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I haven't yet seen a killer use-case for multiple camera sensors, but as someone with a signal processing training, I'm certainly intrigued by the possibilities.
 
LOL so true.

I am SO bored of that iphone 6 design, and the camera looks ugly AF, but i will upgrade anyway, because im a sucker to anything thats new and shiny.

Damn you Apple.

If Apple decides to skip the 's' model next year and come out with a more significantly redesigned iPhone 8 next year to mark the tenth anniversary of the iPhone, maybe with mLED and real wireless charging, matching the numerical Galaxy S8, would you upgrade?
 
Since Apple no longer seem to care what their customers actually want maybe we should all start using reverse psychology on Jony -

What I really want from the iPhone 8 is a phone so thin I can mistake it for a credit card, with such a small battery it only lasts for 10 minutes, I'd like the cameras to protrude so much the phone sits at a 45 degree angle when led down for easy viewing from my seating position and last but not least I'd like exactly the same old design language from the last few years because it's comforting to me.
 
Citation needed on this one. Radios were around long before the transistor radio, and weren't something most people just assembled. Honestly, this smells of hyperbole and not really anything of substance.
Well I'm speaking of post-war Germany not anywhere else. When you don't need to build your own radio because cheap Japanese radios are around everywhere the habit dies quickly. Which was kind of my point. Don't you have a dad who can tell you how they used to build and repair stuff themselves in the old days? The first gamers needed to write their own code before they could play. The programs where printed out in magazines. You couldn't get them on floppy disk, you had to copy every line by hand. In the same way cameras started out without a point-and-shoot option, you had to master the skill before you could make a decent photo. Without the necessity this skill is not going to be learned again. Which makes using a DSLR a skill people won't have anymore. Just like being able to service the engine of your own car or fixing problems in your own computer.
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Smartphones are killing off compact cameras, not DSLRs and mirrorless cameras, both of which are seeing increased sales. The "All I need is an iPhone" crowd isn't; and never has been, the interchangeable lens crowd.
The iPhone wasn't around when the PC market boomed. People bought powerful complicated PCs without necessary wanting them to be so powerful and complicated. That's just how it was to own a computer. My guess is the interchangeable lens crowd is much smaller than it appears. Macs are also growing against the trend of the PC market, but not enough to keep pace with iPhones. Developer interest is shifting away from Macs despite them being more powerful than smartphones and the most powerful PCs. The same will happen to DSLRs. Even hobbyists will make it their hobby to find the best phone camera plus camera app combination. People want to make good photos not interchange lenses. This is an option that is going away like upgrading your soldered RAM.
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Right. We decided that months ago. Do they even read our memos?
What if the iPhone 7 camera sits flush and is a single one, while only the 7+ has a protruding dual camera? This would make it the customers choice whether he prefers image quality over asthetics.

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What if the iPhone 7 camera sits flush and is a single one, while only the 7+ has a protruding dual camera? This would make it the customers choice whether he prefers image quality over asthetics.

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Almost, except there's the variable of people who don't want a massive phone but might still like the top features. The iPhone/+ split seems to be heading more and more to the + being the "top" model while the standard version gets lower specs, for the price and history of Apple saying screens were "big enough" I think it's a poor decision.

Unless the 7 is a lot better than the leaks are seeming (more of a "6Si" than a 7 to me) I think I'm finally going to look elsewhere after owning iPhones since the 3G, the competition have caught up and in many ways long since overtaken.
 
And the way those ugly WINGS stick out of Boeing's 777 Dreamliner ... you comment betrays an ignorance to the universal truth of all great design: Form follows function. If there is a "bulge" for the camera it is there to deliver amazing photos and videos. You act like you know better than Apple. You do not. There is a reason for every single design feature, that's why they are incredibly successful and you are a commenter on MacRumors.

:D that's fantastic satire - made me laugh!
 
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Almost, except there's the variable of people who don't want a massive phone but might still like the top features. The iPhone/+ split seems to be heading more and more to the + being the "top" model while the standard version gets lower specs, for the price and history of Apple saying screens were "big enough" I think it's a poor decision.
And what is your proposed alternative, putting the biggest camera in the smallest iPhone leaving no room for anything else? The pro version is always going to be the bigger one. The point is whatever you want the most, you can have it, just not in combination with everything else you want. Is screen size your biggest concern or camera quality. Make up your mind and you will end up with a good compromise for you.
I think I'm finally going to look elsewhere after owning iPhones since the 3G, the competition have caught up and in many ways long since overtaken.
Are they putting big cameras in small phones? That will in return yield funny results for battery life or weight. Other phones will always look better as long as you only look at certain isolated specs. The best overall compromise is never the best in every way. The art of building a computer is about integration which means to make things fit with each other. Bigger more powerful components best fit with bigger devices.
 
No bloody way is that thing going to make it to market. The camera lens looks like the face of that little robot that hovers in the movie Wall-E.

