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I think some people are missing a point with the pricing. Yes it's expensive, and no the quality is not that good. But they are basically the only brand offering over-the-ear sport earphones with no wires. There are a couple out there (JLab and Plantronics), but both are getting bad ratings for various reasons.

If you have a product that people want (I'd LOVE ear loops with no cable), and you make the only good one, you can basically charge whatever you want for it. And Apple can do that and add the Apple/Beats tax too.

Based on what exactly?
 
Based on what most good audio websites and reviewers say about Beats headphones. All base no content.

I'm not exactly revealing industry secrets with that one.

I know the history but wait at least for the release to see how they've done...
 
Here’s a super high tech mega difficult 22nd century challenge for the engineers.

A pair of headphones I can go swimming in!

Jeez, how hard can it be? Given Bluetooth is dodgy in water, all I want is a pair of waterproof headphones with an over ear design which stays in place when swimming and a super short cable to connect to my iPod nano clipped onto my goggles.

Is it so hard?

Any takers?
 
AirPods are fine a 'walking around' solution for me but I find them far too insecure for any moderate to serious activity. I'd get these if I still used ani Phone and hadn't already found the JLab Epic Air Elites--similar size (both case and ear buds), sweat resistance, even better battery life in case (and case includes it's own charging cable) and a customizable EQ. And best part is $100 less.

If you didn't already have some, would you buy the JLab or the Beats? I just purchased the Airpods 2.0 and am going to return due to falling out during heavy activity, not water/sweat proof.
 
If you didn't already have some, would you buy the JLab or the Beats? I just purchased the Airpods 2.0 and am going to return due to falling out during heavy activity, not water/sweat proof.

Likely the Jlabs, primarily based on price ($100 is a steep difference). I'm admittedly no audiophile though and recognize that the JLabs aren't providing the best audio quality but since I primarily listen to audiobooks and podcasts, they work great.
 
I’ll order these on the 3rd, likely receive them on the 10th, then give them a first-hand try out. Yeah, I’ll read reviews too, but I weight reviewer’s comments below personal experience. I need replacement for my dying Bose SoundSport Wireless buds and after all, Apple has a excellent return policy, so there’s no risk.
 
Jeez, that case is HUGE. I carry my airpods in my pocket all the time. With that thing I'd look like I had a tumor.

True. But with nine hours of charge, no charging needs during the course of a day. Of course then they rattle around in your bag or jacket pocket.

I think these are going to sell like crazy and be generally sold out going deep into summer. I got two sets of Beats free with purchase of Macs last year (or was it the year before?) I took the Solos (the big cans) and PowerBeats with the cords (which don't adjust and don't fit me great). So I'm not really in the market for new headphones until my original AirPods give up their charge (I'm down to about an hour of charge at this point.) But I'm definitely going to try these out.
 
An area that I have not seen addressed in any reviews of the Powerbeats Pro...

When I look for headphones for use with my phone, the microphone performance is critical. Ideally I'd like a wireless headset that picks up my voice when I talk softly (minimizing the number of surrounding people who have to listen to my side of the call) but also minimize the surrounding noise for the person on the other end of the call.

I haven't tried AirPods because I'm one of those people where they simply do not stay in my ears unless I keep my head perfectly vertical. :)

How is the performance of the microphone(s)? How do they handle the ambient noise? Do they pick up your voice if you talk softly on a call? Is there a difference if you are using one bud vs both buds?
 
True. But with nine hours of charge, no charging needs during the course of a day. Of course then they rattle around in your bag or jacket pocket.

I think these are going to sell like crazy and be generally sold out going deep into summer. I got two sets of Beats free with purchase of Macs last year (or was it the year before?) I took the Solos (the big cans) and PowerBeats with the cords (which don't adjust and don't fit me great). So I'm not really in the market for new headphones until my original AirPods give up their charge (I'm down to about an hour of charge at this point.) But I'm definitely going to try these out.

Thanks for the reminder! I'll get this together with the new iMac when they launch the back to school promotion :D
 
Thanks for the reminder! I'll get this together with the new iMac when they launch the back to school promotion :D

Good luck. But I doubt these will be included in a promotion this year. I expect them sold out all summer. Damn AirPods are sold out still.
 
Just got mine yesterday & having connection issues. They completely unpair at random. I’m not just saying lose connection I mean completely unpair from my iCloud account. Multiple times. When I open case I have to hold pairing button down like I’m using for a non-Apple device. Had this happen multiple times & it’s very annoying given the price of these. Never had these issues with AirPods.
 
