Potential First Photo of iPhone 7 Plus Shows Dual-Lens Camera and Smart Connector

[mountain]

Don't like the protruding camera but it is what it is. I'm sure apple will sell bunch of these and people will get accustomed to the look.

 

[Gudi]

You seem to be making the assumption that people buy DSLRs because they are forced to. People who "just want to take good pictures" were buying point and shoots.

Except that most point and shoots don't make good pictures. They make taking pictures easier at barely acceptable image quality. An imaginary Apple point and shoot would also be very easy to use, but twice as expensive as an actual DSLR and it would take the best pictures physically possible. Apple would use technologies like continuous Auto Focus and True Tone flash to create a perfect picture every time with only minor input from the photographer.

That's exactly like iMacs are designed, with using mobile parts in desktop computers Apple is limiting itself on raw hardware performance. Still with optimized software and good unchangeable preferences the machine feels faster and performes better than every Windows PC. In the same way phone pictures should just be awful, but Apple goes all the way to make them look the best they can. The result is a super small device that takes stunning pictures.

 

[silversin]

So, we'll get an iPhone 6ss this year.

 

[1Zach1]

Except that most point and shoots don't make good pictures. They make taking pictures easier at barely acceptable image quality. An imaginary Apple point and shoot would also be very easy to use, but twice as expensive as an actual DSLR and it would take the best pictures physically possible. Apple would use technologies like continuous Auto Focus and True Tone flash to create a perfect picture every time with only minor input from the photographer.

That's exactly like iMacs are designed, with using mobile parts in desktop computers Apple is limiting itself on raw hardware performance. Still with optimized software and good unchangeable preferences the machine feels faster and performes better than every Windows PC. In the same way phone pictures should just be awful, but Apple goes all the way to make them look the best they can. The result is a super small device that takes stunning pictures.

Most point and shoots take as good, if not better pictures than smartphones, while giving the photographer better control. You're right that people who are using those don't care as much about the control and smartphones are perfect for them. That's completely off the point of DSLR users, who want more control of their photography, not less. If you really believe that a smartphone can compete against the features of interchangeable lens cameras there is nothing I can do about that, but you're wrong.

 

[SadBoy Pro]

All this buzz about a phone that doesn't come out until September, and not a peep about MacBooks

Or Mac Pros

 

[Melrose]

If it's true that the single-camera won't protrude and the dual-camera will, then Apple's designers are a bunch of idiots.

.....the single camera already pokes out. Moot point, just saying.

 

[Gudi]

Ahm, the galaxy s7 has the same camera as the bigger note series, a bigger battery vs 6s, similar weight to the 6s, similar size to the 6s with a bigger screen. Where exactly is the compromise in the hardware? You seem to suggest that there has to be a compromise with the 6s vs 6s plus when Samsung has shown that is not true.

There is one trust me, maybe one is a tenth of a millimeter thicker than the other or something. When we compare iPhones to iPhones than the Plus size has more battery life. So there you can steal space from the battery to make room for a bigger dual camera. Bigger devices have more volume to store more demanding components. Do you want me to write down the volume formula?

Of course you can put a dual camera in a smaller phone and the disadvantage will barely be noticeable. But if you also want to offer a flush camera as an option for people who don't care about the absolute best image quality, than that should go in the smaller iPhone, which also should be the cheaper iPhone because you want to sell at different price points, so that people can spend their personal maximum.

All I'm saying is, if once there will be an Apple Watch Pro, it will be the bigger 42mm one.

 

[jmpage2]

nonsense. you're just too new to Apple -- iterative improvement is how they roll. evolutionary. the revolutionary only happens once in a while -- Apple II, Mac, iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad. but the iterative improvements make my 6s way better than my 3G. dur.

Have a look at my join date, Mr. Bright Guy.

 

[Radon87000]

I just removed my Air 2 from my case and imagining that thinness on my iPhone makes me believe it will be hard to hold

 

[FailzJC]

Man That Thing Is UGLIER Than The 6s

 

[Gudi]

That's completely off the point of DSLR users, who want more control of their photography, not less. If you really believe that a smartphone can compete against the features of interchangeable lens cameras there is nothing I can do about that, but you're wrong.

Reasons to choose a PC over a Mac:

- more control of their computer
- much cheaper retail price
- better looking work products (?)

Yes DSLRs give the user more control, but that's hardly the decisive reason people bought them. Linux gives you even more control than Windows and that didn't became the dominant OS despite being free of charge. There is a sweet spot between all the things one could possibly want in a camera and the iPhone is hitting it right now. Do you have a photo library with automatic cloud sync and family photo sharing in your DSLR, no? Do you have Instagram or Tumblr like social media capabilities in your DSLR, no? But you said I would have more control over my photos! The things that made DSLRs desirable in comparison with P&S cameras don't work in competition with smartphone cameras, because smartphones are always connected computers and that's so much more than just a dumb camera.

