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PowerBook & eMac EOL'd?
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dodonutter said:
Yes, but I don't think that event has enough spectacle for the PBG5 release... plus the timing just isn't right.
kettle said:
Can someone please tell me, or give me an example, of when Apple said to the masses, "There will be no 'x' product released' and then Apple went and released it in several weeks or months?
I am curious if Apple really does this. They have repeatedly stated that the Powerbook G5 is NOT happening soon. I am inclined to believe them unless someone has proof that they have lied in the past.
Now, I don't think that Apple's coming out with a PBG5 any time soon, but for those of you who think Apple missed its best opportunity to hype a new powerbook, I have two words for you:
Superbowl Ad.
Superbowl Ad.
Powerbook EOL?!!! i hope this doesnt turn into another iMac. the PB G5s arent ready yet, but they have run through their production contracts with the PB G4s so there will be no powerbooks until september! i can easily see the e-macs being EOLd. the point of them was a cheap alternerative to the imacs and now the mac mini has taken that over, so i think there is no room for the eMac except maybe back to only education.
dashiel said:
OK, go right ahead and spoil all of our fun!!!
evilernie said:HAHAHA, Apple offer cash back? Good one.
People laughed at, what they thought would be a fact, that Apple would never release a budget priced Mac. Look what happened.
I don't see why everyone's so certain about G5 eMacs. The G4 still has some life left in it, at least in the consumer space. Apple should take the eMacs to 1.5 ghz G4 before switching over to the G5 I imagine. Also, doesn't Apple want to keep some distance between the eMac and iMac? Maybe:
Next week: PowerBook G4 1.67 ghz
Week later: eMc G4 1.42 ghz
Sometime mid-Feb: Power Macs (dual 3.0 ghz)
Then comes iBook G4 1.5 ghz (prolly in March/April),
iMac G5 2.0 ghz (April/May), and Mini G4 1.67 ghz (June).
PowerBooks finally make it to G5 at WWDC (end of June) or Seybold (September); dual-core G5 Power Macs released in August/Sept; eMacs gets yet another G4 update, to 1.67 ghz.
Next week: PowerBook G4 1.67 ghz
Week later: eMc G4 1.42 ghz
Sometime mid-Feb: Power Macs (dual 3.0 ghz)
Then comes iBook G4 1.5 ghz (prolly in March/April),
iMac G5 2.0 ghz (April/May), and Mini G4 1.67 ghz (June).
PowerBooks finally make it to G5 at WWDC (end of June) or Seybold (September); dual-core G5 Power Macs released in August/Sept; eMacs gets yet another G4 update, to 1.67 ghz.
Object-X said:Wow, can I have what you're smoking?
What makes you think it's going to be this amazing marvel of modern machinery that people will read about in history books for generations to come? I'd say there's a better chance IBM toned down the G5 to be in fair competition with the Pentium M spec-wise, and it's just going in a restyled 1" aluminum enclosure.
Occam's Razor, my friend. While I agree you are probably correct in just a modest speed boost, the G5 PowerBook will serve as more of a marketing milestone than an engineering one, watch.
There should be fireworks once Steve finally announces the PowerBook G5.
I would be happy with a speed bumped PB G4 for now, although I'd rather have Tiger shipped with it.
I have the lastest iBook but I'm not sure how it will handle Tiger...not much of a speed difference?
I would be happy with a speed bumped PB G4 for now, although I'd rather have Tiger shipped with it.
I have the lastest iBook but I'm not sure how it will handle Tiger...not much of a speed difference?
shamino said:
Agreed.
Except that I expect a 1.5 GHz G4 in the eMac.
Also the high end PowerBooks will get the Radeon 9700 mobility 128 VRAM as a standard... I hope
As for a possible G5 PowerBook..... well maybe the next WWDC will be the event. The G5 PowerBook release along with Tiger.
Call me when the Rev B G5 Powerbooks are release. No way am I brave enough to be one of the test mice for the Rev A PB.
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now on the UK site the stock PBs are 6-8 days whereas they used to be 24hrs.......
could mean something minor, like widely rumoured speed bump.....but something at least.....
Postal said:
now on the UK site the stock PBs are 6-8 days whereas they used to be 24hrs.......
could mean something minor, like widely rumoured speed bump.....but something at least.....
dashiel said:
I love how people keep pushing back the time frame they expect the G5 PowerBook. Fall of '03 it was...They aren't going to come out with one until at least MW '05. Summer of '04 it was...They aren't going come out with one until Summer of '05. Now people are saying...They aren't going to come out with one until January of '06.
