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PowerBooks on Feb 2nd?

This Mac Forums Thing Rocks

Hey guys I wanted to thank you all soo much for the help you have been throughout my purchase of my Pbook 1.25 system. I think it is an amazing thing that we all love the mac soo much that we are all so willing to talk each other through stuff and help each other make the best decisions in our mac lives. I mean where the heck is the PC people's forums that they are all so together as a family. I am sorry if this seems korny in some way but holy **** man... I can almost swear that when I used to use PC I did not spend all this time chatting with fellow PC users about our machines.... and I say machines cause that is all a PC is... Our lives are obviously not about machines like those PC people....my fellow mac lovers our lives are about our frame of mind being large enough to understand that we don't need to rely on societies little way of manipulating us into thinking that we should all be accepting that a machine we use to work on should be buggy and corrupt like the PC is. We have all stepped up to the next realm in the thought process and discovered we have a riight to be able to work with a system that just...well....works all the time...as well as looks good and for many reasons...brings us joy.

The truth is I have known hundreds of PC users who have never felt...joy using their machine...nor did they feel pure love for the platform they were using. I have only known you all for just a little while...and i can already see how much you all love the systems you use and the platform thhat you work with....this is an amazing thing that APPLE has given us don't you think?

Anyways enough of my APPLE ranting and back to the 7200RPM drive upgrade discussion. HAHHAHAHHAA

SO... I am opting to get a apple tech at my local store to swap out my stock 4200RPM drive for the 7200RPM we have been talking about as I do Pro Tools recording almost every day as well have both MacromediaMX2004 suite and Adobe CS on all the time as I do web design quite extesively. Do you think there will be much more of a heat or more importantly SOUND problem with the 7200? I dont want to get it all installed to find out it is too noisey to do my recordings. I love how quite my 1.25 is now and I don't mind if it gets a little louder but not too loud.

HAHAHAHHA i always have the long letters for you....wonder who reads them hahahah.

ciao
Jon Raven
 
Re: This Mac Forums Thing Rocks

Originally posted by JonRaven
SO... I am opting to get a apple tech at my local store to swap out my stock 4200RPM drive for the 7200RPM we have been talking about as I do Pro Tools recording almost every day as well have both MacromediaMX2004 suite and Adobe CS on all the time as I do web design quite extesively.

Do you think there will be much more of a heat or more importantly SOUND problem with the 7200? I dont want to get it all installed to find out it is too noisey to do my recordings. I love how quite my 1.25 is now and I don't mind if it gets a little louder but not too loud.
Jon Raven
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An Hitachi/IBM 7200rpm 60GB should run very smooth and quiet compared to a stock Toshiba. Go for it.
 
PROBLEM

I am having an issue with my new pbook 1.25...

With the power adapter plugged in...I am getting these little fizzy sounds when I roll over the dock and any interactive object....but the fizzing stops when I unplug the cord...it is fine on the battery.....anyone have any idea what that is...and if it is just I need a new power adapter or is this sort of thing serious?

PLEASE HELP!
 
Its killing me waiting for the new Powerbook g5s.

It is too bad that the first 64 powerbooks that are out are not Apples.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1069301995506&skuId=6249703&type=product

Not bad for $1250, plus they even have a DVD burner version for $100 more.

The downside is that it is 7.5 lbs. and 1.5" thick, but the upside is that it has a much faster processor, a 15.4" screen, and costs half the price of the comparable Apple.

C'Mon Apple do something....
 
hmmm. sounds like grounding issue.

1.try wall points around the house, if the problem still exists

2. if it still exists then try wallpoints elsewhere than your house.

3. if it exists on power points in other places then the power adaptor has issue otherwise either the perticular point in the house has grounding issue or the whole house (depending where the problem exists.)
 
Re: 7200RPM drive in a Powerbook 1.25?

Originally posted by JonRaven

Has anyone heard what the new 7200RPM drives are like in the powerbooks?
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Yep, I bought one for my TiBook 667 and it feels like a new machine, plus I put the old drive into an inexpensive external firewire case and it works great. Definitely one of the better upgrades. Subjectively, I do notice a very minor increase in noise and maybe a little vibration. Of course I wasn't paying attention to what it was like before I swapped the new drive in so it's difficult to be objective. And of course the TiBook is outside warranty so I did the install myself, not too much drama, just a lot of patience required. I installed the drive to tide me over until the G5 PB is available and I'll definitely be taking the 7200 with me (installed by a qualified service engineer obviously).
 
wow thanks for the quick reply.

when I unplug the adapter I no longer have any problems...other then battery drain...of course.

