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Potential 'iPhone 8' Render Shows Vertical Camera and Rear Touch ID, But Likely One of Several Designs

rp2011 said:
The very same moment people stop being excited about sexy sports cars or beautiful people...
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A beautiful sports car isn't as heavily reliant on software though. If we're going to do analogies, then it's like getting excited about an updated wheel-base on the latest hatchback. Smartphone hardware is a mature market now - what's still evolving fast is the software.

The odd rounded corner here-and-there isn't going to excite me, but give me a new operating system with loads of cool features, and now you've captivated my attention....
 
ValO said:
What are you tslking about?
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I'm talking about Apple's "Made for iPhone" licensing program. Not all iPhone cases are plain pieces of rubber, many have external battery packs or other features. Cases like this, since they interface with the iPhone hardware, will get certified through Apple's program (and the maker will have to pay a licensing fee for that).

Certifications like these are a product by product decision. If you make a change to a product -- guess what? It's not the same product anymore, it's a different model. So a case maker that has an iPhone 7 case design now finds out "Drat, this new iPhone is pretty much the same as the old model, but it's different because of the camera layout. Our old case wont work on it since it covers the camera." Now they have to make a new case specific for the new iPhone, and get it certified separately. Whereas if Apple had not made the camera change, they might have been able to use their old, already certified design with the new model phone.

ValO said:
They just need to make a hole on the back of the case where the fingerprint sensor is placed.
Only if apple applied it in the apple logo and case manufacturers would use a precise apple logo cutout on the back instead of a round hole, they would be in trouble because of the rights apple has to this specific logo.
Solution, place a round hole.
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If you're talking about cheap Chinese gel-rubber cases, those aren't going to go through certification to start with.
For aesthetic reasons, they would still create a separate model case for the new iPhone. People without the sensor would complain about the "hole in the back of my case for no reason". I don't see anything in your post that really replies to what I'm talking about. You wanna try again?
 
acedout said:
A beautiful sports car isn't as heavily reliant on software though. If we're going to do analogies, then it's like getting excited about an updated wheel-base on the latest hatchback. Smartphone hardware is a mature market now - what's still evolving fast is the software.

The odd rounded corner here-and-there isn't going to excite me, but give me a new operating system with loads of cool features, and now you've captivated my attention....
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yeah, we're all different. And you can't upgrade beautiful people or a sunset, or other beautiful things but people still care about such things and get excited over them and always will.
 
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Has anyone opened their imagination to the possibility that is the new magnetic interface on the back? Maybe it isn't Touch ID after all... just a possibility
 
An even larger problem is that we keep this **** in iphones to come. Because apple doesnt compromise or make mistakes. This is what was intended and the best solution all along....
 
Mad Mac Maniac said:
I think you're being a little too high on Steve. He's a mortal man just like everyone else. It's not like he laid out 5 years of product/design plans and then Apple followed that to a T. Any amount of input Steve gave to a product design 3 years in advance was likely changed so significantly that it would have been mostly unrecognizable to Steve's input. Remember at the time of the 4S release (Steve's death) not only had Steve been spending less and less time at Apple for the prior 2 years, but also they were working full steam ahead on a 4" iphone. 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones were almost certainly not the primary path for the iPhone 6 (I'm sure they had all sizes of prototypes, but I'm saying that was not the likely direction they were foreseeing).

Also, Jony Ive is the design guru. Steve is known for (at times) being good at holding off his blessing if he thinks it's crap, but he wasn't actually doing much of the designing, especially when he was ever weakening.
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You might be right, but how do you know? The article indicates the 8.6mm is actual in increase in thickness vs the 6/7. I wouldn't be opposed to increasing the whole thing to 8.6mm as long as whatever material is grippy enough (at least jet black grippiness) that I wouldn't need to use a case. That's the only reason I use one now. and the camera bump is eliminated with any case anyway...
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Simply because the uncropped version of the image shows the thickness dimensions. But it's understandable to think it's 8.6mm as it appears like the left dimensions are the 7 Plus and the right are the Edition.
 
