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Well, it's actually a .25 GHz boost, not .25 MHz...much bigger ;) But I think I speak for everyone when I say one of those rumored PPC 9900 at around 25-30 GHz would be slightly less disappointing. :D Personally, I figured it would be 1.33 GHz at least, so 1.25 GHz is a let down, along with *still* a 1x DVD...come on, if the drives can do 2x, then why not ship with 2x? Same with all ports on one side, it seems just too cramped that way, and an nVidia is disappointing, especially if it's still a 440 Go...if it has to be a nVidia, I'd hope at least for an FX 5600 Go to give us a newer tech chip than the already disappointing 420/440 Go.
 
If it were not for the 8 months, I think that .25 would be OK. Considering the time frame I think at least .33 would be in order. I was in wireless for years and Motorola was always thinking inside the box! Until we can get away from Moto, things are going to be SLOOOOW!
 
Originally posted by evolu
why the hardware specific OS? What's new that justifies special software optimization?

Smeagol is Jaguar optimized for the G5.
Blackrider is Jaguar optimized for ?

Uh.... Sauron?
 
Re: switch! :)

Originally posted by kterzino
hi everyone! i am going to be buying my very first mac soon...i found this board and have become addicted! :) i am super excited about the possibility of the updates. do you have any idea what is going to happen to the prices of the current powerbooks? will they drop? and since the powerbooks are getting updated, this means that the current configurations will no longer be produced, correct? sorry if i sound stupid, i don't know much about the system like everyone else does! :) also, how long do you think it will take for the new ones to get to stores? i found out that my school has a deal with apple and other companies, and they are selling the current 17 in for $2799! i almost bought it until i found this site. but if the updates aren't that significant, i might still just get the 17 for that price.

I also am new to mac and just bought my first, i got the 17 inch powerbook for school and love it
GET IT
 
Originally posted by XForge
Uh.... Sauron?

Pretty amazing...until I saw this, the word "blackrider" didn't even register with me. Nice. :)

Anyway, yeah...if Moto can't keep up, it'll be nice to be rid of them, at least for the powerbooks.
 
Re: G5!

Originally posted by aasmund
I think if there are new powerbooks, they will be G5's. Apple will want to make the first 64bit laptop. However i think it is unlikely that the 12" will have a G5.

There is already a 64-bit laptop. Actually, two companies make them and have been for a few years now.
 
"ThinkSecret article updated with info about the 12" PowerBooks, which should arrive after the 15"/17" updates."
 
Originally posted by arn
"ThinkSecret article updated with info about the 12" PowerBooks, which should arrive after the 15"/17" updates."

I think Apple is making a mistake if they delay the 12" announcement. I can understand it not being ready, but they should _announce_ all three at the same time and let us start ordering.
 
Why not Dual in the 17"?

No one in this forum, or anywhere else, has suggested that the 17" could get dual processors. I think a bump to 1.25 or 1.33 in the 17" is not going to be significant enough to set it apart from the 15" or the 12" (asside from the screen of course). In addition, dual G4 processors in the 17" would not threaten the new G5 offerings too much.

A 17" with dual 1GHz would make me cream in my pants! Here's hoping!
 
Re: Why not Dual in the 17"?

Originally posted by MacWorks
No one in this forum, or anywhere else, has suggested that the 17" could get dual processors. I think a bump to 1.25 or 1.33 in the 17" is not going to be significant enough to set it apart from the 15" or the 12" (asside from the screen of course). In addition, dual G4 processors in the 17" would not threaten the new G5 offerings too much.

A 17" with dual 1GHz would make me cream in my pants! Here's hoping!

This possibility was raised in last week's thread (on Macrumors) concerning new PowerBook introductions. It was pretty much dismissed but I suspect that it would be technically possible with the new MPC7457 from Motorola.

However, I think it is very unlikely given the engineering resources that a dual-G4 PowerBook would require. Since it seems likely that we will have G5-based PowerBooks within the next 4 to 6 months.
 
Re: Updates

Thank goodness...

