of benchmarks, but on your hardware, it is capable of achieving a total disk score of 200+ points. My TiBook only hit 43 points, but @ziggy29 reported the TiBook is capable of 136+, so I really think it comes down the capabilities of the SSD.

I cheaped on the TiBook and went with a $25, 32GB KingSpec mSATA. Whereas I put 64GB KingSpec mSATA in my Aluminum PowerBooks, which massively outperformed the 32GB. However, given the speeds of the lower spec machines I've put them in, I'm not too phased about it and can't imagine them operating *that* much faster with a more expensive SSD.

All in all, your PowerBook should be quite a lot faster than the previous HDD setup - is there a noticeable improvement in boot times/app launching?

Certainly on bootup & with most apps, yes. Oddly enough other select times I feel like it almost lags or stalls sometimes - like during update/install from 10.5.4 to 10.5.8 it was slow as molasses it seemed. Of course that’s anecdotal human perception vs a measurable metric so yanno, take that with a grain of salt. Just ran geekbench again for ships n giggles and got a better score of 602 - still quite a dip from the results pre msata but whatevs NBD.

With all of this being said and despite the lower GB score, the machine is certainly zippier than it was in most arenas & I am very happy with the outcome. I would like to try this with a better quality 128GB mSata like a samsung at some point but for now, frankly, Im tired of taking this thing apart, so it stays the ways it is

 

[AphoticD]

Rhian, for peace of mind, check that Energy Saver is set to Highest Performance (from the battery icon in the menu) and try running again. I have a feeling that it should read the same 800+ scores again.

There should be no reason other than internal damage to the L2 or PMU which would cause the system to slow down after the HDD replacement.

 

[Lastic]

Machine: Power Mac G5 (11,2) Dual-Core 2.3Ghz
Energy Saving: Automatic Processor Performance

Energy Saving: Highest Processor Performance
SSD: OWC Mercury Elektra 3G SSD 120 GB -> https://macupgrade.eu/catalog/mercury-electra-ssd-120gb-3g-p-796.html
Adapter: 3.5" to 2.5" Bay Adapter -> https://macupgrade.eu/catalog/adaptadrive-25-to-35-drive-converter-bracket-p-675.html
Purchased: 2015
Price: SSD 79 EUR shipped locally with 23,98 EUR Bay Adapter shipped from the same seller
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Machine: PowerBook G4 1.5 Ghz
Energy Saving: Highest Processor Performance
SSD: Super Talent Duradrive ET3 PATA SSD 64 GB
-> http://www.supertalent.com/datasheets/6_10070.pdf
-> http://www.supertalent.com/products/ssd_product_detail.php?parent=others&category=DuraDrive&type=105
-> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Tale...852807&hash=item4ae68acae7:g:SSAAAOSwqu9VA-PC
Adapter: NA
Purchased: 2015
Price: 91,7 EUR shipped in Europe from Ebay Italy

 

[1042686]

Rhian, for peace of mind, check that Energy Saver is set to Highest Performance (from the battery icon in the menu) and try running again. I have a feeling that it should read the same 800+ scores again.

There should be no reason other than internal damage to the L2 or PMU which would cause the system to slow down after the HDD replacement.

Yeah Dan I made sure all settings were set to best performance, & swapped ddr modules just in case it was that - still hovering around 690

 

[laptech]

Just did xbench on my G4 667Mhz TI

SSD: 128GB cheap Chinese msata (non branded) £16
Adapter: Cheap Chinese msata - IDE (non-branded) £9

 

[AphoticD]

Machine: iBook G3 Blueberry 300Mhz
SSD: mSATA Kingspec 32GB mini-PCIe (AUD$33)
IDE/PATA Adapter: Chinese eBay special with JM20330 chipset (AUD$9)
Purchased: 2017
Price: AU$42 total inc shipping to Australia (approx US$32)

One for the clamshell iBook. Although the iBook didn't rock the charts, the SSD has made a significant boost on performance. The results indicate that the HDD bus is of the ATA/33 variety (Ultra ATA?).

