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Imagine a giant screen on your iPhone ... ;)
 

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This looks like something Tim Cook would approve. The iPhone 5 was the last iPhone design Steve was personally involved in. Even today it is the gold standard in smartphone design.


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everybody was *!=#&) about iphone5 design at the time too. I think iPhone 6-7 designs are wonderful, I love them more than my old 5
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but then again, google pixel already looks like iphone6. we've come full circle
 
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What's your problem with TouchID on the back? I personally find it even better on the back of the phone. I think that the android device manufactures have found a superior solution than Apple. So why shouldn't Apple copy it?

Stop trolling.
 
It's a phototype ladies and gentlemen. All Apple is doing is getting our reaction (MacRumors members) to see what we think. We don't approve. Next ..........
I really doubt apple is letting some fan boys on macrumors, dictate how they should design their billion dollar product line :rolleyes:
 
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Oh ****, totally not enjoying this design! I get the horrid feeling with those dimensions apple have gone for some weird ass 2:1 aspect screen! WHY WHY WHY, 16:9 is universal and most people watch video, I HATE HATE HATE any other aspect ratios and they mess with UI and cut off videos HORRID. I get the feeling I'll be once again bypassing another year until apple learn how to design stuff again. It's like they've had a designectomy the past couple years, almost everything has got uglier and worse. I want to love the direction but I'm just getting cold feet all over the shop right now and this is putting the nail in the coffin of my apple admiration.

With current iphone 7 dimentions, if Apple decides to keep 2 mm top and bottom bezel, length of display will be 134 mm and width about 67 mm. That is your 2:1 or 18:9. If apple wants to keep length at 134mm and have 16:9 aspect, width should be 134*9/16 = 75mm. Not possible....Look at new phones from LG/Samsung..all now use 18:9 aspect ratios for same reason...
 
Why do I get the feeling Apple's holding back their integrated TouchID? I can see it already, put TouchID on the back of the iPhone 8 and call it innovation. "The best screen we've ever made." Then, come the iPhone 8S they'll integrate it into the screen so they have a new feature to justify a new phone. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope this rendering is not the design they ultimately go with, but I could totally see Apple doing this.

There's no more revolutionary innovation with them. They ultimately get to where they want to be, but it's always in stages and takes forever. I've said it before and I'll say it again, having had 3 years to totally redesign the iPhone there better be some real innovation in this upgrade. Otherwise, I'm jumping off the Apple Fanboy wagon. You've got one more shot Apple!

That's pretty much how I feel. I've only ever had iPhones but each of the last few years I've become more and more tempted by Android. It all started when it took Apple 2 years to release a phone w/ a large screen even though the market was clearly going that way. The fingerprint sensor on the back is not a huge deal to me, whatever Android phone I'd switch to is likely to have that. What I am getting tired of is the incremental updates. And going 4 years with basically the same body... Ugh.

Just enough is NOT enough any more.
 
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Imagine a giant screen on your iPhone ... ;)

I sure as heck hope the Touchid won't be on the back (it's dumb that Samsung did it on the Galaxy S8 and it will be dumb if Apple will do it). Should of course be on the front screen; if they can't make the whole front screen available for Touchid then at least the area where the Touchid is now.

I have iPhone 4 and want to buy a new phone after this summer (after my summer job) and after my graduation from college, simply because I want a much larger screen and much larger storage. I have no preference to any os and haven't sunk myself into any os ...and as of now, it doesn't look like I'll buy an Apple phone
 
Ah so EXACTLY like the utterly failed launch of the Apple AirPods then. Oh and I would also say the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus and 5 as they were all incredibly short stocked too.

I bet Apple sold way more AirPods than Nexus phones. Also the AirPods were completely new.

iPhones sell significantly more than Nexus/Pixel phones. To top it off, iPhones ship worldwide in the first day or few days.

Google doesn't sell that many phones and the distribution is a nightmare. You can't buy one and it takes forever to ship worldwide. There's also very few vendors you can buy from at launch.

It's a well known fact that the Nexus/Pixel launches were a fail from a distribution/manufacturing perspective. No where close to the scale of the iPhone.

