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Hate all you want. I have the AirPods and I hate them. I am always adjusting them when on the go. The sound is “ok” at best.

I had the Powerbeats3 and one thing I hated about them was the cord. It would get stuck around my neck and often pull on my headset which would loosen the fit in my ear. Now with this cord-free version, it looks like they solved my problem.

All of you complaining about the size of the case are funny. The only reason I carry my AirPod case is due to them dying or not paring correctly. If I connect to my phone and have triple the battery life of the AirPods why bring the case along with me. Leave it in the car, backpack, at home etc...
 
Remember when the moniker "pro" actually stood for something other than charging customers a questionably premium (see: high) price?
Apple’s “PRO” doesn’t mean “PROFESSIONAL”
I think it stands for “PROvocatively expensive” or “PRICING REASONABLY is OVER”
I may be wrong though

Anyway, I think it’s time for Apple to change the naming scheme. I would recommend the British edition naming.

The expensive version would be, for example “iPad POSH” vs “iPad COMMONER” edition.

You would always see my using “posh” edition, secondhand of course (which got probably wee weed on by a horse, during the golden fox hunt, or something)
 
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How long is Apple going to keep beating this dead horse of low quality over priced headphones.

Hmm. Apple is actually learning from the Beats team, beyond the iTunes Music streaming component. Airpod's is a direct descendent of that learning and engineering with their own skills of course. Try these out before knocking them just based on appearance. Oh wait if you're a millennial you've probably already ignored what I said as appearance is everything before substance = IG.

AirPods are fine a 'walking around' solution for me but I find them far too insecure for any moderate to serious activity. I'd get these if I still used ani Phone and hadn't already found the JLab Epic Air Elites--similar size (both case and ear buds), sweat resistance, even better battery life in case (and case includes it's own charging cable) and a customizable EQ. And best part is $100 less.

^ Never head of these and had to look them up ... not a bad solution and choice I reckon.
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Still you'd miss out on 1 pairing to use with all ... which I'm finding a benefit to using my AirPods (AppleTV 4, MacBook, iPhone, and Apple Watch - with easy switching). More importantly is the 2 external beam forming microphones on EACH bud which should improve upon AirPod's great noise cancelling during calls - which right now in my opinion is beyond yet comparable ONLY to the Jabra Stealth (single headset for calls and UC: Skype on PC).

Jeez, that case is HUGE. I carry my airpods in my pocket all the time. With that thing I'd look like I had a tumor.

Or maybe you'll look like you had a nice plump muffin in your front pocket lol ;) j/k being cheeky no offence.

AirPods are great when you want or don’t mind ambient noise, but other times like on public transport, they are lacking.

If I have to use public transport again for my daily commute in the future, I will buy these PowerBeats instantly, they look stunning. Best Wireless experience (like AirPods) plus noise isolation plus (most likely) much better sound.

^ Spot ON!
Right now my gen1 AirPods (and more than likely the AirPods gen2) cannot deliver good sound performance on public commute on a bus - heck I still heard a bad humb using Beats Studio 3's with the Noise Cancellation function on - and my tiny ears were swallowed up in those. I think Apple needed more time and experience so I'm really looking forward to using these in the gym:
Russian Twists, Deadlifts, upside down crunches/situps, sidebends, and similar exercises where my AirPods will fall out (and they're a pretty good fit for me).

Bonus: I don't have to worry about my ear hair being SUPER noticeable everyday in public anyway since I'll be getting the Powerbeats Pro in black! Just in time for my birthday. My son will get my AirPods (his second) since he has hair to hide his ears lol.
 
These are purely for activity/exercise and I was comparing directly to the size of the Powerbeats Pro and their case. The case lives in my backpack or messenger bag most of the time. AirPods were my walking around earbuds, until i recently switched to Galaxy Buds.

Exactly. I look forward to throwing these in my gym bag.

Hate all you want. I have the AirPods and I hate them. I am always adjusting them when on the go. The sound is “ok” at best.

I had the Powerbeats3 and one thing I hated about them was the cord. It would get stuck around my neck and often pull on my headset which would loosen the fit in my ear. Now with this cord-free version, it looks like they solved my problem.

All of you complaining about the size of the case are funny. The only reason I carry my AirPod case is due to them dying or not paring correctly. If I connect to my phone and have triple the battery life of the AirPods why bring the case along with me. Leave it in the car, backpack, at home etc...