By this summer Apple will have had close to two years of time to develop a G5 PowerBook. Unless IBM is totally clueless I'm betting they are close to production of "something" and I'm betting the migration to the 90nm process has expedited that something and at the same time slowed that something down due to fab issues. This year, hopefully, IBM will get the 90nm process down and can start really cranking out G5 chips. Once a stable yield is happening Ill bet cash the G5 PowerBook will appear. Apple themselves announced that the iMacs werent shipping as fast as they wanted and blamed IBM. Now imagine how much more of a nightmare it would have been for them if they release a G5 PowerBook along with the G5 iMac, alongside the new line of dual processor G5 PowerMacs. Development issues probably comes into play in all of this but Im betting production issues do as well.
Hell, I don't even want a G5 PB, i'll take a G4 with better screen resolution. That's all I want....is that too much to ask for Apple.
cosmic said:There should be fireworks once Steve finally announces the PowerBook G5.
There will be...in many a technogeeks pants.
I think the eMac is going to be killed off completely. Simply because it still uses a CRT and as far as specs are going to its eating into the Mac Mini's market, which isn't a good thing.
As for the Powerbook. I also agree that this will most likely mean speedbumps. However, I'm not ruling out G5 powerbooks completely. It would be logical for apple to intro them at a big event. But it wouldn't be the first time that apple set up a seperate/keynote just to intro a new product. So why not now? I see no reason why it would take another year for them to implement a G5 into the powerbook. I'm sure they've been working on it since the first moment they got their hands on the G5 chips which is quite some time ago now. Development could take long but 2 years seems somewhat excessive.
Just my $0.02
As for the Powerbook. I also agree that this will most likely mean speedbumps. However, I'm not ruling out G5 powerbooks completely. It would be logical for apple to intro them at a big event. But it wouldn't be the first time that apple set up a seperate/keynote just to intro a new product. So why not now? I see no reason why it would take another year for them to implement a G5 into the powerbook. I'm sure they've been working on it since the first moment they got their hands on the G5 chips which is quite some time ago now. Development could take long but 2 years seems somewhat excessive.
Just my $0.02
Only eMac SuperDrive EOL'ed!
Did anyone notice that apparently only the SuperDrive configuration was EOL'ed. So, the Combo config is not yet EOL'ed. Isn't that weird? If it was the other way round, it would make more sense.
Did anyone notice that apparently only the SuperDrive configuration was EOL'ed. So, the Combo config is not yet EOL'ed. Isn't that weird? If it was the other way round, it would make more sense.
FUD
Who said any thing about such technology? Most are just expecting a lower power (Possibly clocked down G5). Also a 64 bit laptop has already been done. It is not new. There are several 64 bit AMD laptops available and you can even run a 64 bit version of Linux on them. Here is one
<http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2464.html>
Sun also used to make a 64 bit laptop running a 64 bit version of Solaris. However I don't think it was very mainstream and I am not sure that they offer it anymore.
I saw one at a technology conference in the SUN booth.
Object-X said:Wow, can I have what you're smoking?
Who said any thing about such technology? Most are just expecting a lower power (Possibly clocked down G5). Also a 64 bit laptop has already been done. It is not new. There are several 64 bit AMD laptops available and you can even run a 64 bit version of Linux on them. Here is one
<http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2464.html>
Sun also used to make a 64 bit laptop running a 64 bit version of Solaris. However I don't think it was very mainstream and I am not sure that they offer it anymore.
I saw one at a technology conference in the SUN booth.
Or... this could mean nothing at all. Like the 10 previous times PowerBooks have been due 'NEXT WEEK'!
I have been waiting for PowerBook updates for MONTHS and this constant guesstimating that 'next Tuesday' will be 'THE ONE' is really getting on my nerves.
Why the hell do I read rumour sites? I just give myself pain.
Floop
P.S. If it is a PowerBook G5, I will simultaneously
a) Be extremely happy
b) Eat my own arse
Please note this will be a new experience for me.
I have been waiting for PowerBook updates for MONTHS and this constant guesstimating that 'next Tuesday' will be 'THE ONE' is really getting on my nerves.
Why the hell do I read rumour sites? I just give myself pain.
Floop
P.S. If it is a PowerBook G5, I will simultaneously
a) Be extremely happy
b) Eat my own arse
Please note this will be a new experience for me.
SiliconAddict said:
You're totally right. I was holding off trying to buy a G5 powerbook for WWDC in 2003 (and ended up getting a G5 tower when it never came out). Now I'm going to law school this fall and hope to get a G5 powerbook by then.
Marlon_JBT said:
Doubt that Apple would allow that to happen again. Remember the reason for the iMac G5 delay was supposed to be due to design issues. Can't believe that Jobs would not hedge bets a little if the PB is going to the G5. If it is a G4 speed bump, then no worries IMO.