This is what I mean when I said manufacturing millions of phones is a lot harder than you think. There's no question that Apple has the most sophisticated logistics to manufacture and distribute phones.
 
Consider this, the S8 has an awkward aspect ratio, the screen is super tall. No one creates video in 18:5:9, which means when you watch videos you're still gonna have black bars on the side (Obviously, this only applies to watching videos in landscape, apps will utilize the whole screen in portrait). Have you ever watched an old movie produced in fullscreen on your new widescreen TV and gotten eh black bars? Same concept. The standard is 16:9, which is what all the iPhones have had since the 6, that way you use the whole screen to watch videos. If Apple wants to keep that aspect ratio while getting rid of the top and bottom bezels, they will have to make the phone wider as well.

Personally, this doesn't bother me. I would rather have a wider phone and get to use the entire screen, instead of getting rid of the bezels only to have black bars where they were. Now, putting TouchID, that's another issue...
I may be in the minority here, but I consider the phone to be a little small to watch videos besides a quick youtube video. Usually I grab my tablet or computer if I'm watching anything longer than a minute or so, so aspect ratio isn't a huge issue for me on a phone. I do; however, use my phone one-handed many times a day. My thumb already can't really reach all the way across the screen without drastically switching my grip, so any wider and I'd probably be out of luck with one handed use at all. I have pretty small hands, but so do a lot of phone users.
 
Looks busy, but then is just the solid in CAD, not even a render.

Touch ID on the back though...
Also, disappointed with physical buttons still present. It's time to ditch them.

No thank you. Specific purpose build physical buttons will always have their place in industrial design.
 
What's your problem with TouchID on the back? I personally find it even better on the back of the phone. I think that the android device manufactures have found a superior solution than Apple. So why shouldn't Apple copy it?

It's not revolutionary, and it's not innovative. I could have thought of this, and I'm sure Apple has considered it before, but never went through with it because they didn't think it was a good enough solution. It's also difficult to use and could take some functionality away from it in certain situations. Lastly, it's been rumored that Apple would integrate TouchID under the display (in the same location) for almost two years now, basically since rumors of the iPhone 7 started coming out, so it would kind of be a huge let down. It just feels like Apple pushed the release of a TOTALLY redesigned phone a year to make sure they got it right, only to cop out when they couldn't deliver on Integrated TouchID.
 
is it me .. or the size showing from the CAD file (149.5 mm tall) is almost the same as the iPhone Plus .... But with less top and bottom bezel ...so I guess is more screen size then the current Plus model.
I was sure the iPhone 8 (from the rumors) was supposed to be the size of the 4.7in iPhone but with a bigger screen because of less top and bottom Bezels ...
Does this imply that an iphone 8 and 8Plus is in the works ?
OR ... is the rumor about apple Keeping the two size iphone 7 design with bumped up specs not good and Apple is going with only the iPhone 8 design with 2 sizes ?

What do you mean? It fits almost perfectly in between the sizes of the 7 and 7 Plus:

7: 138,3mm
8 prototype: 149,5mm
7 Plus: 158,2mm

The same size as the 7 was always a crazy dream which only would be possible if they could make a camera behind the screen. Realistically, this is not going to happen.

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I may be in the minority here, but I consider the phone to be a little small to watch videos besides a quick youtube video. Usually I grab my tablet or computer if I'm watching anything longer than a minute or so, so aspect ratio isn't a huge issue for me on a phone. I do; however, use my phone one-handed many times a day. My thumb already can't really reach all the way across the screen without drastically switching my grip, so any wider and I'd probably be out of luck with one handed use at all. I have pretty small hands, but so do a lot of phone users.

I also have very small hands, and one handed use is pretty limited on the 6/7 for me, so making it wider doesn't really affect me too much. I DO, however, watch numerous videos on my train home from work, so a larger screen without the monstrous size of the Plus and an accurate aspect ratio are important to me. There are lot's of people who watch long-duration videos, movies, etc. on their iPhones, and Apple is all about making designs functional, not gimmicky, which is why I HIGHLY doubt they'll ever get rid of 16:9 unless the standard changes.

