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PowerBooks in the Pipeline?

Speaking with a person from apple tech support about G5 chip when discussing powerbooks, he strongly felt that the g5 will not see powerbooks for a while due to the heat it gives off and some other tech. talk he was speaking which I did not understand.
Yet all I want to know is if tommorow I am gettin a new 17 inch powerbook or keeping the one i bought on thursday>?
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
Your Dell is most likely, at the least, 2lbs heavier than the TiBook.
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The Dell is actually only 5.9 lbs. (That is with the CD-ROM removed and one battery). That is the only way I carry it and its still heavy. I'm not sure how much the power supply weighs but I take that along too.

The Ti-Book with power supply feels like a pound less than the Dell. The 12" PB I was playing with at the Apple Store felt signifiantly lighter (no power supply).

I think I am going to wait and see what happens this week and then buy. If there are no updates then I am going with a 12". If the 12" PB is not updated and the 15" get a 1.X G4 with USB 2.0 then it's going to be a tough call...
 
Originally posted by AllenPSU
The Dell is actually only 5.9 lbs. (That is with the CD-ROM removed and one battery). That is the only way I carry it and its still heavy. I'm not sure how much the power supply weighs but I take that along too.

The Ti-Book with power supply feels like a pound less than the Dell. The 12" PB I was playing with at the Apple Store felt signifiantly lighter (no power supply).

I think I am going to wait and see what happens this week and then buy. If there are no updates then I am going with a 12". If the 12" PB is not updated and the 15" get a 1.X G4 with USB 2.0 then it's going to be a tough call...
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Yes, but that is with the drive removed...the drive is heavy...and the apple power supplies are light...a great advantage...however, your dell isn't that bad...weight wise...it must be an older one?

The 12" is nice, and tiny. It is no problem to carry around. I will get a 15" pBook in Feb 2004...to go with my 12" pBook.
 
Originally posted by Lori
...and we think if this happened [G5 in a PowerBook], the computer might spontaneously combust. A ton of ppl have said that heat wouldn't be an issue, the g5 could run cool, but I personally doubt that...just my opinion, though, maybe Apple will disprove me just to spite me? I bet a ton of us sure hope so! ;)
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IBM seems to think the G5 can run cool. I'm not sure how far along they are in their process, but you could cool the chip significantly by lowering is speed.

You would need to see the Power/Heat relationships with CPU speed to see if you can make it work.
 
I ordered a 15" on Saturday (please no mock me, I need it before I leave), and I was talking to an Apple sales guy on the phone today. I was asking him about shipping times, and he said my order was nearing assembly (it was a BTO) on between the 21st and 25th. assuming that new pbooks come out tomorrow, is it logical to think that Apple would not assemble and ship the old tibook to me AFTER a newer product is announced? i sure hope not. . .
 
Originally posted by kwajo.com
I ordered a 15" on Saturday (please no mock me, I need it before I leave), and I was talking to an Apple sales guy on the phone today. I was asking him about shipping times, and he said my order was nearing assembly (it was a BTO) on between the 21st and 25th. assuming that new pbooks come out tomorrow, is it logical to think that Apple would not assemble and ship the old tibook to me AFTER a newer product is announced? i sure hope not. . .
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If the new models cost more, I think that Apple may just find some older stock rather than give you the new model for the old price. I wish you good luck though!
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
your dell isn't that bad...weight wise...it must be an older one?
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Be carefull with the "your" part of that. I would hate someone reading this to think I actually bought the thing. I would never spend good money on a windows laptop!!! :)

As for its age, they replaced my old one about a month ago with this thing so it cannot be too old. It has a 2.0 GHz P4 (Or so the sticker says). It is fast but its picky. You can upset it by looking at it wrong. Comparing the three different ones I've had in the last year, its the fastest but the most unstable. The Panasonic Toughbook was the best of the bunch.

Still I would take a 800Mhz iBook over all of them.
 
Pray for an upgrade!

Originally posted by kwajo.com
I ordered a 15" on Saturday ... is it logical to think that Apple would not assemble and ship the old tibook to me AFTER a newer product is announced? i sure hope not. . .
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I've heard of apple going both ways. I will pray that you get lucky and get the new machine.

