no,no,no... there isn't going to be any updates til' later this year for those. it seems to me people on this site get all hyped up about something (ex. the ibox) then it never happens. I understand its not all going to happen but to a certain point you need to think logically. has apple ever released new products right around the super bowl? why would they do it now? apple never blows us away with lots of products in this short amount of time. it has only been a few weeks since macworld. i bet you nothing apple wont release a thing, but they may update their itms for the give away. the marketing strategie for apple is really predictable. apple always will hype stuff up before its released. apple only announces major new products twice a year. on one hand i like being able to enjoy my imac while its still the most recent , but on the other it seems apple is behind in releases compared to pc's. well maybe i'm just talking outa my az but you can be the one to decide. thats my story and im stickin to it!
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PowerBooks on Feb 2nd?
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Apple sometimes do not announce minor hardware upgrades when available despite it was a big Mac event (happened last year but could not remember exact event) maybe reason being other items are more crucial.
By the way, did anybody order a Powerbook the past week, other than 12 in model, and got it before the 3 Feb?
By the way, did anybody order a Powerbook the past week, other than 12 in model, and got it before the 3 Feb?
Well my order [Powerbook 15" Superdrive ordered 2 weeks ago] status just changed to shipped, although I can't quite track it just yet. The Powerbook itself says "Open" still but the entire order title just changed.
Seems that the alleged "Manufacturing Delay" was in actual fact a "Manufacturing Delay".
As much as this is a let down after following these rumours for so long, I'm still completely excited about having a Superdrive finally, the new iLife, backlit keyboard, and just a beautiful Powerbook in the first place.
Seems that the alleged "Manufacturing Delay" was in actual fact a "Manufacturing Delay".
As much as this is a let down after following these rumours for so long, I'm still completely excited about having a Superdrive finally, the new iLife, backlit keyboard, and just a beautiful Powerbook in the first place.
Re: Re: Waiting...
From The Register and previously quoted on macrumors "The 970FX, meanwhile, consumes a mere 12.3W at 1.4GHz, paving the way for PowerBook G5s. That figure is comparable to the 7.5W a 1GHz consumption of the G4-class Motorola MPC7447 that drives the current PowerBook G4s. The 970FX's SpeedStep-style PowerTune technology will help too."
Blah blah blah, is this a troll?
From The Register and previously quoted on macrumors "The 970FX, meanwhile, consumes a mere 12.3W at 1.4GHz, paving the way for PowerBook G5s. That figure is comparable to the 7.5W a 1GHz consumption of the G4-class Motorola MPC7447 that drives the current PowerBook G4s. The 970FX's SpeedStep-style PowerTune technology will help too."
Re: just my suggestions
Again, valuable advice Jon.
Jon, your advice on the RAM and HD was solid as usual, and our adding the Warning about being sure to have Apple put in the new HD to avoid VOIDING the Warranty was just to cover your back, and make sure none of us recommends that they do something themselves if it could get them in trouble. MacBuddies, right?
Again, valuable advice Jon.
Re: I don't think it's legal?
Typically, after Apple has released an update, they contact customers who have outstanding orders and ask them if they want the order as it was originally placed at a lower price, or the new upgraded product at the original price. Also, with regards to the prospect of new PBs being lower in price, they wouldn't have to send anyone a check as they don't actually charge you anything until they ship your order. So, if the price was lowered, they'd simply charge you less when they shipped your order.
Typically, after Apple has released an update, they contact customers who have outstanding orders and ask them if they want the order as it was originally placed at a lower price, or the new upgraded product at the original price. Also, with regards to the prospect of new PBs being lower in price, they wouldn't have to send anyone a check as they don't actually charge you anything until they ship your order. So, if the price was lowered, they'd simply charge you less when they shipped your order.
Re: YEs...please dont think I meant to
This is something that I find mildly irritating. I'm quite accomplished at doing things like this, and if it weren't for the warranty issue, I'd install my own hard drive in a heart beat. I've installed a new hard drive in my old PB3400. In fact, I've completely dismantled that machine down to bear parts, and put it back together again. It's not that hard to do...
This is something that I find mildly irritating. I'm quite accomplished at doing things like this, and if it weren't for the warranty issue, I'd install my own hard drive in a heart beat. I've installed a new hard drive in my old PB3400. In fact, I've completely dismantled that machine down to bear parts, and put it back together again. It's not that hard to do...
80GB 5400 HD?
Does anyone know anything about the Hitachi/IBM TravelStar 80GB 5400RPM drives?
This is the first 80GB drive that I've seen for the PowerBooks. Some time back I decided that I wouldn't upgrade my 12" until I could double its 40GB drive. Is this a good option?