AirPods are fine a 'walking around' solution for me but I find them far too insecure for any moderate to serious activity. I'd get these if I still used ani Phone and hadn't already found the JLab Epic Air Elites--similar size (both case and ear buds), sweat resistance, even better battery life in case (and case includes it's own charging cable) and a customizable EQ. And best part is $100 less.
The new JLabs products definitely are a better buy and it's not even close. I love my airpods but if I lost them I'd probably go with JLabs.
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So I just looked those JLab ones up on amazon. They get truly TERRIBLE reviews. Bluetooth pairing, build quality. All subpar according to people who own them.
They just released a bunch of new products. Are those reviews for their new products?
 
Just got mine yesterday & having connection issues. They completely unpair at random. I’m not just saying lose connection I mean completely unpair from my iCloud account. Multiple times. When I open case I have to hold pairing button down like I’m using for a non-Apple device. Had this happen multiple times & it’s very annoying given the price of these. Never had these issues with AirPods.

Glad you posted this. I had preordered a pair a few minutes after they went on sale at Apple. About 10 days later when I had zero indication of shipping anytime soon, I stumbled across a review that mentioned this exact problem, though everything else they wrote was glowing. I immediately cancelled my order. Too much money for headphones that are supposed to be BT5 and can’t stay connected. Your post confirms I made the right decision.

I am hoping they address the connectivity as I do like the rest of the functionality. Maybe by the time they get it sorted, the moss green will be available!
 
I just picked up a pair at the Apple Store.

I don't remember if the old PowerBeats were like this or not, but I like that the earhooks are adjustable. Before felt like after a while it was painful, now I can wear it a couple hours of workouts without pain on my ears. I normally used AirPods, but sometimes when I use a public gym their background music is so loud unless I up the sound on AirPods to uncomfortable levels I cannot hear my own music. The sound isolation is pretty good and I like that.

It feels a little bit on the expensive side (I really dislike that fact that Apple cheeped out on forgoing a charging brick) and I'm disappointed the charging case doesn't support wireless charging, but overall I am happy with the purchase. I don't seem to have the connection issues.
 
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Apple's Beats brand in April unveiled the Powerbeats Pro, a redesigned wire-free version of its popular fitness-oriented Powerbeats earbuds. Like the AirPods, Powerbeats Pro come with a dedicated charging case that offers 24 hour battery life and an H1 chip for fast connectivity to your devices and Hey Siri support.

Our Powerbeats Pro guide has all of the details you need to know about Apple's newest earbuds, which are a highly appealing alternative to the AirPods.

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Design and Fit

The Powerbeats Pro feature a design that's similar to prior Powerbeats models, but Apple says they've been entirely overhauled for an ideal wireless fit.

Apple aimed for the best possible fit for most people, testing more than 20 configurations before arriving at the final design. Apple says the Powerbeats Pro use a new "ergonomically angled acoustic housing" that fits comfortably in the concha bowl of the ear.

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Apple designed the Powerbeats Pro to be 23 percent smaller and 17 percent lighter than the previous-generation Powerbeats 3 earbuds.

Like prior Powerbeats models, the Powerbeats Pro feature earhooks that fit over the ears to keep them in place. Apple says the earhook is adjustable, and the Powerbeats themselves can be customized with four sizes of ear tips.

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The Powerbeats Pro are designed to create a tight fit in the ear to isolate sound, and there's no ambient noise mode, which is something to keep in mind.

Powerbeats Pro come with a clamshell-style charging case that's available in black. Like the AirPods charging case, it uses a magnetic closure to keep your Powerbeats Pro safe when not in use.

Sound

According to Apple, sound was its "highest priority" when developing the Powerbeats Pro. The earbuds were reengineered "from the inside out" to add an upgraded linear piston driver that leverages pressurized airflow to create a "powerful acoustic response" in a small package.

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Apple says Powerbeats Pro users will get "incredibly low sound distortion" and "great dynamic range" across the entire frequency curve.

Water Resistance

Apple says the Powerbeats Pro are sweat and water resistant, making them ideal for working out and other fitness activities. Apple told The Verge that the Powerbeats Pro have been engineered to handle "all of your sweat without fail."

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Powerbeats Pro have an IPX4 water resistance rating, which means they're certified to hold up to water splashing against the enclosure from any direction, but have the potential to fail when immersed or exposed to jets of water. With an IPX4 rating, the Powerbeats Pro should be able to survive sweat exposure, though heavy rain and immersion should be avoided.

