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PowerBook Edu Discounts

Originally posted by Gaz
I'm no expert but surely if there was going to be an upgrade to the line then the discount would be for everyone and not just the education sec?
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Exactly what I was thinking. 😀 The funny thing is, the ibook is more geared to college students, not the tibook. The tibook is for pros. And yet there is no discounts for the ibook...maybe they can't drop the price any lower.

In regards to people wanting 2 processor powerbooks; yeah the power would be nice but I think I'd prefer a machine that I could actually touch cause it wasn't too hot and that I could use as a portable because the processors didn't eat all the battery life.
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Well, if I wanted a frying pan, I'll buy it. 😉 If you truly want dual processors, buy a stinkin' powermac. No way in h*** that dual processors will become portable. 😀

The most useful additions to a Powerbook would easily have to be a higher resoultion screen (but not to the point that everything becomes too small to read) and probably blue tooth.
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Don't forget about TRUE DDR. Oh yeah, and the superdrive if it ever gets that slim. I would like a higher resolution screen, but too many complain its too small. A better graphics card, is always a nice upgrade. A new processor...we'll see what happens.

Oh yeah, and fix the damn paint.

One more thing...welcome to MacRumors Gaz! 😀
 
I'm wondering would DDR RAM in a PowerBook suffer the same bus issues as the PowerMacs and thus not really give us much more speed?

Also won't DDR RAM send the price through the roof? DDR RAM is typically more expensive than SDRAM and laptop memory is expensive enough already as it is. I would have thought that the majority of the buying public and pros wouldn't want to pay the high price associated with this memory (I mean imagine how much 2GB of DDR RAM for a laptop would cost ), especailly as most people on this forums seem to be buying each new generation of machines (lucky bas*****).

Gaz
 
Dual Processor Laptops

I think the main problem with a dual processor laptop would be the heat dissipation. Having two processors would not be a very large drain on the battery because 1. The processor requires little power compared to other components such as the display and harddrive AND 2. I don't think it would be very difficult to disable one of the processors while running on battery, much like the way we can throddle down the processor while on battery if we want to.
 
Gaz:

Of course DDR in PBook would "suffer the same bus issues" as in the towers and Xserve. Why do people always expect Apple to design a new chipset and Moto to design a new version of the G4? I fully expect that the PBook will get DDR exactly like what is found in the tower and Xserve. I do not forsee any possibility of a DDR-FSB G4 until after Xmas, and even then Moto may not do it because their other customers apparently don't care and because IBM's "G5" is probably going to show up in 2003.

Remember that both Apple and Moto want to get a good long run out of anything they design... Moto will not want to make a G4 that only is useful to Apple for 6 months.

The next thing I'm looking for from Moto is a 130nm version of the G4. They are going to do it eventually because such chips are cheaper to make, run faster, and run cooler. AMD, Intel and IBM are already making 130nm chips in volume... c'mon Moto. Intel is talking about 90nm mid 2003, and they don't joke about that.
 
Accurate Savings?

I may be really dense here, but if the regular price if the "faster" powerbook is 3199, the corresponding edu. price is 2888, and there is a promotional savings of 128, then wouldn't we save $439? What does apple mean when it says "save up to 380...including the promotional savings". If you do this for the ultimate model, you can save up to $522!😱

Maybe I'm just going to an awesome university (university of minnesota btw) that has awesome discounts.

The savings (including back to school promotion)
(educational savings) + (promotional savings) = total savings
Fast -- $243 + $100 = $343 🙂
Faster -- $311 + $128 = $439 😀
Ultimate -- $370 + $152 = $522 😱 😱 😀

So either apple "acceidentally" underestimated the savings, or I'm going to a great school. I'm wondering which?😕
 
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule


true. but it's the end of the rebate that puzzles me... i mean, sept 25 or whatever is pretty late. most schools start well before then. either end of august or early september. some start that late, but it just seems like if they wanted to push it, they'd have pushed it from like july-mid august or something...
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schools that are on the quarter system always start around the 25th of september.
 
Originally posted by Gaz
I'm wondering would DDR RAM in a PowerBook suffer the same bus issues as the PowerMacs and thus not really give us much more speed?
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For now it will. It doesn't seem like apple is going to release any fast FSB anytime soon. I'm disappointed 🙁 but hey, it'll come someday 🙂. All that really matters is when.

Also won't DDR RAM send the price through the roof? DDR RAM is typically more expensive than SDRAM and laptop memory is expensive enough already as it is. I would have thought that the majority of the buying public and pros wouldn't want to pay the high price associated with this memory (I mean imagine how much 2GB of DDR RAM for a laptop would cost ), especailly as most people on this forums seem to be buying each new generation of machines (lucky bas*****).
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Prices on DDR isn't so bad. The best DDR (in my limited knowledge), the ones running at 333 MHz, sell for $149 (512 MB) in a store by my house. Thats very similar to PC133 SODIMMs, considering I found high quality ram (the kind recommended by Apple) for $180, and cheap brands are $120.

For those that will load up with 1 GB sticks, I found DDR2100 (266 MHz) sell for $400 per GB. Thats only if some need 2 GB, which not all of us do. So the prices are fairly good IMO.

side note-even though the powermacs support DDR (even if its a hack), the max you can put in each slot is 512 MB. Why?
 