I called some repair places and they all said it sounded like a logic board issue....but then again when I unplug the adapter it works perfectly fine....so I dont know if the logic booard would continue to mess up the system if it is no longer plugged in do you? Also...if I get a good surge protector/power bar...do you think there is a chance it might fix my problems if it is a ground problem? Cause this is an old house.

Hope to hear more soon.
 
Originally posted by fradac
hmmm. sounds like grounding issue.

1.try wall points around the house, if the problem still exists

2. if it still exists then try wallpoints elsewhere than your house.

3. if it exists on power points in other places then the power adaptor has issue otherwise either the perticular point in the house has grounding issue or the whole house (depending where the problem exists.)
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My power adapter only has 2 pins, i.e. there is no earth. I think this excludes grounding as an issue (qualification: I am not an electrician). Might just be a feature, I sometimes notice a noise when I'm accessing the network using the airport and I remember an old work laptop would crackle quite loudly when accessing the LAN.
 
Re: PROBLEM

Originally posted by JonRaven
I am having an issue with my new pbook 1.25...
With the power adapter plugged in...I am getting these little fizzy sounds when I roll over the dock and any interactive object....but the fizzing stops when I unplug the cord...
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Jon, do you have an Apple Retail Store near you?
If so, take it in with the Power Adapter.
Try their power supply on the wall with YOUR Adapter.
Try it with one of THEIR Adapters.

Something's got to give. A good Battery Backup cleans the current between you and the wall, so if it's your house wiring/current, that could be a solution, check out COSTCO. It's also good for plugging in your external monitor and even your stereo system. READ the Backup's warnings and directions, avoid extension cords and power strips plugged into it.

Let us know what you find out.

The strangest things happen to you, Jon.
Did you dump some girl who was really a witch and now she's put a spell on you?
Or, your old house could be haunted?
You can get free Holy Water at any Catholic or Episcopal church.

"Exorcism of OS X kills kernel panic and strange noises that go bump in the night?"
:eek:

Otherwise, how's the 15". I'm green with envy. :rolleyes:
 
Re: wow thanks for the quick reply.

Originally posted by JonRaven
when I unplug the adapter I no longer have any problems...other then battery drain...of course.

I called some repair places and they all said it sounded like a logic board issue....but then again when I unplug the adapter it works perfectly fine....so I dont know if the logic booard would continue to mess up the system if it is no longer plugged in do you? Also...if I get a good surge protector/power bar...do you think there is a chance it might fix my problems if it is a ground problem? Cause this is an old house.

Hope to hear more soon.
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Yep its the grounding/earthing problem. It is experienced by many TiBook users including myself and the buzzing sound could be heard over the phone as the telephone lines are affected too. In fact the buzzing over the phone stops when I switch-off the AC mains and not just by unplugging from the Powerbook. Don't think its logic board problem as most of our Tibooks are fine other than this issue. The Albook are supposed to be better but I guess the problem is not completely solved yet.
 
Originally posted by Dave the Great
Its killing me waiting for the new Powerbook g5s.

It is too bad that the first 64 powerbooks that are out are not Apples.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1069301995506&skuId=6249703&type=product

Not bad for $1250, plus they even have a DVD burner version for $100 more.

The downside is that it is 7.5 lbs. and 1.5" thick, but the upside is that it has a much faster processor, a 15.4" screen, and costs half the price of the comparable Apple.

C'Mon Apple do something....
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Have you tried using that machine? I believe it only if you have tried it out.
 
Re: This Mac Forums Thing Rocks

Jon, I absolutely agree about the community spirit of Mac users. I don't know how many of you were into computers back before the IBM PC was really a "standard" - but today's Mac community reminds me a lot of those days, when all the Commodore guys stuck together, the Atari guys stuck together, the TRS-80 guys stuck together, etc.

That was the "golden age" of computers for me. Since then, computing has become more of a routine, a way to earn money (I work in the computer field), and sometimes even drudgery. Most of the excitement and pure fun/joy faded when almost everyone standardized on one platform (PC/Windows).

Getting into the world of the Mac with OS X over the last year has made everything fun and new for me again.

(I purchased a PBook 1.25Ghz myself, by the way - and use it along with my dual 2.0Ghz G5 tower.) I really doubt any extra noise made by a faster HD in your PBook will be enough to cause new problems for your audio recording needs. Every laptop drive I've heard in the last couple years has been incredibly quiet.