 

[chugg]

Funny that Samsung went from ripping off Apple designs to designing better looking phones than Apple. At this point, Samsung should stay the hell away from taking any design cues from Apple. It would actually make their phones look worse.

 

[1Zach1]

Yes DSLRs give the user more control, but that's hardly the decisive reason people bought them.

That is actually exactly why people buy them. End of story. All your analogies about Mac and PCs have nothing to do with this, neither does internet connectivity of smartphones or P&S cameras. You don't seem to have any concept of why people buy DSLRs. You can't do with a smartphone what you can do with a DSLR, that's why people buy them.

 

[Infinitewisdom]

I just removed my Air 2 from my case and imagining that thinness on my iPhone makes me believe it will be hard to hold

Why? It's much smaller than your iPad Air 2.

 

[Steve121178]

The pic on page 1 has to either be an early prototype or fake.

 

[pbasmadj]

It truly is so ugly I can barely look at it. This is not just a first reaction, this design is objectively terrible, and will forever be terrible. I truly hope this is not the way they go. The dual camera hump-oval-thing is so beyond hideous, it is just unfathomable. I really doubt and hope this is not what we will see. For the first time ever, I really am not excited about the new phone, have been very happy with my 6s and have no need to upgrade it. And I've never said that before. Also, I have a feeling Apple is losing their magic. The retina Macbook was the first clear surfacing of it. Then that hump case, now this, it's like... what next.

 

[Gudi]

You can't do with a smartphone what you can do with a DSLR, that's why people buy them.

People buy them to put them in a drawer, because ownership gives them the warm feeling of one day being able to become a real photo artist. Pretty much the same reason people by Apple Watches.
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It truly is so ugly I can barely look at it. This is not just a first reaction, this design is objectively terrible, and will forever be terrible. I truly hope this is not the way they go.

Remember what they said about the antenna bands, you won't see them because you will put the phone in a case anyway. But you will know they are there and it will kill you.
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Hobbyists like myself use DSLRs and high end compact cameras for their superior image quality, better flashes, better low light capability, the ability to easily add more storage cheaply, flexibility, ability to properly zoom, amongst many other things.

And how old are you, oldmacs? Try to find a youngster that values the same things in a camera as you. If your hobby has no new blood, it's dying together with DSLRs. Dinosaurs also had superb capabilities.

 

[bpeeps]

No bloody way is that thing going to make it to market. The camera lens looks like the face of that little robot that hovers in the movie Wall-E.

You mean, Wall-E?

 

[pbasmadj]

People buy them to put them in a drawer, because ownership gives them the warm feeling of one day being able to become a real photo artist. Pretty much the same reason people by Apple Watches.
[doublepost=1458141738][/doublepost]Remember what they said about the antenna bands, you won't see them because you will put the phone in a case anyway. But you will know they are there and it will kill you.

Haha. The difference this time, is that the initial reaction is truly, truly bad. With the 6, it was like, ok, I can see where they are going with it nothing bothers me too much, with this, if that phone came out, there is absolutely no way I would purchase it. Not even remotely. Not after a year, not after 5 years, not after any amount of time, would I spend money on the phone that is pictured there.
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I've been a reader for over three years and this is my first comment. When you view the back of a newer iPhone the eye is immediately drawn towards the Apple logo and all is good. The world is in harmony. When looking at this monstrosity the eye is immediately drawn towards an incredibly large and ugly camera lens. Then the eye is drawn towards the smaller Apple logo. This uncomfortably lazy design will pollute the beauty of everything else in the world. Many will cringe at the sight of it like they do when they hear the screams of crying babies on airplanes. It will increase domestic disputes, then more grannies will have their purses snatched, and finally this abomination will lead to all out world war. Now that the devil's work has been revealed, I recommend building underground hideouts and storing seeds.

Truly agree. It is so bad. With previous iterations you get those resistant to the new complaints, but with this one, it is fully, truly, objectively bad with no room for any change on that. The more I think about it, it has to be a hoax. They would have to be so embarrassed to release this.

 

[Carmenia83]

That doesn't even look photoshopped. It looks like it was cut and pasted in MS Paint from Windows 95

 

[Gudi]

You mean, Wall-E?

He means EVE the Extraterrestrial Vegetation Evaluator.