Originally posted by carboy
I spoke with a great Apple source on Saturday and this is what he told me:
17 in EOL

15 and 17 updates by the end of the week-They have a meeting on Thursday

17 to include USB2 (one port) and only 1.25 Mhz-Don't know about price-2999?? No 2x on the DVD

15 to naturally pick up AL with backlit keys and USB2 port-I think that the 15 was going to be 1.25 as well...-bluetooth

12 up to 1ghz-NO size change-common sense!

New monitors in the works for the G5-could be in the same release...

No word on the bluetooth mouse/keyboard....

Panther looking good for September-Doubt that Powerbooks will ship with it..

That's all I know!!

WOO HOO!

Insert *very* happy Sondy here. =D

/me does a victory dance
 
Re: Why not Dual in the 17"?

Originally posted by MacWorks
No one in this forum, or anywhere else, has suggested that the 17" could get dual processors. I think a bump to 1.25 or 1.33 in the 17" is not going to be significant enough to set it apart from the 15" or the 12" (asside from the screen of course). In addition, dual G4 processors in the 17" would not threaten the new G5 offerings too much.

A 17" with dual 1GHz would make me cream in my pants! Here's hoping!

umm, the 17" isn't supposed to be set apart in any other way then the screen. the 3 pb models are not in order of power, just screen size, one isn't meant to be more powerful then the other....
if only they would update the 15" and give the 12" some L3 cache....
 
First, If I hear one more person talking about how they actually think it might be a pb G5, i might go completely nuts. Not....any....time....soon. okay, sorry, had to vent. Now that we have the unpleasantries out of the way, Help me out. What's the track record for thinksecrets. I assume it's nothing like macOSrumors, but tell me how they usually are (i'm fairly new at this). Like many others, my updated Al15" is my graduation present and needed for college. Sometime this week better be TOMORROW (Damn i'm excited 8Þ). Not to mention, in addition to graduation it is now my birthday present as well. Come on Jobs, make it worth it!
 
Re: Re: Why not Dual in the 17"?

Originally posted by plinkoman
umm, the 17" isn't supposed to be set apart in any other way then the screen. the 3 pb models are not in order of power, just screen size, one isn't meant to be more powerful then the other....
if only they would update the 15" and give the 12" some L3 cache....

yeah I agree. Everybody here seems to think the 17" HAS to be the most powerful out the 3.
 
Originally posted by NoPrideELF
What's the track record for thinksecrets.

Thinksecret is right 100 percent of the time. All you need is macrumors.com and thinksecret.com and you have all the mac rumors you want.
 
Well, if screen size was the only difference between the 12" and 15", you might be right. But you're wrong. Serious audio & video professionals are increasingly looking to the increasingly powerful PowerBooks. Steve has already stated that Apple see's a move away from desktops. To make the top-end powerbook dual processor is the next logical step.

Regarding G5's in PowerBooks: I think 6 months is darn hopeful if you ask me. I give it atleast 9 to 14 months. G5's likely run hotter and require more power. The G4 is going to be around for a while. iBooks are still using G3's -- remember?
 
I'm beginning to doubt anything will be announced tomorrow...

Seems like they wouldn't want to put something on the page that would dwarf the "G5's now shipping" announcement.

But if they did, I'd be nothing short of pleased :)
 
Originally posted by MacWorks
Regarding G5's in PowerBooks: I think 6 months is darn hopeful if you ask me. I give it atleast 9 to 14 months. G5's likely run hotter and require more power. The G4 is going to be around for a while. iBooks are still using G3's -- remember?

the G5 isn't necesarily as hot as you think, the reason behind the nine fans was to keep it cool while keeping it quiet, i'm sure 1 big and loud fan could have done the job just fine
 
Originally posted by MacWorks
G5's likely run hotter and require more power.

Not according to the specs IBM released.

Originally posted by MacWorks
The G4 is going to be around for a while.

Which is too bad if it turns out to be true. And I have to agree that it certainly is looking that way.

Originally posted by MacWorks
iBooks are still using G3's -- remember?

Which is REALLY too bad.
 
How accurate is that blog? I really hope not very, because the 1.25 ghz is disapointing, and it would be terribly stupid for apple to start basing performance on screen size. If its not 1.33 ghz, I will be pissed.
 
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