We did a series of water resistance tests and the Powerbeats Pro held up well to splashes of water and 20 minutes of submersion.



Battery Life

Each Powerbeats Pro earbud features nine hours of listening time, which can be extended to more than 24 hours with the included charging case. At nine hours of listening time, the Powerbeats Pro offer a longer battery life than the AirPods 2. Powerbeats Pro provide six hours of talk time, compared to the three hours available via the AirPods.

A Fast Fuel feature lets you get 1.5 hours of music playback after five minutes of charging, and 4.5 hours of playback after 15 minutes of charging.

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The Powerbeats Pro come on when taken out of the charging case and power off when they're placed inside. A motion accelerometer is included to detect when the earbuds are idle, putting them into sleep mode to conserve battery life.

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The charging case itself does not support wireless charging so you will need to charge it up with a Lightning cable through the included Lightning port.

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Physical Buttons

There are physical volume and track controls on each of the Powerbeats Pro earbuds, so you can control volume and skip tracks on the earbuds themselves.

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There's also a button for answering and declining incoming phone calls.

Live Listen

The Powerbeats Pro, like the AirPods, support Live Listen feature for using the earbuds as a directional microphone.

Sensors and H1 Chip

The same H1 chip that's in the second-generation AirPods is in the Powerbeats Pro, allowing for fast connections to your devices and faster switching. The H1 chip also enables "Hey Siri" functionality, allowing for hands-free access to Apple's personal assistant.

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There are optical sensors in the Powerbeats Pro that allow the earbuds to detect when they're in your ears, playing and pausing music appropriately.

Phone Calls

There's a speech-detecting accelerometer in the Powerbeats Pro, along with two beam-forming microphones on each side that are designed to filter out external sound so incoming phone calls sound crisp and clear. In our testing, the Powerbeats Pro sounded great on calls and people had no issues hearing what we were saying, nor were there disconnects or other issues that we ran into.

Connectivity

Along with an H1 chip for "Hey Siri" support and quick connections to your devices, the Powerbeats Pro use Class 1 Bluetooth technology for extended range and "exceptional cross-body performance."

As with the AirPods, you can use both Powerbeats Pro earbuds at once or choose to use just one.

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Powerbeats Pro connect to your iPhone or Mac just like AirPods. Simply open the case to prompt a pairing mode, and Powerbeats Pro will pair automatically with any supported devices signed into your iCloud account. This feature requires an iCloud account and macOS 10.14.4, iOS 12.2, and watchOS 5.2 or later.

Compatibility

Full functionality, such as quick device connections and Hey Siri support will require an iOS device, but Apple says the Powerbeats Pro will also work fine with Android devices.

Colors

The AirPods are only available in white, but Apple is making the Powerbeats Pro available in Black, Ivory, Moss, and Navy. At launch on May 10, only the Black model will be available, with the Ivory, Moss, and Navy colors set to become available this summer.

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Reviews and First Impressions

First impressions and reviews of the Powerbeats Pro have been largely positive, and the new earbuds are getting high praise for their comfort, stability, battery life, and other features.

We tested out the Powerbeats Pro were impressed with the design. The earhooks light weight and comfortable, and are going to keep the Powerbeats Pro firmly in the ear even during vigorous activity. Multiple tips ensure a good fit, and the sound quality is great for earbuds this size. Even glasses wearers should find the Powerbeats Pro to be comfortable.


All of the AirPods features are here, so these function just like AirPods 2, and while the battery life is excellent, there's a downside - the Powerbeats Pro case is large, bulky, and not as pocketable as the AirPods case, nor does it have wireless charging. On the whole, we think the Powerbeats Pro are worth it for anyone looking for the perfect earbuds for an active lifestyle or those who prefer a more traditional earbud fit.

Reviews from other sites have also been overwhelmingly positive, which is no surprise given how well the AirPods have been received and the fact that these match the feature set of the AirPods.

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Pocket-lint highlighted the slimmed down size and weight compared to the previous-generation Powerbeats, and said they're much more comfortable to wear because of the softer angles and contours. The earhook grips the ear but doesn't tug or dig.

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As for audio, Pocket-lint found it to be "genuinely great" for an earphone in the $250 price range. "At the low end, very low bass notes like the kick of a bass drum - or low bass guitar notes - were tight and controlled. Similarly, both treble and baritone vocals were clear and dynamic, while songs with plenty of reverb were given space to expand, without ever feeling like one aspect was giving way to the other."