I think I'm going to wait until they get a 7200RPM laptop drive out with an 80GB+ capacity, and then have one of them put in my PBook. The biggest 7200RPM drive I can find right now is 60GB, and I need capacity more than speed, all things considered.


Originally posted by JonRaven
Hey guys I wanted to thank you all soo much for the help you have been throughout my purchase of my Pbook 1.25 system. I think it is an amazing thing that we all love the mac soo much that we are all so willing to talk each other through stuff and help each other make the best decisions in our mac lives. I mean where the heck is the PC people's forums that they are all so together as a family.
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64-bit laptops at Best Buy

Trust me... there are other downsides, too. That thing is made by eMachines, for starters. If you've ever worked with their desktop computers before, you'll know they're designed to be purely a bargain-basement PC. They use the very cheapest components they can get ahold of, and customer service after the sale is nearly non-existant.

Apple really has nothing to worry about with machines like this, unless they suddenly decide to change their entire marketing strategy - and start competing strictly on price.

(This, IMHO, is much like the situation with the new iPods. Everyone threw a fit that the "minis" weren't priced at the $100 or under price-point to compete with all the cheapie MP3 players. But that isn't the type of product Apple wants their name on! The iPod mini competes quite fairly in price with other players of the same level of quality and containing similar features - such as the Samsung Napster.)

I'd be disappointed in any Apple product using the build-quality and having the level of customer service that comes with an eMachines PC.


Originally posted by Dave the Great
Its killing me waiting for the new Powerbook g5s.

It is too bad that the first 64 powerbooks that are out are not Apples.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1069301995506&skuId=6249703&type=product

Not bad for $1250, plus they even have a DVD burner version for $100 more.

The downside is that it is 7.5 lbs. and 1.5" thick, but the upside is that it has a much faster processor, a 15.4" screen, and costs half the price of the comparable Apple.

C'Mon Apple do something....
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HAHHAHAHA My luck...yeah...what luck! hahahha

Well I guess it is hard to have bad luck when I don't have any at all....but I do hope that this hissing sound is just what you guys are talking about and some sort of old house power current problem that means my new pbook is just fine and just may need a good backup power UPC system like one of you had mentioned...or even possibly just a good quality power/surge bar that cost like $30 and will fix the problem. I would really...and i mean...REALLY hate to send this pbook back now that I finally got it. I have all my needed apps installed and ready to go and my two 512 ram chips are due by courior tommorrow morning to give me my gig of ram I wanted. Anyone in need of some 256 chips hehehhe.


I think I tooo will wait a bit for the 7200 rpm drive till they get them to the 80 gig point as I want space and speed hehehhehehe! I seem like I am greedy for the best but I have gone without soo much the last 5 years that I just want something nice this time ...you know? My old Pismo G3 400 was nice...but this 1.25 pbook should rock in comparison!

Cheers to you all and hey... yet another day without APPLE acknowleging their bday, What happened with the press release where SJ said tommorrow is going to be huge for apple...was he talking about tommorrow as a figuative "tomorrow" as in the future? whatever your doing Apple I am sure we will all praise you when you finally decide to step up to the plate and tell us. HAHAHAHAHA.

Peace My fellow mac lovers
 
By the Way...forgot to mention...

Hey...MacRAND

No I didn't dump a girlfriend to deserve this...but I have often wondered why all the bad luck in my life....and frankly if I even began to tell you what has happened in my life ...you probably wouldn't believe me! hahahha...but thanks for careing buddy!

Oh hey...I always have wondered if this house is haunted though....coincidence? I think not! Good for the songwriting I bet though!
 
Re: 64-bit laptops at Best Buy

Originally posted by kingtj
Trust me... there are other downsides, too. That thing is made by eMachines, for starters. If you've ever worked with their desktop computers before, you'll know they're designed to be purely a bargain-basement PC. They use the very cheapest components they can get ahold of, and customer service after the sale is nearly non-existant.

Apple really has nothing to worry about with machines like this, unless they suddenly decide to change their entire marketing strategy - and start competing strictly on price.

(This, IMHO, is much like the situation with the new iPods. Everyone threw a fit that the "minis" weren't priced at the $100 or under price-point to compete with all the cheapie MP3 players. But that isn't the type of product Apple wants their name on! The iPod mini competes quite fairly in price with other players of the same level of quality and containing similar features - such as the Samsung Napster.)

I'd be disappointed in any Apple product using the build-quality and having the level of customer service that comes with an eMachines PC.
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To be honest with you, I am not all that familiar with emachines.