Most folks don't understand that these are activewear headphones made for rigorous exercise. The AirPods are just not secure enough for me when I run or lift weights.

I love the PowerBeats 3, but my wife and I have been sharing a pair since her PowerBeats 2 broke, so I really look forward to picking these up!
 
I'm wondering exactly what controls are available with the buttons - they mention volume, call cancelling and skipping tracks, but what I really want is Play/Pause control (not just putting in and taking out of your ears).

These tick a lot of boxes that I find lacking in the airpods, the only disadvantages are the size of the case, lack of wireless charging and the ear hooks. None of these are really dealbreakers though.
 
Yeah I did that already and an internet search doesn't really tell me or you anything relevant. That info is pretty useless when discussing Bluetooth if it doesn't anchor to commonly understood term. BT 5, BT 4.2, BT 4.0 that's commonly accepted terminology. Class 1 Bluetooth is not a term anchored in consumer facing language. Heck, it's not even common BT terminology in tech circles.

I've seen several videos that reference the PBP's as BT 5. If BT 5 is what Beats marketing means with the Class 1 BT reference, they should have just said BT 5.

You should study up, so you have a clue, and stop blabbing here about what Beats should do. The class of the radio and Protocol version aren't the same thing and they aren't related.

That's why I asked the question in the first place. You should be less rude to people you don't know. If you aren't going to contribute, then please kindly go interact with someone else who can appreciate your type of discourse.

You are not a fun person to read, 69Mustang. I stated in my first reply to to you that "Class-es are independent from Bluetooth version." Above, another person told you the same. My original statement also told you everything you need to know about Bluetooth classes, as in it is just range.
  • You are speaking without knowledge and not heeding the advice of others.
  • You are incorrect that Beats should use only the Bluetooth version when marketing their products as range is independent of the version number.
  • You are also incorrect to state that this uncommon knowledge. When I purchased a Bluetooth speaker/headset/whatever in last several years, the wireless range was always an important factor.
Even if it wasn't written nicely, mjoecups had a point.
 
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I want earphones for walking/running/cardio workouts. But I can only get one set of mobile headphones (I alread have bluetooth Bose QC 35's). Which would suite me more? These or the AirPods? Can you exercise with AirPods?
 
I don't understand why it's taken so long for these ActiveWear ear-hooked earphones to come out. We have various flavours of completely wireless ones without the hooks, yet very few have added the hooks.

I'm a runner. These are what I need. But the price is insane. I've looked at the JLab Epic Air Elites. The case size doesn't bother me (you're carrying running kit around, who cares about the case size?), but there are a few reports of poor bluetooth connectivity. That would infuriate me and it's made me too scared to throw £100 down on them.
 
Hmm. Apple is actually learning from the Beats team, beyond the iTunes Music streaming component. Airpod's is a direct descendent of that learning and engineering with their own skills of course. Try these out before knocking them just based on appearance. Oh wait if you're a millennial you've probably already ignored what I said as appearance is everything before substance = IG.



^ Never head of these and had to look them up ... not a bad solution and choice I reckon.


Still you'd miss out on 1 pairing to use with all ... which I'm finding a benefit to using my AirPods (AppleTV 4, MacBook, iPhone, and Apple Watch - with easy switching). More importantly is the 2 external beam forming microphones on EACH bud which should improve upon AirPod's great noise cancelling during calls - which right now in my opinion is beyond yet comparable ONLY to the Jabra Stealth (single headset for calls and UC: Skype on PC).



Or maybe you'll look like you had a nice plump muffin in your front pocket lol ;) j/k being cheeky no offence.



^ Spot ON!
Right now my gen1 AirPods (and more than likely the AirPods gen2) cannot deliver good sound performance on public commute on a bus - heck I still heard a bad humb using Beats Studio 3's with the Noise Cancellation function on - and my tiny ears were swallowed up in those. I think Apple needed more time and experience so I'm really looking forward to using these in the gym:
Russian Twists, Deadlifts, upside down crunches/situps, sidebends, and similar exercises where my AirPods will fall out (and they're a pretty good fit for me).

Bonus: I don't have to worry about my ear hair being SUPER noticeable everyday in public anyway since I'll be getting the Powerbeats Pro in black! Just in time for my birthday. My son will get my AirPods (his second) since he has hair to hide his ears lol.

Look at the reviews on amazon, I wouldn't buy them.