Replacing the old 4200rpm 3GB HDD rattler (which tested around 7MB/sec top speed) with the SSD has created a silent 'book, much like the Pismo. There is a noticeable reduction in heat over the old drive too which was surprising. When the keyboard is lifted, I can literally reach in and touch the back of the SSD card and it is not emanating any heat at all, even after the spotlight indexing.

This upgrade has made the iBook quite comfortable to use in Tiger and I've installed a number of decent sized apps including Photoshop 7 and Xcode 2.5. All things considered, this Mac runs well and once I max out the RAM to 544MB it will perform at it's absolute peak.

 

[Lastic]

Machine: iBook G4 12" 1.07 Ghz, 1,25 GB RAM
Energy Saving: Highest Processor Performance
SSD: Samsung mSATA SSD 64 GB -> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEU-Samsung-64GB-Mini-PCIE-mSATA-SSD-Solid-State-Drive-MZMPA064HMDR-000D1/222720941879?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Adapter: 2.5" Lindy IDE to mSATA Adapter -> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lindy-Ada...070698&hash=item25d3e5eb47:g:JP0AAOSwpP9Y7Mr0
Purchased: November 2017
Price: SSD 38 EUR shipped in Europe and 33,40 EUR Lindy Adapter free shipping in Europe

First post on the upgraded iBook

Seeing these results compared to my PB G4's PATA SSD , I've ordered another Samsung and Lindy adapter for the 2nd PB G4 12" (exact 1.5 Ghz which still has an HDD). Values are 3 x the PATA SSD.

 

[Lastic]

Machine: iBook G4 14" 1.42 Ghz, 1,5 GB RAM
Energy Saving: Highest Processor Performance
SSD: Hynix mSATA SSD 64 GB -> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SK-HYNIX...841626&hash=item41c099cb38:g:1PAAAOSwWxNY0QxM
Adapter: 2.5" Reckforce IDE to mSATA Adapter -> https://www.conrad.com/ce/en/produc...-44-pin-Renkforce-28554C162A?ref=searchDetail
Purchased: December 2017
Price: SSD 70 EUR shipped from UK and 22,99 EUR Reckforce Adapter free shipping in Europe

First post on Big Sister

 

[ziggy29]

Here are some tests I just ran on my Quad G5, the newest toy in my PPC stable. All tests were run in OS 10.5.8 with "Highest" processor performance set in the Energy Saver preference pane. I ran the full suite, noting particularly the disk score and the overall score. Figured I'd see how I compared with other G5 results I've seen earlier in the thread, and see how much of a bump we get from an SSD over a spinner.

First I ran XBench with the drive it's using now, a 1 TB WD 7200 RPM spinner.

The result (HDD only): Disk Test 76.56 / overall 136.63

Next, I borrowed an SSD (OWC Mercury Electra 3G, 120 GB) from my G4 Digital Audio, installed it as the second internal drive in the G5 and ran again, still booting from the HDD but running the disk test on the SSD.

The result (HDD OS / SSD Disk test): Disk Test 279.21 / overall 163.76

Finally, I booted from the SSD and ran everything from the SSD.

The result (SSD only): Disk Test 280.02 / overall 167.51

The last two are probably close enough so as to be statistically identical.

Then I put the SSD back into the G4DA and noted that I need an SSD in the G5.

 

[ziggy29]

The result (HDD only): Disk Test 76.56 / overall 136.63
The result (HDD OS / SSD Disk test): Disk Test 279.21 / overall 163.76
The result (SSD only): Disk Test 280.02 / overall 167.51

.....

Then I put the SSD back into the G4DA and noted that I need an SSD in the G5.

And now it's there. Disk Test 296.53. Would love to see someone crack 300 on a PPC Mac!

 

[LightBulbFun]

heres the same CF card from my post earlier in this thread, but installed in my G4 iBook G3 this time as you can see im hitting the limit of the ATA33 bus in the clamshell (this also proves as @AphoticD also pointed out once and for all the Clamshell has an ATA33 bus rather then the 16MBs ATA bus most people claim the first gen iBook has)

 

[ziggy29]

Would love to see someone crack 300 on a PPC Mac!

