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PowerBook G5 - 'Some Time'

HasanDaddy said:
Biki -- should I consider upgrading my 1 ghz PB to a 1.5 ghz one? I wasn't going too, but your analysis has me thinking....?

I recall that BareFeats published an article saying that the G5 1.8 single beat out the G4 1 ghz dual...?
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...so did the 1.6!

At first the G4 Duals where outdoing the single G5's. That's changing. The latest batch of tests show the single G5's coming really close and surpassing the dual G4's. More and more the G5 will become the weapon of choice for most high end audio/video work. That means most Apps will be improved to take advantage of the G5 and it's advantages over the G4.

So while initial tests show the G4 having some strengths, those will start to become obsolete as better G5 awareness is implemented.

CLICK HERE for Barefeats FCP tests in March.
 
Hey..... I hope this means it's not "some time" anymore!

Just yesterday or the day before, I recieved a phone call from Apple regarding a saved order on their store of a 12" PowerBook G4. I had only saved the order for research purposes, not at all expecting a phone call! So, what does this mean?
 
Calebj14 said:
Hey..... I hope this means it's not "some time" anymore!

Just yesterday or the day before, I recieved a phone call from Apple regarding a saved order on their store of a 12" PowerBook G4. I had only saved the order for research purposes, not at all expecting a phone call! So, what does this mean?
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Absoutely nothing...it has barely been 1 month since Powerbook updates occured. There will not be another update for a while (September at the earliest, but I say MWSF 2005).

I haven't read through this whole thread, but please tell me people aren't expecting new PB's a month after they were updated?

Cheers,

James
 
James L said:
Absoutely nothing...it has barely been 1 month since Powerbook updates occured. There will not be another update for a while (September at the earliest, but I say MWSF 2005).

I haven't read through this whole thread, but please tell me people aren't expecting new PB's a month after they were updated?
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Oh, you'd be surprised! You're absolutely right though - the whole G5 PowerBook issue has been debated to death on these forums, and people have to realize that they simply won't be out anytime soon. The amount of re-engineering that would have to go into them, the power/heat issues - well, I'm not going to get into all of it again. (Nevermind the fact that the majority of the people out there don't absolutely NEED a G5 in a PowerBook as they don't even realize how powerful it is...)

There are so many product lines that are due for updates before the PowerBooks - PowerMac revisions, G5 iMacs, new LCDs, 4G iPods, updated iPod minis, hell, even Tiger! I can pretty much guarantee that PowerBook updates are at the bottom of Apple's list right now, not only due to the fact that they were just updated, but the simple fact that if the next PowerBooks update sees G5s, Apple has a LOT of work to do. That being said, I predict PowerBook updates most likely in early 2005 (MWSF '05?) - and if they come any sooner than that, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they were another round of G4 upgrades. ;) :cool:
 
I sincerely thought we'd see the Powerbook G5 at this summer's WWDC

Honestly though, I still think we'd see it no later than Sept --- I'm still holding out for WWDC, but its looking dim at this point
 
IMHO, G5 look very doubtful for WWDC just because of all the engineering reasons as well as delays in chip production from IBM...

HOWEVER...

Apple is a tricky company.

~Shard~ has a good point that we are all expecting everything else to be updated... OSX, iPods, etc etc. But when have we ever been able to predict what apple will release? Hardly ever. Dare I say 'never?'

Apple loves to throw curveballs. That's one of Steve Jobs' games. Lead followers in one direction... then pull out a "boom!" Of course, Apple can't always be 'flash and bam' all the time, but besides the debut of the G5, it's been a pretty stagnant year... a couple apps, minor speed upgrades for G4s... 12 months is a long time to go without an surprise from Apple.

4G iPods is not a surprise. We're all expecting that. They already spilled on Tiger. Releasing at 3GHz G5 wouldn't quite make Apple look like the heros they always try to be.

As unrealistic as it sounds, it looks like there will be two outcomes at WWDC:

1) Apple debuts what everyone is expecting, and we all leave saying, "That WWDC was marginal at best."

2) Apple debuts something extremely phenominal (G5 powerbook) and we leave saying "Now this was worth taking the day off of work to see."

Personally, I'm expecting #1, but leaving a little hope for #2.

-Clive
 
HasanDaddy said:
I still think we'd see it no later than Sept
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i suppose they try getting it out for christmas - powerbook revisions are 8-9 months on average, so if the next rev is a G5, it should be announced in nov-dec.
 
JFreak said:
i suppose they try getting it out for christmas - powerbook revisions are 8-9 months on average, so if the next rev is a G5, it should be announced in nov-dec.
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I'll still stand by my prediction of G5 PowerBooks no earlier than 2005. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I honestly don't think we'll be seeing them for another 7-8 months minimum...
 