I hope apple fixes the waterproofing this time around, that is basically the cause of all their negative reviews. Although I have a pair from launch month, with no issues still. I hate the wire though, so definitely thinking about upgrading.
 
Look at the reviews on amazon, I wouldn't buy them.

I hope apple fixes the waterproofing this time around, that is basically the cause of all their negative reviews. Although I have a pair from launch month, with no issues still. I hate the wire though, so definitely thinking about upgrading.

Previous models are of a different engineering than these ones. I'll not base my decision off of an entirely different model with entirely different chipset from a year ago. Thanks for the advice of caution but I'll try them out fully.
 
Apple’s “PRO” doesn’t mean “PROFESSIONAL”
I think it stands for “PROvocatively expensive” or “PRICING REASONABLY is OVER”
I may be wrong though

Anyway, I think it’s time for Apple to change the naming scheme. I would recommend the British edition naming.

The expensive version would be, for example “iPad POSH” vs “iPad COMMONER” edition.

You would always see my using “posh” edition, secondhand of course (which got probably wee weed on by a horse, during the golden fox hunt, or something)


Wow, you are snarky!

I love it, please continue.
 
Wow, you are snarky!

I love it, please continue.

Finally a warm and kind voice of appreciation for a bitter old geezer :)
Which part would you like me to elaborate on? :)

iPad posh would have a leather case from a nobel steed whereas iPad commoner case would be made entirely from a squirrel.
 
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I made a decision to get these over the Galaxy buds when they come out in May...this is perfect for the gym and I can't risk something falling out my ears or losing them....perfect for my lifestyle....will get white.....
 
What I would really love to see either Apple or Beats wireless, open ear / bone conduction headphones. I had a pair of After Shokz wireless bone conduction headphones but I didn't really like the way they fit. I like listening to music while cycling on the road so I don't want to completely block out environmental sounds with in-ear headphones. Today I usually wear a single AirPod but I would really prefer open ear headphones. As much as Apple is into fitness, I would think this would be a good fit in their product line up.
 



Apple's Beats brand in April unveiled the Powerbeats Pro, a redesigned wire-free version of its popular fitness-oriented Powerbeats earbuds. Like the AirPods, Powerbeats Pro come with a dedicated charging case that offers 24 hour battery life and an H1 chip for fast connectivity to your devices and Hey Siri support.

Our Powerbeats Pro guide has all of the details you need to know about Apple's newest earbuds, which are a highly appealing alternative to the AirPods.

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Design and Fit

The Powerbeats Pro feature a design that's similar to prior Powerbeats models, but Apple says they've been entirely overhauled for an ideal wireless fit.

Apple aimed for the best possible fit for most people, testing more than 20 configurations before arriving at the final design. Apple says the Powerbeats Pro use a new "ergonomically angled acoustic housing" that fits comfortably in the concha bowl of the ear.

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Apple designed the Powerbeats Pro to be 23 percent smaller and 17 percent lighter than the previous-generation Powerbeats 3 earbuds.

Like prior Powerbeats models, the Powerbeats Pro feature earhooks that fit over the ears to keep them in place. Apple says the earhook is adjustable, and the Powerbeats themselves can be customized with four sizes of ear tips.

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The Powerbeats Pro are designed to create a tight fit in the ear to isolate sound, and there's no ambient noise mode, which is something to keep in mind.

Powerbeats Pro come with a clamshell-style charging case that's available in black. Like the AirPods charging case, it uses a magnetic closure to keep your Powerbeats Pro safe when not in use.

Sound

According to Apple, sound was its "highest priority" when developing the Powerbeats Pro. The earbuds were reengineered "from the inside out" to add an upgraded linear piston driver that leverages pressurized airflow to create a "powerful acoustic response" in a small package.

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Apple says Powerbeats Pro users will get "incredibly low sound distortion" and "great dynamic range" across the entire frequency curve.

Water Resistance

Apple says the Powerbeats Pro are sweat and water resistant, making them ideal for working out and other fitness activities. Apple told The Verge that the Powerbeats Pro have been engineered to handle "all of your sweat without fail."

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Battery Life

Each Powerbeats Pro earbud features nine hours of listening time, which can be extended to more than 24 hours with the included charging case. At nine hours of listening time, the Powerbeats Pro offer a longer battery life than the AirPods 2.

A Fast Fuel feature lets you get 1.5 hours of music playback after five minutes of charging, and 4.5 hours of playback after 15 minutes of charging.