Does anyone know anything about the Hitachi/IBM TravelStar 80GB 5400RPM drives?
This is the first 80GB drive that I've seen for the PowerBooks. Some time back I decided that I wouldn't upgrade my 12" until I could double its 40GB drive. Is this a good option?
Re: 80GB 5400 HD?
Yeah, it seems to get pretty good marks.
For some benchmarks, check out:
http://barefeats.com/hard34.html
Yeah, it seems to get pretty good marks.
For some benchmarks, check out:
http://barefeats.com/hard34.html
Re: 80GB 5400 HD?
Hitachi/IBM TravelStar 60GB 7200 rpm drive for $259
http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_I...Item=HIT08K0939
especially for DV editing/rendering/encoding with FinalCut Pro4.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see a 7200 rpm drive with 80GB for a laptop.
SnowyRiver, it's a solid, reasonably quiet drive, but I still prefer the smaller but FASTER
Hitachi/IBM TravelStar 60GB 7200 rpm drive for $259
http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_I...Item=HIT08K0939
especially for DV editing/rendering/encoding with FinalCut Pro4.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see a 7200 rpm drive with 80GB for a laptop.
Who really believes?
Just kinda curious who actually thinks this rumor will come true? New Powerbooks on the 2nd/3rd? I just switch over to Apple about a year ago so I may be wrong but I seem to notice that Apple doesn't tend to release or do more then one thing at a time (aside from the big events). Does anyone think Apple would release updates to the books or the towers alongside the launch of the iTunes giveaway? Just looking for some opinions... I want to buy a new Powerbook and I don't mind waiting for a revision since I'm not in any hurry.
Also another question... Relistically, what is the earliest a G5 could be put into a Powerbook? I've heard from most people that the new g5's (the ones in the xserves) are still running too hot and they are too big and blah blah blah we've all heard it. But then I talked to a few other people that make very good points that the xserve processors don't put out much heat or power consumption if you turn them down to say a 1.4 ghz. This guy made a good argument for a G5 in March. So sorry for beating a dead horse but just kinda curious what everyone thinks?
Just kinda curious who actually thinks this rumor will come true? New Powerbooks on the 2nd/3rd? I just switch over to Apple about a year ago so I may be wrong but I seem to notice that Apple doesn't tend to release or do more then one thing at a time (aside from the big events). Does anyone think Apple would release updates to the books or the towers alongside the launch of the iTunes giveaway? Just looking for some opinions... I want to buy a new Powerbook and I don't mind waiting for a revision since I'm not in any hurry.
Also another question... Relistically, what is the earliest a G5 could be put into a Powerbook? I've heard from most people that the new g5's (the ones in the xserves) are still running too hot and they are too big and blah blah blah we've all heard it. But then I talked to a few other people that make very good points that the xserve processors don't put out much heat or power consumption if you turn them down to say a 1.4 ghz. This guy made a good argument for a G5 in March. So sorry for beating a dead horse but just kinda curious what everyone thinks?
Buy Powerbook now or wait
Since you are not in a hurry, I suggest you wait until you really need to ..
For me, I am getting a new Powerbook with or without an upgrade but in Singapore, I get price protection for 60 days. My 1st generation Tibook recently fell and broke its hinge and servicing would require to replace the LCD and hence, I decided to get a new 17-in Albook.
I would like to have a new Powerbook last week or this week but the local supplier is not shipping until Feb 3.
Since you are not in a hurry, I suggest you wait until you really need to ..
For me, I am getting a new Powerbook with or without an upgrade but in Singapore, I get price protection for 60 days. My 1st generation Tibook recently fell and broke its hinge and servicing would require to replace the LCD and hence, I decided to get a new 17-in Albook.
I would like to have a new Powerbook last week or this week but the local supplier is not shipping until Feb 3.
It just occured to me for the first time that it would make sense for Apple to come out with new software after the Pepsi promotion starts.
Think about it, the ads and the bottle caps could lead to hundreds of thousands of first time visitors to Apple.com.
Why not wait and have the latest and greatest Apple has to offer until they start coming.
Think about it, the ads and the bottle caps could lead to hundreds of thousands of first time visitors to Apple.com.
Why not wait and have the latest and greatest Apple has to offer until they start coming.
What was it like before the last round of updates?
People, I'm new to the community, I ain't been around but a few weeks. The constant flow of rumors of hardware (powerbooks specifically) updates and price drops is a bit unexpected and overwhelming. Yes I know it's a rumor site, but I just didn't expect there too be so many (that didn't/haven't been true) in such a short amount of time. But I'm not complaining, just looking for info (and still holding out hope for Feb 2/3).