Lol. I can recall the exact same type of opinions about the iPhone 4 when the prototype leaked out.
It is starting to be hilarious, truly.
 
Anyone else miss when there was just one iPhone per release that had all the specs? Yeah, me too.

I sure do. Even when there was just one color; black. But now it appears that Apple is copying Samsung but in a bad way. Last year Samsung flagships (S6, S6 Edge, Note 5 and S6 Edge plus) had similar cpu, display resolution, camera and design language. Primary difference was screen size, S-pen and 4 GB of ram in the bigger models which was understandable.
This year Apple is pushing the 4.7" (or whatever midsize screen) even further from the plus model. The camera alone is evident of that. What other features will Apple gimp on?
 
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I sure do. Even when there was just one color; black. But now it appears that Apple is copying Samsung but in a bad way. Last year Samsung flagships (S6, S6 Edge, Note 5 and S6 Edge plus) had similar cpu, display resolution, camera and design language. Primary difference was screen size, S-pen and 4 GB of ram in the bigger models which was understandable.
This year Apple is pushing the 4.7" (or whatever midsize screen) even further from the plus model. The camera alone is evident of that. What other features will Apple gimp on?

If they do plan on having 3 sizes of iPhone every year then the specs need to match up and let the screen size and maybe storage options be the differences.
 
Well I'm speaking of post-war Germany not anywhere else. When you don't need to build your own radio because cheap Japanese radios are around everywhere the habit dies quickly. Which was kind of my point. Don't you have a dad who can tell you how they used to build and repair stuff themselves in the old days? The first gamers needed to write their own code before they could play. The programs where printed out in magazines. You couldn't get them on floppy disk, you had to copy every line by hand. In the same way cameras started out without a point-and-shoot option, you had to master the skill before you could make a decent photo. Without the necessity this skill is not going to be learned again. Which makes using a DSLR a skill people won't have anymore. Just like being able to service the engine of your own car or fixing problems in your own computer.
[doublepost=1458115204][/doublepost]The iPhone wasn't around when the PC market boomed. People bought powerful complicated PCs without necessary wanting them to be so powerful and complicated. That's just how it was to own a computer. My guess is the interchangeable lens crowd is much smaller than it appears. Macs are also growing against the trend of the PC market, but not enough to keep pace with iPhones. Developer interest is shifting away from Macs despite them being more powerful than smartphones and the most powerful PCs. The same will happen to DSLRs. Even hobbyists will make it their hobby to find the best phone camera plus camera app combination. People want to make good photos not interchange lenses. This is an option that is going away like upgrading your soldered RAM.

You seem to be making the assumption that people buy DSLRs because they are forced to. People buy DSLRs because they either have the money to spend and want something top of the line, they are professionals and need the specs, or are hobbyists who wants the creative flexibility that they offer. People who "just want to take good pictures" were buying point and shoots. Smartphones are going to replace DSLRs for wildlife, landscape, wedding, sports or hobbyists who just want to be creative with their focal lengths, apertures, or exposures.
 
he same will happen to DSLRs. Even hobbyists will make it their hobby to find the best phone camera plus camera app combination. People want to make good photos not interchange lenses

In your wildest dreams. Smartphone cameras are nice, but do not compare to Digital SLRs, or even many good compact cameras. Come back to me when iPhones have good zoom, DSLR sensor sizes, manual controls etc. Hobbyists like myself use DSLRs and high end compact cameras for their superior image quality, better flashes, better low light capability, the ability to easily add more storage cheaply, flexibility, ability to properly zoom, amongst many other things.
 
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That could be real but remember what Tim said. They test a lot of prototypes and this could be just one. Of course this won't make it to final stages, it's fuggly as hell...
 
If Apple decides to skip the 's' model next year and come out with a more significantly redesigned iPhone 8 next year to mark the tenth anniversary of the iPhone, maybe with mLED and real wireless charging, matching the numerical Galaxy S8, would you upgrade?

I feel like that would be too good an update. If they would indeed do that many upgrades on a single iphone, it would be incredible.

They could probably release half those upgrades, and i would buy it tbh..
 
And what is your proposed alternative, putting the biggest camera in the smallest iPhone leaving no room for anything else? The pro version is always going to be the bigger one. The point is whatever you want the most, you can have it, just not in combination with everything else you want. Is screen size your biggest concern or camera quality. Make up your mind and you will end up with a good compromise for you.
Are they putting big cameras in small phones? That will in return yield funny results for battery life or weight. Other phones will always look better as long as you only look at certain isolated specs. The best overall compromise is never the best in every way. The art of building a computer is about integration which means to make things fit with each other. Bigger more powerful components best fit with bigger devices.
Ahm, the galaxy s7 has the same camera as the bigger note series, a bigger battery vs 6s, similar weight to the 6s, similar size to the 6s with a bigger screen. Where exactly is the compromise in the hardware? You seem to suggest that there has to be a compromise with the 6s vs 6s plus when Samsung has shown that is not true.
 
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