But, if you can purchase Best Buy's 3 year warranty for $199, which covers all parts and labor, I think you would be ok. So, I don't know if that would really be a factor,unless of course you don't get the extended warranty.

Yes, I do agree that I would rather pay extra for quality and I don't mind doing that. I am the type of person who is trying to always buy American, even if it is a couple of dollars more.

But, the problem is Apple is double the price when it should be the other way around.

Don't worry. I am not going to buy the emachines. I will continue to wait, but man I wish Apple would hurry up!
 
Re: Re: 64-bit laptops at Best Buy

Well, true - you could get an extended warranty and at least be covered for 3 years. But extended warranties don't cover data loss or your hassles having to disconnect a broken PC and take it back in for an exchange (or waiting with days of downtime for an on-site service person to show up to work on it).

They're also not really going to help you much if you have flaky, intermittent problems you can't reproduce consistently. (Things like inferior quality RAM can do this to you - and it's maddening when it happens.) Sure, you can try to make a warranty claim - but if it works ok when the store's tech. takes a look at it, they'll just blame it on software and give it back to you.

Apple is sometimes "double the price", but it's tough to do a fair comparison. Will the other vendors actually answer the tech. support line with real English-speaking people when you call for help? What's that worth to you? How's their turn-around time when you do send a system in for repair? (Apple is consistently rated at the top of the list for fast turnaround time and customer satisfaction. See Consumer Reports, for ratings on this type of thing.) Even Dell is a distant #2 by comparison (according to last year's survey in PC Magazine, of all places!). Also, when you buy Apple, you're paying more for a system that runs a completely different operating system than the competition. If you find OS X to be superior to Windows (and I know I sure do!), what sort of premium might that be worth paying?

When it's all said and done, there's no doubt a Mac is expensive. I just don't see how it can be any other way. That's like complaining that Porsche makes cars that cost "twice as much as a Ford or Chevy!" and saying "it should be the other way around!". Why would it? You get what you pay for.


Originally posted by Dave the Great
To be honest with you, I am not all that familiar with emachines.

But, if you can purchase Best Buy's 3 year warranty for $199, which covers all parts and labor, I think you would be ok. So, I don't know if that would really be a factor,unless of course you don't get the extended warranty.

Yes, I do agree that I would rather pay extra for quality and I don't mind doing that. I am the type of person who is trying to always buy American, even if it is a couple of dollars more.

But, the problem is Apple is double the price when it should be the other way around.
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Audience Applause Goes Here!

Bravo KingTJ

I agree completely. Look at it this way...I have written on here quite a bit in the past week with all my issues with my purchase of my new powerbook.....and they all seem very overwelming.... BUT....

They are nothing....and I repeat nothing that I would be encountering if I had of gone out and bought an emachine (of any kind or model). Trust my saying this as I know from much experiance through close friends and my past sales experiiance in the PC computer field. It used to be said that Dell was a terrible machine when they first came out cause they literally through garbage parts together and shipped it out the door....but then miraculously they changed their style and started making quality machines.....but emachines are even worse then dell was in their beginning stages....emachine is called emachine cause it means economy (may not be real definition...but it should be) all the parts have their machines are usually from brand name companies but they are the garbage parts sold to them for dirt because the other companies wont use them. I have used many emachines over the past few years at work and at friends and such....they are...GARBAGE! no ifs ands or buts....they are this and nothing more.

Wheeww... what is with us mac people who have had bad pc experiances....wow we can certainly talk ourselves blue in the face about the negatives about PCs we have used huh? wheew glad my rant about that is over and I can breath again.

Anyways...needless to say...don't allow yourself to go from being an educated yet self minded mac user/lover and turn into a mind slave to the PC market's... well Marketing. GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT.... if you cant figure out why a G4 powerbook would be good for you...then wait for the G5book... if you have to have something sooner then atleast go for a reputable PC manufacturer...don't ever waste your time and money on a garbage manufacturer.

And hey...we are just trying to save you some major grief here friend... if we didn't care... we woudln't say a word and let you buy one and then watch you cry after.
 
Mac vs eMachines

Just how many of you would be willing to part with your Mac for purpose of repair? Not me, not even for a day. My daily work, contacts, etc goes when my Mac got sent in for repair, although fortunately I could deprive my son of his iBook temporarily but its not the same.

Hence paying double for a computer with hardly any downtime is worth my while compared to sending in warranty covered PCs for repeated fixing-ups with all its inherent problems.

Occasionally you get lemons but to me that is just the luck of the draw.
 
Re: Re: 7200RPM drive in a Powerbook 1.25?