This is also why TouchID on the back seems so anti-Apple, it goes against everything they stand for. It feels way too gimmicky. Usually, Apple would wait to change the design until they could integrate it under the screen, but I would imagine they're feeling a lot of pressure to make a near bezel-less iPhone, they've been rumored since before the 6 was released.
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What do you mean? It fits almost perfectly in between the sizes of the 7 and 7 Plus:

7: 138,3mm
8 prototype: 149,5mm
7 Plus: 158,2mm

The same size as the 7 was always a crazy dream which only would be possible if they could make a camera behind the screen. Realistically, this is not going to happen.

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Awesome mockups, but I think Apple would have a better design than to take away a physical home button, only to replace it with a virtual one that takes up the same space. I'm sure they'll implement something in the software that'll make a functional virtual home button, while still utilizing most (if not all) of the space the physical one used to occupy.
 
If they were smart they would go back to the iPhone 4 design. The old iPhones are like tanks. Sure the glass may crack, but that stainless steel frame isn't breaking or denting any time soon. Virtual home button and huge screen and this would be clean, sleek, actual competitor to the Galaxy S8. I hate the fact that my 6S dents and scratches up just from a 1 foot drop. I hate aluminum unibodies on phones. Too slippery and too easy to break. Please just go back to stainless steel and glass.

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Provided the sensor is located at or around where the Apple logo is, it won't be an issue. Differently sized hands will hold the phone in different positions. For some reason, the Apple logo location will always be within comfortable reach.

Try as I might, I cannot reach the Apple logo one handed on my iPhone 7, not without tons of shifting.
 
Moving touch id to back side is a major User Interface change for millions of people..I am so used to use my thumb while pressing the touch id to unlock...it will be a painful change to use index finger for touch id on back side..
 
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I love how the author of this couldn't help themselves but slip in the "...with an OLED display..." this has not been backed up with ANY facts or evidence - Apple having ordered many millions of curved OLED displays could be them having ordered Apple watch displays. I do not see OLED for a long time - why would they break from a proven good, perfected display technology? GIGANTIC wishful thinking from outsiders, not gonna happen.
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Samsung and Google called and want their designs back...

They can have them, no one's gonna put up a fight :D
 
I bet Apple sold way more AirPods than Nexus phones. Also the AirPods were completely new.

iPhones sell significantly more than Nexus/Pixel phones. To top it off, iPhones ship worldwide in the first day or few days.

Google doesn't sell that many phones and the distribution is a nightmare. You can't buy one and it takes forever to ship worldwide. There's also very few vendors you can buy from at launch.

It's a well known fact that the Nexus/Pixel launches were a fail from a distribution/manufacturing perspective. No where close to the scale of the iPhone.

This is what I mean when I said manufacturing millions of phones is a lot harder than you think. There's no question that Apple has the most sophisticated logistics to manufacture and distribute phones.

No, you are no attempting to defend your ridiculous logic. AirPods ARE a failed launch because you claim, a device is a failed launch if they are not able to make enough. It's a ridiculous argument to make and it was an obvious poor attempt to have a dig at Google and Android and it failed miserably. Their are no 'well known facts' about it, you've made them up, that's the only fact with this topic.

End of discussion I think now on that one, especially considering I wasn't the one who brought up Google.

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On topic, if this is a real design schematic, the most worrying part is that they even actually considered putting the finger print sensor smack bang in the middle of the back! It needs to be high up so it falls in line with where you finger actually rests. If this is what they are thinking of doing.
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I love how the author of this couldn't help themselves but slip in the "...with an OLED display..." this has not been backed up with ANY facts or evidence - Apple having ordered many millions of curved OLED displays could be them having ordered Apple watch displays. I do not see OLED for a long time - why would they break from a proven good, perfected display technology? GIGANTIC wishful thinking from outsiders, not gonna happen.
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They can have them, no one's gonna put up a fight :D

I would seriously struggle to believe that Apple will believe they'll sell 70 million Apple Watches, they would be announcing its sales from the rooftops if that was the case! Not hiding it's numbers from everyone.
 
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The rear panel of this diagram looks truly awful! I hope its fake, putting Touch ID on the back panel is a cop out and just a very bad idea! Not keen on the vertical camera alignment either.
 
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