Originally posted by odenshaw
schools that are on the quarter system always start around the 25th of september.
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Wow! There are schools still on the quarter system! 😀

But hey, when the University of Minnesota was on the quarter system, I still think we started in the beginning September...i'll check to make sure...

I think apple was just trying to cover all the start dates of the schools...some schools start end of august, most beginning of september, and some end of september. I don't see anything wrong with it 😉

The only thing that sucks is all-year schools...but even they "start" sometime in september...

Oh yeah, welcome to MacRumors odenshaw

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Am I becoming the welcomer of newbies? When I grow old, I should work at WalMart😀
 
Wait.

I will purchase a PowerBook WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK!

1) The AppleStore EDU prices have not changed.
2) I did not receive any such email. Can I still get the additional EDU savings?
3) How?

THANKS!🙂
 
Originally posted by ShawnJoyce
Wait.

I will purchase a PowerBook WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK!

1) The AppleStore EDU prices have not changed.
2) I did not receive any such email. Can I still get the additional EDU savings?
3) How?

THANKS!🙂
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You can still save without the email. Its automatically deducted at checkout.

Which school are you going to? Ok, there are two ways to see the promotion. First, on the front page, the right hand side should show "Recommended Systems", "Jaguar", "Go Pro..." and stuff like that. There should be a box that says "Save up to $150 on a Powerbook G4". That should give you the details.
The other way to see it, when you pick the powerbook page, you should see it the three models...fast, faster, and ultimate. Look near the bottom of the spec list, and you should see in red the savings...when you configure your computer, you should see the promotional savings.

It ends 9/25/2002! Hope this helped.

Oh yeah, welcome to MacRumors ShawnJoyce 😀
 
Hey, if you want the e-mail, I can forward mine to ya. The reason some of us get the e-mail is that we register to get news from apple...
 
King's College in northeastern PA!

Thanks for the welcome. I frequent AppleInsider a lot and finally registered for MacRumors when I needed to know more about the current EDU discount.
 
Originally posted by Over Achiever
Exactly what I was thinking. 😀 The funny thing is, the ibook is more geared to college students, not the tibook. The tibook is for pros. And yet there is no discounts for the ibook...maybe they can't drop the price any lower.
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Actually there's a new 14" 700 MHz iBook listed with a CDRom model for $1649 ($1604 Edu) now. Was that there before? I thought it was a price reduction when I first saw it. We'll see.

Plus the eMac has the superdrive now (with a new 800 MHz G4), and the combo drive (with 700 MHz) is now cheaper, but there's no more CD-R/W model unless you're in the Education Store ($50 more seems pretty good for a modem and a 12x combo drive anyway. $999 CD-R/W vs. $1049 Combo + Modem).

The FP iMacs are all back to their old prices (finally).

Don't forget, there were larger price reductions and discounts for awhile in Edu way before the new Towers were released. I don't remember the exact amount, but the Higher-End Towers were discounted an extra hundred or 2 over the regular discount, plus they were eligible for the monitor discounts. I seem to recall the old 800 MHz model said something like -$125 at the bottom or at check out, or both. Someone back me up, it's getting late.

Time to go to bed.
 
Originally posted by solvs
Don't forget, there were larger price reductions and discounts for awhile in Edu way before the new Towers were released. I don't remember the exact amount, but the Higher-End Towers were discounted an extra hundred or 2 over the regular discount, plus they were eligible for the monitor discounts. I seem to recall the old 800 MHz model said something like -$125 at the bottom or at check out, or both. Someone back me up, it's getting late.
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Good morning.

I think the new powermac models qualify for a new crystal clear savings promotion...just checked. Only for education...wow! 😀

http://www.apple.com/education/hed/promos/dualoffer/hed_indiv.html

I'm going to see if I can report this to arn😉
 
Of course they'll be revised

By october, it will have been 6 months since the last update, which was relatively minor. How long can they charge $2500 for a 667 Mhz machine than the iBook can beat in some tasks? It wouldn't surprise me at all to see 800 and 1Ghz and maybe a new video card or version with more VRAM, possibly even a Superdrive.

19 months after it's intro we've only gone from 500 to 800, a speed increase in real world useage of about 40%, not the 100% you'd expect from Moore's law.

If they wait until January, you can bet PowerBook sales will be virtually nonexistant at the end of the year without a massive price cut.
 
Re: Of course they'll be revised

Originally posted by robguz
By october, it will have been 6 months since the last update, which was relatively minor.
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Minor updates depend on the eye of the beholder. Some will say that adding a DVI port, speed bump to 800 MHz, increased screen resolution, and upgraded graphics card to be a minor upgrade, so will not. It does seem likely that there will be a "big" or shall i say "non-minor" update coming in January...it'll be stupidity if apple updated their computers a mere three months before, IMO.

I wouldn't mind if they updated though...'cept that i'm seduced by the savings now, and the fact I'll have a computer for fall semester...tough decisions...tough decisions...🙄
 
I'm waiting for the campus computer guy to email me back concerning my PowerBook purchase. It might be cheaper to buy through the bookstore, but I won't know until I receive his response. I'm incredibly anxious to behold that shining technological masterpiece. Ah. Love at first byte.
 
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