 

[ValO]

Let's wait a little. It is more than 6 months before it will be released.
We have seen a few leeks now, and we know nothing yet.
What about the design /leak with just 1 round camera hole. Where does that fit in?
The mockup with two camera' s, could it just be the iPhone pro, and not the reg iPhone 7 and 7+?
It could be that the reg iPhone 7 and 7+ has a more pleasing design, without humps , and that the 7 pro will have a rougher design, with functionality over design. It could have the latest and greatest hw, but has a more functional and rough design.
We haven' t even seen the front yet, and that is the most important part, you use the front the most. Apple will never release a hideous design for their most important product.
I thought they did when the iPhone 6 was leaked.hated it! But when I saw it in person and held it in my hands, I wanted one, immediately.

And Apple could surprise us with screen sizes, no physical homebutton and different screen sizes .
Hoping to see a 4.7 inch iPhone 7, a 5.2 inch iPhone 7+ And a 5.7 inch iPhone pro, with reduced footprints, bezels and perhaps a 3D Touch homebutton.

I am rather intrigued by the smart connector though. There is something about it that tells me it is a bigger deal than we think right now.
The smart connector together with the removal of the antenna lines from the back and the bulge of the camera, screams for a metal , battery case, that eliminates the bulge completely.
Could Apple be playing with the thought of a more modular and flexible iPhone configurations? Without destroying the look of the iPhone with a case, but rather have a Alu case that complements the look and differentiates configurations? (Battery, storage, waterproofing? , in the future true wireless charging, etc).
Just thinking out loud....

 

[scapegoat81]

No way this is real. Aesthetically, this is ugly as *****

 

[Krevnik]

The first gamers needed to write their own code before they could play. The programs where printed out in magazines. You couldn't get them on floppy disk, you had to copy every line by hand. In the same way cameras started out without a point-and-shoot option, you had to master the skill before you could make a decent photo. Without the necessity this skill is not going to be learned again. Which makes using a DSLR a skill people won't have anymore. Just like being able to service the engine of your own car or fixing problems in your own computer.

I remember those days of computers.

But the thing you keep pushing is this idea of the average person having to learn SLRs. That simply wasn't true. Simple film cameras with fixed lenses (low end rangefinders), Polaroids, disposables. All these existed prior to point and shoots killing them off. Before that, you paid someone to photograph you because the equipment was expensive and fiddly.

And these kinds of photography are going to die with their enabling technology. There will be filters to emulate some of the effects. Instead of using a chemical black and white photo film there will be software to throw away the color information.

I'm not talking about B&W.

This sort of photography is a niche market, but they have no problems getting served. What the average person does with a smartphone, point and shoot, or disposable has zero impact on this niche.

I still remember my Sony Ericsson T630 with 352 x 288 pixel or 0.1 megapixel. It didn't matter that this camera was always with me, I never made a photo with it. The only reason phone cameras became more popular is because they became a whole lot better and are now suited for their tasks.
Only because you started with photography when good smartphone cameras weren't there yet. You are biased to what is familiar to you.

Not biased at all. You don't even respond to my points (or listen to what I do say), really, and make side points instead. I use my smartphone camera frequently. But it does not produce what I consider to be something I would call art. Yet, I have multiple shots that I have produced and processed on my walls from other types of camera. While the iPhone camera is quite good for simple stuff (say, what I would have used a disposable for in the past), the capabilities fall short of what a high-end P&S is capable of today. When you start talking about Sony's APS-C and 35mm sensors, the iPhone is left in the dust. But much like the average person doesn't want a supercomputer, the average person doesn't need the benefits that an interchangable lens camera offers. But that doesn't mean the niche is somehow destroyed.

The argument you have failed to respond to in any way, shape, or form, is this:

DSLRs (and SLRs before them) are primarily a hobbyist / professional tool. The average person did not carry them around in the past, they don't do it now. So in what world does the average person migrating from disposable film cameras, to point and shoots, and then to smartphones have anything to do with the life or death of (D)SLRs when they never used the things? In this case, hobbyist means someone actually interested in learning some of the same skills as a professional, but not doing it as a career. Much in the same way a computer hobbyist does learn how to build/repair computers, and understand why they work the way they do, rather than just spending a lot of time on one. And do you honestly think professionals are ditching DSLRs?

Respond to this, and there's a discussion worth having. What isn't fun is trying to debate with someone who can't seem to grasp that their core premise has a couple holes, and refuses to address them when pointed out, and instad tackles small side topics (and I've removed my responses to those side issues to focus the discussion).

And as a side question, why hasn't the P&S killed the DSLR yet? No futzing with interchangable lenses there, but even that hasn't been able to do it. I wonder why. And what's your experience with cameras? Have you ever touched a DSLR? A film camera? What kinds? I suspect the answer to why you feel the way you do is in that personal experience.

 

[tuxmelvin]

With today's technology, a smartphone can take a great picture of what it sees before it, just as good as a DSLR. But only a DSLR can make a great picture of what it sees before it.