SeaFox said:
So case manufactures have to redesign their wares and potentially pay another "Made for iPhone" licensing fee if they are cases with additional functionality, of course.
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As silly as this post is... even if that were a factor (it isn't), you should probably know that licensing fees are NOT a one-time "lump sum", they are on a "per unit sold" basis.
Sooooooooooooo...... Apple would get the exact same amount if they sold 5 each of two different cases, or 10 of the same one, or 1 each of ten different ones; why would they care if a case manufacturer changes design?
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ioi said:
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Dear God, that is the laziest, weakest, most unusable fake render I've seen so far!!!
Lol, a VISIBLE home button, smack dab in the middle of the bottom part of the screen?? Gag. Puke. Absolutely NO company would do that.... a knock-off Chinese company wouldn't make an ugly garbage design like that! That is what you're drooling over, hoping to see from Apple?? Can you imagine trying to watch an HDR Netflix show on your gorgeous new 5.8" OLED screen, on your new $1,000+ phone, but it's a bit distracting.... the huge circle divet cutout along the side? Lol.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at first sight this phone looks like the iPhone 7 with a rotated camera protrusion. I had to look closely to the picture to realize that the framing is actually closer to the iPhone 4/5/SE design with a more pronounced bezel detailing, with very faint hints of rounding. Zoom in on it to check it out. It's more like a rendering somebody posted previously. EDIT: this one... https://www.behance.net/gallery/46707925/iPhone-X-concept-(Updated-2017)
Framing and profile fit almost exactly that concept.
And as some had said, it might be a version with either touch ID on the back to cope with "just in case" scenarios, or it's the magnet receiver for the charging system. EDIT 2: It's the magnet charger, that way you can charge the phone and listen to music at the same time. Problem solved.
Again, design is not the 6/7 language.
 
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It's as hideous and uninspired as trying to "tweak" a powerpoint slide without breaking the company theme. Hence, it must be true. It's become a Cook era norm that the uglier the leak, the higher the chance it will represent the end product. Furthermore, I noticed this CAD abomination reposted by Fabien Wanner, an Apple developer, on his Instagram account a couple days ago. You don't need to look as far as Weibo, people. Whenever this guy posts a pre-release image (and he does so with abandon, so much for doubling down on secrecy when your own staff spreads and gloats over leaks), then it's a done deal.

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otternonsense said:
It's as hideous and uninspired as trying to "tweak" a powerpoint slide without breaking the company theme. Hence, it must be true. It's become a Cook era norm that the uglier the leak, the higher the chance it will represent the end product. Furthermore, I noticed this CAD abomination reposted by Fabien Wanner, an Apple developer, on his Instagram account a couple days ago. You don't need to look as far as Weibo, people. Whenever this guy posts a pre-release image (and he does so with abandon, so much for doubling down on secrecy when your own staff spreads and gloats over leaks), then it's a done deal.

Sad.
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It's far from a done deal, for all we know this could be 1 of many prototypes. This is far from a fact, we will see as the months go on and parts start to leak, but no it's not a done deal at all.
 
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Dave245 said:
It's far from a done deal, for all we know this could be 1 of many prototypes. This is far from a fact, we will see as the months go on and parts start to leak, but no it's not a done deal at all.
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You know I would LOVE to agree with you, because I hate this design with a grudge. Experience has shown however that such leaks (esp. when perpetuated by Apple's own) are far from fiction.
 
otternonsense said:
You know I would LOVE to agree with you, because I hate this design with a grudge. Experience has shown however that such leaks (esp. when perpetuated by Apple's own) are far from fiction.
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A lot of leaks turn out to be wrong, so let's not get carried away, we will see when actual leaks start. But nothing is a done deal until Apple get's up on the stages and announces it.
 
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Dave245 said:
A lot of leaks turn out to be wrong, so let's not get carried away, we will see when actual leaks start. But nothing is a done deal until Apple get's up on the stages and announces it.
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Sure, but let me repeat: whenever Fabien Wanner posts/leaks something, it's a serious candidate for the end product.
 
ioi said:
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Really great work, if the final iPhone will look like that, I'm definitely going to buy this. The front looks like the S8, but honestly, if the front contains only the display with a minimum of bezels, all phones will look the same on the front. The back of your concept looks 1000x better than on those leaked photos and the rendered images based on it. And no vertical camera! Nice work
 
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otternonsense said:
Sure, but let me repeat: whenever Fabien Wanner posts/leaks something, it's a serious candidate for the end product.
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That wasn't the issue i was talking about the done deal quote. This guy might be right or he might be wrong, when we hear more from people like Ming-Chi and the very accurate Onleaks along with actual leaked parts. then we will get a more clear picture. I'm not saying this isn't the iPhone 8, in fact i created my own thread asking people what they think if it is, personally i'm not a fan of the whole Touch ID on the back, but then i didn't think i would like the look of the dual lens camera on the back of the iPhone 7 Plus, and i love my 7 Plus it's by far the best smartphone out their.
 
If these leaks are true, then apple will be going back to the metal band look. As you can see, it's flat in the ends, which is a direction away from IPhone 6/7, back to the iPhone 4/5 design language
 
Dave245 said:
It's far from a done deal, for all we know this could be 1 of many prototypes. This is far from a fact, we will see as the months go on and parts start to leak, but no it's not a done deal at all.
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How much different could it look? I'm really not sure what everyone was expecting. Maybe the camera's vertical for a reason, and the ugly antenna lines are gone.
 
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