Question number one: Is this how it always is around the Mac rumor mill? Every week or few days brings another "expect big things tomorrow or the next day, etc". Again, I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to get a feel for a rumors to fact ratio, which ain't been so good so far ;-)
Question number two: Since I'm in the market for a powerbook I'm interested to know what was the "feel" before the last round of powerbook updates? I wasn't "around" for that so I don't know. Were there similar, frequent rumors flying every few days or did they just pop up on Apple's website one day? Macrumor.com's buyer's guide for powerbooks says "Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle". Was this what it said last time?
Please be aware that I'm not asking for your speculation on when updates are coming (though feel free), no one can know that for sure, just what it was like before updates last time.
TIA,
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Kary Rogers
My Apple Store experience
People, I'm new to the community, I ain't been around but a few weeks. The constant flow of rumors of hardware (powerbooks specifically) updates and price drops is a bit unexpected and overwhelming. Yes I know it's a rumor site, but I just didn't expect there too be so many (that didn't/haven't been true) in such a short amount of time. But I'm not complaining, just looking for info (and still holding out hope for Feb 2/3).
Question number one: Is this how it always is around the Mac rumor mill? Every week or few days brings another "expect big things tomorrow or the next day, etc". Again, I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to get a feel for a rumors to fact ratio, which ain't been so good so far ;-)
Question number two: Since I'm in the market for a powerbook I'm interested to know what was the "feel" before the last round of powerbook updates? I wasn't "around" for that so I don't know. Were there similar, frequent rumors flying every few days or did they just pop up on Apple's website one day? Macrumor.com's buyer's guide for powerbooks says "Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle". Was this what it said last time?
Please be aware that I'm not asking for your speculation on when updates are coming (though feel free), no one can know that for sure, just what it was like before updates last time.
TIA,
--
Kary Rogers
My Apple Store experience
I would think you should call Apple. Anything ordered after 1/6 should have shipped with the latest version.
Unless, it was a refurb. I don't think those rules apply.
G5 PowerBook release date?
Sometimes we get rumors based on pretty good information about some manufacture, which Apple is known to use to produce iBooks or PowerBooks or towers, getting a block of 10,000 or 20,000 G5 chips, which is enough for a manufacturing "run" of something, but then a rumor comes in about a large shipment of unusually high resolution LCDs to that manufacturer, so several rumors are pasted together and we try to come up with a plausible product and estimated completion date based on history.
My feeling is that Apple tries very hard to time a public release of product until
1. it actually has some product in warehouse to distribute (or it's in their stores ready for sale, like a new OS X)
2. a major event (if close enough) including a Keynote address (pure drama & free advertising) by Steve Jobs, so the item can be properly introduced to the public, thereby stirring up desire and sales
3. it is simply ready to be released and is unceremoniously, almost.
Until Apple licks the "heat" problem so the G5 books won't come back to AppleCare within a week after delivery, there will be no manufacturing run and thus NO release. There is the self imposed pressure of an end of 2004, or early 2005 and we WILL have the problems licked GOAL set by Jobs (as a leader), but gains in technology are the ultimate limit. Wishing and doing are sometimes opposed. No one knows how Apple is "doing" right now, so it's mainly a lot of "wishing" for a G5 PowerBook that's going on.
Releasing a new iTunes Music Giveaway should really have nothing to do with a hardware release. Neither Apple nor any other computer manufacturer wants to hold millions of dollars of product in their warehouse any longer than necessary because that costs money and loses income. Besides, the Tunes giveaway is a Pepsi thing, Apple is only the supplier of the means.
When is there going to be a G5 book, no one knows. I'm personally not betting on the end of this year, so I'd be shocked if there was a March 2004 release. And, I'm not going to be a Guinea Pig as an early adopter for some pretty radical new technology that's got to go into any new G5 PowerBook. Let the tech and the cost stew a bit in the market place before jumping in with blind faith and $3000.
This is Crystal Ball stuff you are asking.
Sometimes we get rumors based on pretty good information about some manufacture, which Apple is known to use to produce iBooks or PowerBooks or towers, getting a block of 10,000 or 20,000 G5 chips, which is enough for a manufacturing "run" of something, but then a rumor comes in about a large shipment of unusually high resolution LCDs to that manufacturer, so several rumors are pasted together and we try to come up with a plausible product and estimated completion date based on history.
My feeling is that Apple tries very hard to time a public release of product until
1. it actually has some product in warehouse to distribute (or it's in their stores ready for sale, like a new OS X)
2. a major event (if close enough) including a Keynote address (pure drama & free advertising) by Steve Jobs, so the item can be properly introduced to the public, thereby stirring up desire and sales
3. it is simply ready to be released and is unceremoniously, almost.
