Chip NoVaMac
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Mudbug said:
Good point.
Though has Apple ever gone this long between updates? Other than the issue with the iMac G5?
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Good point.
Though has Apple ever gone this long between updates? Other than the issue with the iMac G5?
IF a PB G5 was available in the next weeks, Jobs would have announced it at MWSF for sure. It would not be the first time he announces a product that does not ship until a month to 6 weeks later.
MPC8641 or even MPC8641D are not due either - they will be in production summer or fall.
So, if we are lucky, the big news could be a 7448 since this chip is expected to be ready in spring. More likely, it is just a speed bump.
MPC8641 or even MPC8641D are not due either - they will be in production summer or fall.
So, if we are lucky, the big news could be a 7448 since this chip is expected to be ready in spring. More likely, it is just a speed bump.
swissmann
macrumors 6502a
roadapple said:
I had the same question. I think that with each upgrade (small and big) they are End of Lifed - because even small upgrades carry a new part number. So my thought are like most others. G4 speedbump now. G5 announced around June and shipping by September. That would give us 8 months between powerbook updates. I also can see the eMac Superdrive model going and the cheaper one staying around for Education.
Floop
macrumors regular
The only other possibility is... a press only event.
MWSF was stuffed to the gills with announcements. Mac mini only got about 6-7 minutes it seemed. Maybe they wanted to showcase the PowerBook G5 at it's own press event. Who knows. Why am I doing this to myself. Too much time on my hands I suppose, even though I'm meant to be doing something else I CANNOT RESIST LOGGING ON
MWSF was stuffed to the gills with announcements. Mac mini only got about 6-7 minutes it seemed. Maybe they wanted to showcase the PowerBook G5 at it's own press event. Who knows. Why am I doing this to myself. Too much time on my hands I suppose, even though I'm meant to be doing something else I CANNOT RESIST LOGGING ON
Nit-picky
Just to be nit-picky I do believe tadpole was the first with a 64-bit laptop many years ago (sun sparc processor running solaris) 😉
Anyway, I'm all game for an update. I've been holding off for 2-3 months now about getting an apple laptop to go along with my powermac g5 and replace my aging brick of a intel laptop. (Whoever thought it was a smart idea to use desktop components to build a laptop should be shot!)
Object-X said:
Just to be nit-picky I do believe tadpole was the first with a 64-bit laptop many years ago (sun sparc processor running solaris) 😉
Anyway, I'm all game for an update. I've been holding off for 2-3 months now about getting an apple laptop to go along with my powermac g5 and replace my aging brick of a intel laptop. (Whoever thought it was a smart idea to use desktop components to build a laptop should be shot!)
Probably not good news...
As others have stated, this is probably the end of the eMac. It's pretty much obsoleted by the Mac Mini. If you want one for your collection, get one now.
As for the PowerBook, there are four possibilities that I see (in order of probability):
1) a minor speed bump (90% likely)
2) a PowerBook drought resulting from manufacturing contracts for the existing lineup expiring before Apple could get the next generation out of the prototype stage (i.e. they're working on it, but it's going more slowly than expected, and we'll have a situation like we did with the iMac because of it) (5 %)
3) a major revision featuring dual core G4s from Freescale and/or less insipid GPUs (5%)
4) a major revision featuring a mobile G5 that IBM has been working on in secret for a couple of years...and monkeys will fly out of my a$$.
Cheers
As others have stated, this is probably the end of the eMac. It's pretty much obsoleted by the Mac Mini. If you want one for your collection, get one now.
As for the PowerBook, there are four possibilities that I see (in order of probability):
1) a minor speed bump (90% likely)
2) a PowerBook drought resulting from manufacturing contracts for the existing lineup expiring before Apple could get the next generation out of the prototype stage (i.e. they're working on it, but it's going more slowly than expected, and we'll have a situation like we did with the iMac because of it) (5 %)
3) a major revision featuring dual core G4s from Freescale and/or less insipid GPUs (5%)
4) a major revision featuring a mobile G5 that IBM has been working on in secret for a couple of years...and monkeys will fly out of my a$$.
Cheers
spercharged69
macrumors 6502a
What's even more disappointing if this is just a G4 speedbump is that Apple is getting even FARTHER behind the PC laptop world.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000170028098/
THAT is one sweet laptop.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000170028098/
THAT is one sweet laptop.
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
crazzyeddie said:
That is not to say that Apple could not do an "Apprentice" style event at the last minute. Though i think it would be too early based on another thread here, a "surprise" commercial during the Super Bowl maybe? <joking>
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
digitalbiker said:
DB there is no way in hell Jobs is going to release a G5 PowerBook without a grand presentation among a crowd. That isn't Jobs's style. It never has been his style. It never will be. Face facts here. This is NOT a minor upgrade. Apple will make as big a deal about this as they did with the iMac upgrade. That and you can bet that Apple is going to redesign the thing from the ground up. New case anyone? Again Jobs would eat his arm off before just slipping this onto apple.com without great fanfare
The PowerBook is being replaced by the PowerBrick, a G5 Mac mini with a 7" LCD attached to the top.