~Shard~ said:
I'll still stand by my prediction of G5 PowerBooks no earlier than 2005. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I honestly don't think we'll be seeing them for another 7-8 months minimum...
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I hope your right. After all my dramas and waiting if a G5PB appeared in less than a month at WWDC I would be pretty pissed. But beign pretty pissed is where I am already at... :mad: ;)
 
~Shard~ said:
That being said, I predict PowerBook updates most likely in early 2005 (MWSF '05?) - and if they come any sooner than that, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they were another round of G4 upgrades. ;) :cool:
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I couldn't agree more. We'll know if the current line up is the last or only the second last G4 revision by November. If the PB G5 is still way off in November, Apple will probably release a new Rev. D for the holiday season. If November passes without an update, PB G5 at MWSF will become a real possibility.
 
~Shard~ said:
Yah, I feel for you man - having a nice new 17" arrive DOA is not cool. :( Any idea at all when you'll be getting a new one?
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I am hoping to find that out this weekend or monday at the latest.
 
HasanDaddy said:
I sincerely thought we'd see the Powerbook G5 at this summer's WWDC

Honestly though, I still think we'd see it no later than Sept --- I'm still holding out for WWDC, but its looking dim at this point
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I really think that January will be the earliest we'll see them. Apple will probably let this revision be the last G4 revision before they up to the G5 PowerBooks.
 
NNO-Stephen said:
I really think that January will be the earliest we'll see them. Apple will probably let this revision be the last G4 revision before they up to the G5 PowerBooks.
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As I've stated before in previous posts, I agree with this prediction - G5 PowerBooks no earlier than 2005. Prove me wrong Apple! ;) :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
I don't think you have anything to worry about aswticher... ;)

As for those 20" Dual Processor 1.5 GHz PowerBooks Apple is about to release next Tuesday for $2000 though... :cool:
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Oh man, I only wish... I'd buy one as soon as I cleared my debt, which would put me in position to snap up a refurb around December. That would rule... Merry Christmas to me! :cool:
 
thatwendigo said:
Oh man, I only wish... I'd buy one as soon as I cleared my debt, which would put me in position to snap up a refurb around December. That would rule... Merry Christmas to me! :cool:
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Don't hold your breath, my friend. ;) :cool:

It will be interesting to see what kind of Christmas presents Santa Jobs gives us though this year... :)
 
I'm going to collect my new toy in Hong Kong on Tuesday or threabouts.

The excitement of the new arrival is tapered by fear of non-uniform LCD illumination and the horror at having to transfer all my settings and data from one machine to the next.
 
The Need for Speed... and maybe some heat?

This is one of those strange factors we all have to live with. It is pretty unconscionable to say that what's out: 1. Can never be topped; and 2. Never needs to be topped. If we all believed that, we'd still be using 68040s. Or, for those of you who are Battlestar Galactica fans, in the immortal words of Starbuck, "If we were all realists, we'd all be dead back on Caprica."

Ok, that's a bit of a reach perhaps, even for Sci-Fi buffs... :)

Anyhow, my own relationship with technology is paradoxical. I understand and appreciate more and more firepower, but Macs (heck, even PCs) have long since passed any hurdles or challenges I'll ever come up with to put them through.

But that doesn't give me license to rain on others' parades. Besides, much of this comes from competition. Apple has a bad enough time when it appears to be static. God help them if they actually became static.

In this business, complacency = death.

BTW, the faster the system, the hotter it gets. Is it so wise to proceed down the same path the PC notebooks have instead of redesigning it?

Mike
 
nice to wish

I agree with what has been said regarding PB G5 for the first quarter of 2005. This will be a nice revision to keep momentum going after the holiday season. I will guess mid Feb 2005.

Despite the recent speed bump in the PB line, I think there is reason to believe they will push the G4 to 2.0 GHz in the 17" and also add a dual layered 2x superdrive. Prices back to $2999.

As for WWDC I think the big news will be with iPod.

I am hoping for a dual 3.0 GHz PowerMac. I think it could happen. Announce now -- begin shipping around September.
 
mcfudd said:
As for WWDC I think the big news will be with iPod.
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I hope and somewhat expect there to be news pertaining to the iPod at WWDC, however I hope that it is not the major news of the event - it would be a bit of a disappointment if iPod news was the highlight of the show in my opinion.

mcfudd said:
I am hoping for a dual 3.0 GHz PowerMac. I think it could happen. Announce now -- begin shipping around September.
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The 3 GHz PowerMacs are a possibility, however I doubt they would do the old "shipping in 3 months routine" - at least I hope not, as many people would be displeased with having to wait yet another few months for their PowerMac updates when it has already been a year. If the advancement to the 3 GHz was a little slow, then perhaps Apple will have no option but to announce shipping dates which are months in the future, but normally, from what I recall, introductions of Rev B machines usually end up shipping right away - it is only the Rev A introductions that have the long shipping times. (I could be wrong on this though.)
 
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