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Digital Trends wasn't a fan of the larger charging case, but loved the fit of the Powerbeats Pro. Songs were "clear and potent" with bass that "doesn't cloud the upper registers."

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iMore said the Powerbeats Pro are "way more comfortable than AirPods," even after wearing them for five hours straight. Compared to AirPods, the Powerbeats Pro are "massive in size" and while the earhooks are comfortable, they can get caught in longer hair. Sound was clear and "not bass heavy at all," with an overall EQ balance that's impressive.




Additional Reviews: 9to5Mac and PCMag.

Powerbeats Pro How Tos


[*]How to Set Up and Connect Powerbeats Pro Earbuds
[*]How to Use Apple's Live Listen Feature With Powerbeats Pro
[*]How to Use Powerbeats Pro With Android Devices
[*]How to Activate Siri With Your Powerbeats Pro Earbuds
[*]How to Change the Name of Your Powerbeats Pro Earbuds
[*]How to Turn Off Automatic Ear Detection on Your Powerbeats Pro Earbuds
[*]How to Answer and Decline Calls With Powerbeats Pro
[*]How to Have Powerbeats Pro Announce Your Calls
[*]How to Assign the Powerbeats Pro Microphone to Your Left or Right Ear
[*]How to Share One Pair of Powerbeats Pro Earphones With a Friend
[*]How to Check Powerbeats Pro Battery Life on iPhone and Apple Watch
[*]How to Pair Powerbeats Pro to Your Apple Watch
[*]How to Unpair Powerbeats Pro Earphones From iPhone, Apple TV, Apple Watch, or Mac
[*]How to Pair Powerbeats Pro to Your Apple TV

Price

Powerbeats Pro are priced at $249.95 in the United States.

Comparisons

To see a detailed comparison on how the Powerbeats Pro measure up to the second-generation AirPods, make sure to check out our AirPods vs. Powerbeats Pro guide. We've also done a comparison between the Powerbeats 3 and the Powerbeats Pro for those who are thinking of upgrading.

Launch Date

The Powerbeats Pro became available for pre-order in the U.S. and Canada on May 3 and a launch followed on May 10.

Powerbeats Pro became available in the United Kingdom, France, and Germany, on May 31. The earbuds will launch in July in Australia, Singapore, China, Japan, Hong Kong, Korea, Austria, Italy, Spain, Ireland, The Netherlands, Belgium, Russia, Switzerland, Sweden, Mexico, and Brazil.

The other Powerbeats Pro colors will be available in the summer, with current availability limited to the black version.

Guide Feedback

Have questions about the Powerbeats Pro or know of details we've left out? Let us know in the comments or Send us an email here.

Article Link: Powerbeats Pro: Apple's Sporty AirPods Alternative

Really hard to justify 250 when I recently got the Wireleess Powerbeats 3 for $30 on sale ... and the sound is similar reviewers say... maybe I'll grab a pair of these when they hit $30 in a couple of years.. maybe
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Wish Apple would have just gone the extra mile and added a wireless charging case.

Wish Apple would go the extra mile with anything lately
 
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If I can get these for a decent discount i might consider them, as regular Apple earbuds absolutely refuse to stay in my ears, which is why I haven’t bothered with the AirPods. The fact that these have the H1 chip is enticing. But that price in CAD is $300 I’m assuming and that’s about $75 too high for what I would spend on them.

Ya when 'they' complain about "prices" and I'm just in Canada like ...... :oops:
 
So, I bought them. They fit great, except that the sound is thin, unless I push then into my ear, then the sound is remarkably better.

So... Is there a way to lengthen the tube that the ear hole gasket fits onto? Are there longer ear inserts that would make the sound tube go farther into the ear? I did try bending the ear hook to get the active part to stick in my ear hole, but then the case doesn't close.

Any one have any ideas? Are there any after market tweaks for them yet?

Thanks...
 
So... Is there a way to lengthen the tube that the ear hole gasket fits onto? Are there longer ear inserts that would make the sound tube go farther into the ear? I did try bending the ear hook to get the active part to stick in my ear hole, but then the case doesn't close.

Any one have any ideas? Are there any after market tweaks for them yet?

Thanks...

Prior to my PowerBeats Pro, I had a pair of BeatsX. I had purchased some 3-flange tips for those from a third party on Amazon. When I received the "Pros" I tried them and they fit however they went too far into my ears for comfort.

Might be something to try...

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