Those minis are really portable...
Those minis are really portable...
Object-X said:
What the hell are you smoking? The AMD Athlon 64-M has been in laptops since practically when the Athlon 64 arrived in desktops. Albeit such machines are the size of small automobiles, generate the heat necessary to melt metal and usually run out of power faster than you can say 'holy benchmarks batman!' but they do exist.
As for the G5 I too stamp my foot on the WWDC, I've contended WWDC '05 since the PowerMacs arrived on the scene, partially due to what I know of the G5 chip and also due to the knowledge that that it'll make mark 2 years since the PowerMac G5 and that's how long it took Apple to get a G4 in a PowerBook. Yes, I'm not certain but if I was to bet good money I'd pick the WWDC, even if the PowerBooks don't actually ship until like August.
Object-X
macrumors 6502a
Liquid cooled marvel
That may very well be true, but this is Apple mind you; and no matter what the reality is, the Jobs distortion field will be in full force with a G5 PB release, my hyperbole not withstanding. Though, even a toned down G5 would still require a lot of clever engineering in an inch thick inclousure. My prediction is liquid cooling.
io_burn said:
That may very well be true, but this is Apple mind you; and no matter what the reality is, the Jobs distortion field will be in full force with a G5 PB release, my hyperbole not withstanding. Though, even a toned down G5 would still require a lot of clever engineering in an inch thick inclousure. My prediction is liquid cooling.
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
mfacey said:
With the Mac mini, I can see the eMac go. Would hate to see it go, but time marches on. Though for the schools an all in one is a safer bet, and easier to purchase and track.
spercharged69
macrumors 6502a
Object-X said:
The IBM T series has consistantly been in an 1 inch enclosure as long as I can remember, and their specs are much more impressive than what the G5 will most likely come with, especially the new T43 series coming in March. (But they don't run OSX 😛 )
Object-X
macrumors 6502a
CTerry said:
OK, everybody just calm down. Step away from the keyboard. You folks are taking me way toooooo seriously. A little hyperbole for humor nothing more. My point was to simply illustrate how Apple will hype this to the nth degree. No one said anything about my fuel cell remark. 🙄
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
2A Batterie said:
Depends on what the resellers are able to say under their contract with Apple. I am waiting to hear from US distributers as to the supply side issues, and that will give us a better idea as to what is happening.
gdprof27 said:
The PowerBooks haven't been updated in a VERY long time. I wouldn't buy one until they're updated.
it says the emac "with superdrive" will be EOL'd, maybe apple will keep the combo/no drive emac avaliable for schools now that the mini is out for the low end switcher market?
dongmin said:
During the last conference call Apple stated that they expected the supply and demand for the 2.5 Ghz PowerMac to reach a balance by the end of the current quarter. This means they still can't produce enough 2.5 Ghz chips. It is therefore unlikely to expect faster 970FX chips before some time, let's say June.
Maybe the 970MP and 970GX scale better, then you could see a jump in the frequency a bit earlier, provided these two chips come out early enough.
geoffism
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I think I've got the jist of it.... none of us know exactly what we are talking about.
I'd love to see a G5. But I beleive the "hoopla" isn't available (and they aren't on the list of current Super Bowl Advertisers - Ad Age Link
I'm so hungry for a new PB, I'd much rather have the speedbumped G4 than a 1st gen G5. Less hassle.
Let's go Steve! Let's go Steve!
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
I think I've got the jist of it.... none of us know exactly what we are talking about.
I'd love to see a G5. But I beleive the "hoopla" isn't available (and they aren't on the list of current Super Bowl Advertisers - Ad Age Link
I'm so hungry for a new PB, I'd much rather have the speedbumped G4 than a 1st gen G5. Less hassle.
Let's go Steve! Let's go Steve!
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
Oh and in other news....
Intel pre-announces Centrino Sonoma 🙁 *insert irked emocicon here*
Slightly off topic but pertainant to the mobile laptop discussion and the need for something new
I would love to see actual benchmarks on the next gen Pentium M chips against the latest and greatest G4 laptops. I think every die-hard Mac fan would have to start polishing up the phrase "But it doesn't run OS X". Because frankly that is the only thing going for the PowerBook line these days.
Honestly at this point G4 Dual core, G5, G3, or G3.14159265~ I don't give a crap as long as it can at least get within a stride or two of AMD's and Intel's mobile chips.
Intel pre-announces Centrino Sonoma 🙁 *insert irked emocicon here*
Slightly off topic but pertainant to the mobile laptop discussion and the need for something new
I would love to see actual benchmarks on the next gen Pentium M chips against the latest and greatest G4 laptops. I think every die-hard Mac fan would have to start polishing up the phrase "But it doesn't run OS X". Because frankly that is the only thing going for the PowerBook line these days.
Honestly at this point G4 Dual core, G5, G3, or G3.14159265~ I don't give a crap as long as it can at least get within a stride or two of AMD's and Intel's mobile chips.
G5 is what everyone is waiting for...hopefully Steve is focusing on getting the G5 in since that is what will sale the best since we are all waiting for it. PB users will be most likely to upgrade if that is the next installment.