And here it is! 301.40!

Rebooted, tried again in Tiger and got 303.52. I think the key was running this right after a fresh reboot, probably fewer junk processes running in the background.

 

[swamprock]

Took my 17" iMac G4 on the road with me for something to do in the hotel room, and finished with my upgrade today. I added 1 gb of RAM and an older Intel 80 gb mSATA SSD with an adapter. Here's the bench:

 

[AphoticD]

Took my 17" iMac G4 on the road with me for something to do in the hotel room, and finished with my upgrade today. I added 1 gb of RAM and an older Intel 80 gb mSATA SSD with an adapter. Here's the bench:

Sweet upgrades. Your iMac G4 "Pro" must be rocketing along now. You should see even better SSD throughput under Tiger.

Is 1.25Ghz the top end of the 7455 CPU? Is there any room to overclock at all? 1.25Ghz would be 7.5x multiplier. I wonder if it would thermally handle an 8.5x PLL (1.42Ghz)...

 

[swamprock]

Sweet upgrades. Your iMac G4 "Pro" must be rocketing along now. You should see even better SSD throughput under Tiger.

Is 1.25Ghz the top end of the 7455 CPU? Is there any room to overclock at all? 1.25Ghz would be 7.5x multiplier. I wonder if it would thermally handle an 8.5x PLL (1.42Ghz)...

I haven't looked into overclocking this machine just yet. It's a beautiful, perfectly working specimen and I'm currently very smitten by it. I can't see why it can't be done, though.

Things are popping a bit faster on the machine, but I think Tiger would be a better fit for it. I'll save that for when I come home tomorrow...

Interestingly enough, the original drive was 7200 rpm. I always thought that Apple used 5400 rpm drives in these earlier iMacs. I know it wasn't replaced (unless by the factory) as the inside of the machine doesn't appear to have ever been touched (or cleaned... ugh) in its lifetime.

EDIT: I stand corrected. From everymac.com:

Standard Storage: 80 GB HDD Std. Storage Speed: 7200 RPM

... iMac G4 "Pro"...

One of dremeljunkie's Hackintosh mods. I really like this one (save for the HP monitor)

 

[swamprock]

Here’s the iMac G4 running Tiger. A little better, and seems a bit faster now:

 

[dbdjre0143]

Machine: PowerBook G4 15" 1.67Ghz DLSD (A1138)
SSD: Toshiba 128 GB mSATA THNSNJ128GMCU (Now out of stock)
IDE/PATA Adapter: Cheap eBay adapter
Purchased: 2017 (has been in use probably about 9 months between the two laptops I've had it in)
Price: US $37.00 for the SSD and ~$10 for the adapter when I bought them

 

[swamprock]

Dual Core 2.0ghz G5 SSD bench:

 

[AphoticD]

SSD for the Mighty Quad.

Machine: Power Mac G5 (11,2) Quad-Core 2.5Ghz (Highest Processor Performance)
SSD: mSATA Kingspec 128GB mini-PCIe - AU$54.74
IDE/PATA Adapter: (N/A) - "Metal External mSATA SSD to 2.5" SATA Convertor Adapter Enclosure Case" - AU$6.78
Purchased: 2018
Price: AU$61.52 total inc shipping to Australia (approx US$44.50)

The benchmark shows SSD performance is identical in the Quad and Dual Core 11,2, Late 2005 G5s.

Also, I didn't think it was possible, but TenFourFox is actually zippy! There is a noticeable speed boost in browsing smoothness between this Quad over the DC.

 

[lostmyshoe123]

iMac G4 with 250GB OWC Mercury Pro Legacy 3.5-inch IDE/ATA Solid-State Drive Kit

 

[ziggy29]

With DLSD 1.67 GHz (A1139) with 250 GB Samsung EVO 860 mSATA SSD with IDE adapter using Marvell chipset: