~Shard~ said:
I also hope they don't do this, but more than likely there will be a wait since it's bleeding edge technology. (if it happens)
They could also redo somethings and call it "all new", which excuses the delay in their perspective.
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I also hope they don't do this, but more than likely there will be a wait since it's bleeding edge technology. (if it happens)
They could also redo somethings and call it "all new", which excuses the delay in their perspective.
neonart said:
Vert true, but let's hope it doesn't happen. Hmm, for starters, let's hope that 3 GHz PowerMacs are announced @ WWDC in the first place!
iPod the new reality
The sad truth is that iPods are bringing-home-the-bacon for Apple. I think Jobs is going to be very, very agressive in this area to keep competition at bay.
iPods may not steal the show at WWDC, but they will be a big part of it.
The sad truth is that iPods are bringing-home-the-bacon for Apple. I think Jobs is going to be very, very agressive in this area to keep competition at bay.
iPods may not steal the show at WWDC, but they will be a big part of it.
mcfudd said:
If Apple had Dual 3Ghz machines THAT would most certainly bring home ALOT of bacon!
mcfudd said:
This is getting to be a tired old saw already, and it's not even true... Apple's Q2 results show that the PowerPC far outsripped both software and iPod sales, even with the explosive growth of the music player in year-over-year sales. In simple terms, the "bacon" you're talking about was less than a fifth of the total computer sales, despite also selling 100,000 more units.
thatwendigo said:
thatwendigo is right - the sheer sales numbers do not lie. (And once again, he beat me to the punch in pointing it out... damn, and I had the latest results on my machine and was browsing them just a few days ago...)
One thing that does get to me is the regular "We're announcing this great new thing that's wonderful, oh but it won't really be out for another 3 months."
It makes me feel like Homer Simpson... D'Oh!
Mike
It makes me feel like Homer Simpson... D'Oh!
Mike
oink, oink
I am glad that PowerPC sales are doing well. But shareholders are thrilled about the iPod sales. Apple sees it as a permanent revenue stream -- enough to create a new division.
Regardless of what you and I think, this is going to be a MAJOR part of Apple's strategy from now on.
Also, remember the deal with HP to sell iPods under their brand. We should take another look at numbers once that deal kicks in (Q3 or Q4). Another issue to keep in mind are the thousands of iPod minis that should have been sold had there been any in stock.
Additionally, what is the ROI for iPods versus PowerPCs. In other words, which is more profitable for Apple? When I refer to "bringing-home-the-bacon," I mean which product is doing more for the bottom line??? --- not just which is generating the most gross revenue or which product sells the most units.
Profit margin, turning inventory quickly, cash flow required for a product, etc. is what determines which product is the most important to a company. I think must be doing something for Apple's bottom line ---- hence the shareholders glee.
thatwendigo said:
I am glad that PowerPC sales are doing well. But shareholders are thrilled about the iPod sales. Apple sees it as a permanent revenue stream -- enough to create a new division.
Regardless of what you and I think, this is going to be a MAJOR part of Apple's strategy from now on.
Also, remember the deal with HP to sell iPods under their brand. We should take another look at numbers once that deal kicks in (Q3 or Q4). Another issue to keep in mind are the thousands of iPod minis that should have been sold had there been any in stock.
Additionally, what is the ROI for iPods versus PowerPCs. In other words, which is more profitable for Apple? When I refer to "bringing-home-the-bacon," I mean which product is doing more for the bottom line??? --- not just which is generating the most gross revenue or which product sells the most units.
Profit margin, turning inventory quickly, cash flow required for a product, etc. is what determines which product is the most important to a company. I think must be doing something for Apple's bottom line ---- hence the shareholders glee.
I would say that if Apple releases new Power Mac G5 revisions prior to WWDC, it could mean (gasp) a PowerBook G5, or more likely, a completely new iMac.
wide said:I'd get pissed off if they released a new PowerBook at WWDC because then it would be outdated and obsolete by the time I will have enough money to buy it. Take you time, Apple
There is absolutely no way there will be additional PowerBook updates at WWDC - the product line was just updated, Apple wouldn't announce yet another update so soon (think of all the poeple who have just bought "new" PowerBooks, some of which haven't even shipped yet!), and most importantly, Apple has far more updates to announce that are long over due, as in PowerMacs, G5 iMacs, new displyas, etc.
So no need to worry - there will not be any PowerBook updates at WWDC, nor no G5 PowerBooks specifically until 2005.
I don't think Apple will revamp the line...I think they will add a model, probably a 17-inch that has a G5 in it. And I bet it will sell in the 17-inch PowerBook G4's former price of $3,299. The current 17" has dropped to $2,799 from $3,299 in the last couple of months.
DHagan4755 said:
Tough to say. One on hand, with all the engineering Apple will have to do to get that server-class chip inside a small little PowerBook, I think they may want to introduce G5s to the entire line to actually make it worth while, for all the hard work, re-engineering and headaches that were no doubt caused as a result of this endeavour. On the other hand though, perhaps due to the respective sizes of the PowerBook models, perhaps the only way they are able to shoehorn a G5 into one of them is to do it in the 17", which perhaps will be able to handle it a bit better - I don't know if this would be the case though...
Like I've said before, I guess we'll just have to wait until 2005 to find out!
carbon fiber
if apple chooses to make carbon fiber pb g5's they wouldnt be the first to do so. sony's next laptop is one heck of a computer. .38-.83 inches thick depending on config, 1.73 lbs, still has a centrino chip and 512mb of ram...a piece of engineering. this is what the 12"pb is competing against not against some huge 15" screen dell that weighs 11lbs. that's up to the 15" and 17".
if apple chooses to make carbon fiber pb g5's they wouldnt be the first to do so. sony's next laptop is one heck of a computer. .38-.83 inches thick depending on config, 1.73 lbs, still has a centrino chip and 512mb of ram...a piece of engineering.
this is what the 12"pb is competing against not against some huge 15" screen dell that weighs 11lbs. that's up to the 15" and 17".thatwendigo said:
The ipod is aproximately "10 times" cheaper than a Power PC. So that severely limits the issue of "total dollars" or "bacon". To add to this, ipod's have a much higher profit margin than the PowerPC line, so even if it's a fifth of total sales in the gross sales category, it's not the same case in the net profit category.
So to a big extent, the iPod and iTunes making a lot of money for Apple IS TRUE.
Look at net, not gross.