Originally posted by pigwin32
I do notice a very minor increase in noise and maybe a little vibration.
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i did the same; however, mine is dead silent and does vibrate less than the older one. maybe you should redo the installation - you may have one of those rubber feet installed badly.
 
Office on wheels with an iBook or PowerBook - perfect

Originally posted by JonRaven I do hope that this hissing sound is just what you guys are talking about and some sort of old house power current problem that means my new pbook is just fine and just may need a good backup power UPC system like one of you had mentioned...
I think I top will wait a bit for the 7200 rpm drive till they get them to the 80 gig point as I want space and speed
Peace My fellow mac lovers
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Jon, I installed an expensive Hunter ceiling fan on a Hunter switch in my bedroom, and the thing still hums when it really should not. Only explanation my power company Electrician father-in-law could give me is "sometimes it's just the wiring", you know it's like the guy with a metal plate in his head and he gets radio broadcasts, or it hums and vibrates for no apparent reason. We still don't know everything about electricity. That's why I suggest you plug the PB in at several different places, and try another charger.
Jon, I'm convinced there is nothing wrong with your PB itself.

Is your current HD 4200 or 5400 rpm, 60 or 80GB?

I carry my whole law office on a 30GB HardDrive and only after 2 years am I starting to get anxious about filling it up in the next year or so. For video editing and downloading DV, I use my G4 dp 1GHz with 3 extra internal drives - 2 x 100GB RAID (soft) on a PCI/SCSI bus (fast, for video storage) and a 200GB 7200 drive (too big, disappointingly slow) that is HALF as fast as the combined 200GB RAID! (I was really surprised).
My point is, the 60GB will probably serve you just fine... so, why wait? If you need extra space, go external FireWire (800?).

If I edit on my book, I don't worry about using the internal for storage, I use a 120 GB LaCie FireWire, and since my SONY ComboDrive has been acting up (won't open without an iPaperClip and turns too many CDs into coasters) I bought a 4x LaCie SuperDrive and use DVD Studio and Toast 6 to burn DVDs.

My "portable office" on wheels fits neatly into an American Touristor carry on luggage bag with wheels and a pull out handle, so the extra weight of the external HD and SuperDrive is no big deal, and I carry a CanoScan LiDE30 and a Canon i70 mobile printer (excellent photo quality) with battery attached, so I can set up office on a Client's kitchen table, in the back of my VW Eurovan with center table, or in the local CoCo's or McDonald's and do ANYTHING. Need a Will or Trust?

I've been wondering if my Motorola cellphone when attached by USB connector cable to the iBook would let me FAX stuff or connect to the internet for email wirelessly.

I tried the SONY Ericsson cell phone with Bluetooth, (great for iSync) which was super EXCEPT no signal reception at my home! had to take it back, sadly.

As you can tell, I'm big on portability which I never had before I bought my iBook just so I could take ALL my digital "office files" with me on vacation. Downloaded digital photos onto the iBook (900 in 2 weeks) after sightseeing each day, and when the iPhoto collection got a little BIG, I burned it all onto a CD, and gave an extra one to Grandma before I left for home. Printed some letter size photos on glossy photo paper using the Canon for very personal gifts. Sweet!

Even got a new client from NY when I answered my Phoenix AZ cellphone while driving down the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Watched a new DVD movie on the flight home since I'd seen the one being shown. I love my iBook. :)

Is an Apple book a great way of iLife or what? :D
 
Re: Re: Re: 64-bit laptops at Best Buy

Originally posted by kingtj
...When it's all said and done, there's no doubt a Mac is expensive...
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While I won't argue with this statement, I think that it must be taken into consideration that if you were to go to a top-of-the-line PC manufacturer and configure a PC equivalent to the G5, you'd come out about the same price. So, yes, Macs are expensive, but not unduly so. They are, for the most part, in line with the market, given what they are.
 
Re: Off topic and not for the faint of heart

Originally posted by pigwin32
Just chased a link from (slightly embarrassed cough) macosrumors. This guy has got some serious issues, not least of which is a fondness for Windows XP http://www.overclockers.com/tips1133/. Any chance at all this is a photoshop effort?
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This is really sickening. I doubt it was PSed. I'm just ill from having read it. It's like someone cut a work of art to pieces because he liked the frame it was in, but wanted to have his own water-color in the frame, rather then the original work.
 
Pathetic case

I'm sure that there are people like that who are just plain stupid or that they are comfortable lying in their own well and dare not venture outside despite what they might have heard from their friends.

Not everyone can be saved.

We try and observe 1 minute of silence for these people...
 
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