Until Apple licks the "heat" problem so the G5 books won't come back to AppleCare within a week after delivery, there will be no manufacturing run and thus NO release. There is the self imposed pressure of an end of 2004, or early 2005 and we WILL have the problems licked GOAL set by Jobs (as a leader), but gains in technology are the ultimate limit. Wishing and doing are sometimes opposed. No one knows how Apple is "doing" right now, so it's mainly a lot of "wishing" for a G5 PowerBook that's going on.
Releasing a new iTunes Music Giveaway should really have nothing to do with a hardware release. Neither Apple nor any other computer manufacturer wants to hold millions of dollars of product in their warehouse any longer than necessary because that costs money and loses income. Besides, the Tunes giveaway is a Pepsi thing, Apple is only the supplier of the means.
When is there going to be a G5 book, no one knows. I'm personally not betting on the end of this year, so I'd be shocked if there was a March 2004 release. And, I'm not going to be a Guinea Pig as an early adopter for some pretty radical new technology that's got to go into any new G5 PowerBook. Let the tech and the cost stew a bit in the market place before jumping in with blind faith and $3000.
My 15" Powerbook will now officially arrive on Monday.
Does anyone know what this last spec means from my order page:
PBG4 15.2/1.25GHZ/1024/80/SD/AP/BL/LL
I know it was a 15.2" screen, is 1.25 Gigahertz, has 2 512 Megahertz RAM dudes, an 80 gig hard drive, a SuperDrive, Airport, and a backlit keyboard, but whats the "LL"?
Thanks in advance, everyone here is so darn helpful.
Does anyone know what this last spec means from my order page:
PBG4 15.2/1.25GHZ/1024/80/SD/AP/BL/LL
I know it was a 15.2" screen, is 1.25 Gigahertz, has 2 512 Megahertz RAM dudes, an 80 gig hard drive, a SuperDrive, Airport, and a backlit keyboard, but whats the "LL"?
Thanks in advance, everyone here is so darn helpful.
Re: Who really believes?
I think that it's fairly certain that something is coming. Usually the best way to get a ball park estimate of when updates are coming is to look at the timeline. It's now been long enough that we can be fairly certain that an update is coming "soon". The real question is, what is "soon". It could be a few days, or it could be a few months. The deciding factor would be what Apple can pull off, and what chips are available from Moto and/or IBM.
I think that the real answer is that no one really knows. We don't have all of the information about all of the G5 and the complete chipset that Apple has put together for it. While a lot is known about the processor and chipset in the PM G5, but the 970FX is much more of a mystery, and we don't know if Apple has a completely different chipset already developed that would keep things cooler.
So, as I said, I think that the real answer is that no one, no matter how much they'd like to claim the contrary (unless they're willing to admit to working in an Apple R&D lab), really knows.
I think that it's fairly certain that something is coming. Usually the best way to get a ball park estimate of when updates are coming is to look at the timeline. It's now been long enough that we can be fairly certain that an update is coming "soon". The real question is, what is "soon". It could be a few days, or it could be a few months. The deciding factor would be what Apple can pull off, and what chips are available from Moto and/or IBM.
I think that the real answer is that no one really knows. We don't have all of the information about all of the G5 and the complete chipset that Apple has put together for it. While a lot is known about the processor and chipset in the PM G5, but the 970FX is much more of a mystery, and we don't know if Apple has a completely different chipset already developed that would keep things cooler.
So, as I said, I think that the real answer is that no one, no matter how much they'd like to claim the contrary (unless they're willing to admit to working in an Apple R&D lab), really knows.
Re: What was it like before the last round of updates?
Yeah, this is pretty much it. We're always chewing some cud.
And, also, the PowerBooks were being rumored to being updated almost once a week from May '03 until they finally were, in September. So, take all rumors with a grain of salt...
Yeah, this is pretty much it. We're always chewing some cud.
And, also, the PowerBooks were being rumored to being updated almost once a week from May '03 until they finally were, in September. So, take all rumors with a grain of salt...
Re: What was it like before the last round of updates?
Its like that episode of the Simpsons where Bart and Lisa are at Kamp Krusty and Bart is keening and repeating "Krusty is coming"
I touched a g5 in june but I wasn't believing in their reality until one was sitting on my desk in december.
Its like that episode of the Simpsons where Bart and Lisa are at Kamp Krusty and Bart is keening and repeating "Krusty is coming"
I touched a g5 in june but I wasn't believing in their reality until one was sitting on my desk in december.