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The Powerbeats Pro come on when taken out of the charging case and power off when they're placed inside. A motion accelerometer is included to detect when the earbuds are idle, putting them into sleep mode to conserve battery life.

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The charging case itself does not support wireless charging so you will need to charge it up with a Lightning cable through the included Lightning port.

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Physical Buttons

There are physical volume and track controls on each of the Powerbeats Pro earbuds, so you can control volume and skip tracks on the earbuds themselves.

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There's also a button for answering and declining incoming phone calls.

Sensors and H1 Chip

The same H1 chip that's in the second-generation AirPods is in the Powerbeats Pro, allowing for fast connections to your devices and faster switching. The H1 chip also enables "Hey Siri" functionality, allowing for hands-free access to Apple's personal assistant.

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There are optical sensors in the Powerbeats Pro that allow the earbuds to detect when they're in your ears, playing and pausing music appropriately.

Phone Calls

There's a speech-detecting accelerometer in the Powerbeats Pro, along with two beam-forming microphones on each side that are designed to filter out external sound so incoming phone calls sound crisp and clear.

Connectivity

Along with an H1 chip for "Hey Siri" support and quick connections to your devices, the Powerbeats Pro use Class 1 Bluetooth technology for extended range and "exceptional cross-body performance."

As with the AirPods, you can use both Powerbeats Pro earbuds at once or choose to use just one.

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Powerbeats Pro connect to your iPhone or Mac just like AirPods. Simply open the case to prompt a pairing mode, and Powerbeats Pro will pair automatically with any supported devices signed into your iCloud account. This feature requires an iCloud account and macOS 10.14.4, iOS 12.2, and watchOS 5.2 or later.

Compatibility

Full functionality, such as quick device connections and Hey Siri support will require an iOS device, but Apple says the Powerbeats Pro will also work fine with Android devices.

Colors

The AirPods are only available in white, but Apple is making the Powerbeats Pro available in Black, Ivory, Moss, and Navy.

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Price

Powerbeats Pro are priced at $249.95 in the United States, which is $50 more than the AirPods 2 with wireless charging case and $50 more than the wired Powerbeats 3.

Launch Date

Apple plans to launch the Powerbeats Pro in May with the earbuds set to be available from the Apple online store and Apple retail stores.

Powerbeats Pro will launch in the United States and in 20 other countries and regions, including Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, Macau, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the UK.

Powerbeats Pro will expand to additional countries and regions in the summer and fall of 2019.

Guide Feedback

Have questions about the Powerbeats Pro or know of details we've left out? Let us know in the comments or Send us an email here.

Article Link: Powerbeats Pro: Apple's Sporty AirPods Alternative
[doublepost=1555184820][/doublepost]Find my As.! Oh I mean Find My Apple bluetooth device! Remember the W chip Apple put in both Airpod and Powerbeats3 devices. Wonder why there was no provision for the Powerbeats3s to have a location feature? Especially since we get to pay a bit more for the Powerbeats 3 and Pro! Love that these chips are amazing, but wonder why I can't find my Powerbeats3 with Apple's Find My Iphone feature as can Airpod and Airpod 2 owners. Seems that if Apple puts the same components into these devices, it could implement a find feature for all! Perhaps there are some hacks for this out there?
 
I’ll probably get a set of these. AirPods are fine initially but after a few minutes cause intense pain in my ears but the silicon tipped buds I can wear all day. I have always had this issue with hard tipped buds, they just don’t fit my ears. I normally use over ear headphones but they are no use when you get sweaty.
 
«... are designed to create a tight fit in the ear to isolate sound, and there's no ambient noise mode, which is something to keep in mind».
The lack of an ambient noise mode minds: DON’T wear both when running or walking in places open to traffic.
I don’t mind because outside home I plan to wear only one to manage phone calls, but these can be very dangerous.
 
Seems like more was put in to these than the Air Pods 2

I'll eventually get a pair, because AirPods don't fit in my ear. I don't know how people wear them at the gym comfortably.
 
I think some people are missing a point with the pricing. Yes it's expensive, and no the quality is not that good. But they are basically the only brand offering over-the-ear sport earphones with no wires. There are a couple out there (JLab and Plantronics), but both are getting bad ratings for various reasons.

If you have a product that people want (I'd LOVE ear loops with no cable), and you make the only good one, you can basically charge whatever you want for it. And Apple can do that and add the Apple/Beats tax too.
 
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