If Apple drops the price before it ships, they have typically lowered the price on unshipped models. That would be kind of a compromise for you though.
 
Heat

I'm new to the powerbooks (and mac's for that matter). I was wondering if the heat of the 12 inch powerbook is an isssue? Do they overheat easily?
 
Hey, i think that this is all lies, i have been hearing this type of rumor since feb. Apple will wait until jan 2004 i think, then they will have put the G5 chip in.
Ahol19
 
Originally posted by Lori
I think I can definitely agree with that. One of my friends and I were talking about this yesterday and we think if this happened, the computer might spontaneously combust. A ton of ppl have said that heat wouldn't be an issue, the g5 could run cool, but I personally doubt that...just my opinion, though, maybe Apple will disprove me just to spite me? I bet a ton of us sure hope so! ;)
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why do you think the G5 is any hotter then the G4? the nine case fans? again, those are very slow moving fans to cool it while keeping it quiet, 1 or 2 fans would do just fine, but it would be as loud as any pc.......
 
Originally posted by rufwork
We wait until later == What did Apple really lose? A month or two (or three?) of interest on that money?
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This is a little simplistic. It ignores the network (economic, not computer) effects of Apple being able to report higher per-month sales. Each additional unit sold increases the future (near-term) likelihood of additional sales.
 
I'm thinking that they'd run hotter because of the size differences. It's not based on the amount of fans. But if you put a processor that powerful (even if it is a scaled down version) and then have things still like an L3 cache (cuz, dammit, even the 12" better have that w/a g5), then it just makes sense to me that things are gonna get pretty toasty.
 
It's going to be a G4 Powerbook...

It's going to be a G4 Powerbook...


10.2.7 for all non-G5 systems is called 'blackrider'.

10.2.7 for all G5 systems is called 'smeagol' .

According to the Think Secret article the new Powerbooks will be loaded with 'blackrider'.
 
Originally posted by Lori
and then have things still like an L3 cache (cuz, dammit, even the 12" better have that w/a g5)
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Not even the Power Mac G5 has an L3 cache. The L3 cache was one of those things Apple included simply because the G4 was so slow it needed an L3 cache to be useful at all. So it's not as necessary with the G5 (especially since the G5 has such a nice, fast bus!)
 
Originally posted by Lori
I'm thinking that they'd run hotter because of the size differences. It's not based on the amount of fans. But if you put a processor that powerful (even if it is a scaled down version) and then have things still like an L3 cache (cuz, dammit, even the 12" better have that w/a g5), then it just makes sense to me that things are gonna get pretty toasty.
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power has little to do with heat, they got the G4 in the powerbooks just fine with no heat problems(well, maybe a little on the 12) so they will have no problems with the G5, assuming that the G5 runs hotter because its more powerful, or because the powermac has 9 fans is a little uninformed, i'll say it again, those fans aren't there because the G5 is an oven, they are there in place of having 1 big loud fan
 
Originally posted by plinkoman
power has little to do with heat, they got the G4 in the powerbooks just fine with no heat problems(well, maybe a little on the 12) so they will have no problems with the G5, assuming that the G5 runs hotter because its more powerful, or because the powermac has 9 fans is a little uninformed, i'll say it again, those fans aren't there because the G5 is an oven, they are there in place of having 1 big loud fan
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It took them over a year to put the G4 in the PowerBooks. And at that point they used the low-power 7410, not the original 7400.
 
Originally posted by Lori
Woops...I hadn't noticed that. But hey, I can still dream about that cuz that would indeed make them go really fast, wouldn't it? :p
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a G5 doesn't need L3 Cache, it would actually just get in the way and probably make it go slower. The Connection is more direct then what a G4 has.
 
Originally posted by agentmouthwash
a G5 doesn't need L3 Cache, it would actually just get in the way and probably make it go slower. The Connection is more direct then what a G4 has.
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Wow, the g5 in a powerbook idea just keeps seeming better and better after this lttl discussion...hehe. Though, with or without heat problems, I still don't see them coming out with it within the next month...even as a surprise.
 
does anyone know what time they update the apple page if the power book were to come out tomorrow (tuesday). Its 1230 AM here and i want to know if i should stay awake to check :)
 
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