Good news, I have preliminarily ported PowerFox to 10.4! This was done by hand by utilizing Cameron Kaiser's patches from the TenFourFox codebase, and will definitely be releasable at some point after the bugs are fixed.
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Good news, I have preliminarily ported PowerFox to 10.4! This was done by hand by utilizing Cameron Kaiser's patches from the TenFourFox codebase, and will definitely be releasable at some point after the bugs are fixed.
After some work, we'll have native brushed metal for the UI!
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Smithwick’s
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Excellent! I have Tiger on everything from G3s to various G4s and my G5, so if you need any testing for various devices drop a line.
danupsher
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Quick update, I've fixed the last major issue for 10.4, expect a build soon!
On a side note, I'm really happy with how the brushed metal interface turned out, in my opinion it looks great on Tiger.
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One last update, I'm pleased to announce that PowerFox will be offered natively for G3, G4, G5, and Intel on 10.4!
I've been able to get G3 and Intel builds working alongside G4 and G5 after doing debugging with an internal testing group.
I've been able to get G3 and Intel builds working alongside G4 and G5 after doing debugging with an internal testing group.
jktwice
macrumors regular
Amazing work on this browser! We’re in a pretty good position now I’d imagine.
It’s the dawn of a new era on this vintage of machine. It makes Tiger quite a bit more viable for sure.
Appleuser201
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Quite a LOT more viable. This is amazing. Tiger runs way better than Leopard on G4 systems and has a performance advantage on G5s as well. And having Classic Mode still is great too.
Dronecatcher
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Or does it?
Tiger vs Leopard - 2022 Edition
My recently acquired Powerbook G4 12" has happily been running Tiger but this weekend I decided to partition the drive, add Leopard and make some direct comparisons between the two. Initially, things didn't look so great for Leopard as Geekbench reported a roughly 100 point decrease but we know...
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Appleuser201
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Interesting. Never would have expected Leopard to have the edge in certain things! Have you tried Sorbet Leopard? Or the unofficial 10.4.12 shuriken? I've got shuriken on my 1.5ghz powerbook and it's very fast and web browsing performance in Aquafox is great.Or does it?
Tiger vs Leopard - 2022 Edition
My recently acquired Powerbook G4 12" has happily been running Tiger but this weekend I decided to partition the drive, add Leopard and make some direct comparisons between the two. Initially, things didn't look so great for Leopard as Geekbench reported a roughly 100 point decrease but we know...
Dronecatcher
macrumors 603
All of my Tiger/Leopard installs had the tried and tested optimisations that Sorbet/Shuriken rounded up.
jktwice
macrumors regular
I feel the need to hype things up a little bit. Don't wanna spoil though. PF has a bright future ahead of it from my understanding of things though.
My experience with the application is really great. Intel build is phenomenal and flies on forums and even video playback. It is so far quite stable but I haven't had so much time with PF yet that I can accurately judge stability over long use. Discord is slow but oh well. Also Intel has a JIT so that's really nice for that small slice of users (me!). It's awesome on a C2D MBP 2007. I can't imagine it on a Mac Pro 2,1 with a eight-core configuration. The G5 build also uses G5 instructions but there is no JIT for it yet.
This will keep G3s and G4s on the internet for some more time. I was pretty doubtful before this would be possible on Tiger but now it is a reality and I am definitely lovin it.
My experience with the application is really great. Intel build is phenomenal and flies on forums and even video playback. It is so far quite stable but I haven't had so much time with PF yet that I can accurately judge stability over long use. Discord is slow but oh well. Also Intel has a JIT so that's really nice for that small slice of users (me!). It's awesome on a C2D MBP 2007. I can't imagine it on a Mac Pro 2,1 with a eight-core configuration. The G5 build also uses G5 instructions but there is no JIT for it yet.
This will keep G3s and G4s on the internet for some more time. I was pretty doubtful before this would be possible on Tiger but now it is a reality and I am definitely lovin it.
I'm proud to announce that builds for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger are now available!
Native optimized builds are available for G3, G4, G4e, G5, and Intel. These builds have all been extensively tested and should work as well as the Leopard builds. G5 and Intel builds are recommended for video playback, and the Intel build ships with a JavaScript JIT.
Thank you to everyone who has supported PowerFox's development! A big thank you to Cameron Kaiser for TenFourFox (again), as this port would not have been possible without his excellent work over 10 years ago.
Enjoy, and let me know what you think.
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Native optimized builds are available for G3, G4, G4e, G5, and Intel. These builds have all been extensively tested and should work as well as the Leopard builds. G5 and Intel builds are recommended for video playback, and the Intel build ships with a JavaScript JIT.
Thank you to everyone who has supported PowerFox's development! A big thank you to Cameron Kaiser for TenFourFox (again), as this port would not have been possible without his excellent work over 10 years ago.
Enjoy, and let me know what you think.
Release 26.2.1 Tiger Beta · Jazzzny/powerfox-browser
Initial beta release for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Thank you to everyone who has supported PowerFox! Note If you are running Mac OS X 10.5 or 10.6, please use their respective releases. Releases for 10....
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Appleuser201
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This is amazing, thank you for your work. My G3 iMac only has 384mb of ram, and every website crashes while loading most likely because of that. How do I change the user agent to a stripped down mobile one, like the KaiOS UA in Aquafox?I'm proud to announce that builds for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger are now available!
Native optimized builds are available for G3, G4, G4e, G5, and Intel. These builds have all been extensively tested and should work as well as the Leopard builds. G5 and Intel builds are recommended for video playback, and the Intel build ships with a JavaScript JIT.
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Thank you to everyone who has supported PowerFox's development! A big thank you to Cameron Kaiser for TenFourFox (again), as this port would not have been possible without his excellent work over 10 years ago.
Enjoy, and let me know what you think.
Release 26.2.1 Tiger Beta · Jazzzny/powerfox-browser
Initial beta release for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Thank you to everyone who has supported PowerFox! Note If you are running Mac OS X 10.5 or 10.6, please use their respective releases. Releases for 10....
jktwice
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I really think that upgrading to a full 512MB or 1GB depending on your model is the way to go and no user agent will truly make it usable without that. PF with zero page outs on my G5 takes up 800MBs of RAM typically.
That being said, try this maybe? https://addons.basilisk-browser.org/addon/ua-status/
Dronecatcher
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Type in the URL bar, about:config
From there, you can edit the prefs.js file and manually enter/change user agents.
I can confirm with my iBook G3 700 MHz with 384mb of RAM
Wikipedia can load in Aquafox just fine (desktop version) but PowerFox just crash when the site almost finished loading. Probably because the machine is lacking of RAM.
I don't think the dev can do miracles at improving RAM consumption considering how heavy and bloated is the modern web nowadays
I would caution against assuming that these crashes are solely about low available RAM.
This ignores the possibility that there are remaining bugs that can be resolved.
Is there a crash log that is generated that might contain useful diagnostic information?
Appleuser201
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I'll check next time I try it. It runs fine on my Powerbook G4 with only 768mb of ram, and has not crashed for me once. It's actually even fairly usable.
Is the G3 build built on a G3? It's possible stability issues are due to the libgcc from Macports, I am not convinced any modern libgcc from there has been tested much on G3.
It's why I have stuck to G4 for my builds, I would not have success fixing for G3 without a G3. So much assumes Altivec.