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Ideally i’d like to see my SeaMonkey fork that’s built on top of UXP built for PowerPC and/or Snow Leopard. I’ve been a huge SeaMonkey fan since it originated. Having the full suite on those old machines would be awesome. Sadly i barely have time to keep up with current UXP changes for my 10.7 builds. If either your or @Jazzzny or both want to tackle a PPC/10.6 port of that someday i’d be thrilled. You can even use my branding. At any rate, keep up the good work guys. 🙂
Out of sheer curiosity.. how does SeaLion run on a G3 under Linux? Is it unusable? But yes, I'd also love to see it ported to PPC OS X and Intel Snow Leopard if anyone has the time and capacity to do so. I like the classic FireFox design a lot.
 
Out of sheer curiosity.. how does SeaLion run on a G3 under Linux? Is it unusable? But yes, I'd also love to see it ported to PPC OS X and Intel Snow Leopard if anyone has the time and capacity to do so. I like the classic FireFox design a lot.
I can't speak for SeaLion specifically, but in my experience it's fairly difficult to get anything beyond a minimalist setup functioning on a G3. Even X11 is pushing it. Granted, my only experience is sub-400MHz so the later revisions (or even the B&W PM) might change that game. I think the game changer for the G4 really is the AltiVec, besides the increasing MHz in general. I do wonder how Linux or BSD would compare on one of those 900MHz G3 IBooks compared to a low-MHz G4, though. Maybe a fun test for anyone with a more extensive collection that me!
 
I can't speak for SeaLion specifically, but in my experience it's fairly difficult to get anything beyond a minimalist setup functioning on a G3. Even X11 is pushing it. Granted, my only experience is sub-400MHz so the later revisions (or even the B&W PM) might change that game. I think the game changer for the G4 really is the AltiVec, besides the increasing MHz in general. I do wonder how Linux or BSD would compare on one of those 900MHz G3 IBooks compared to a low-MHz G4, though. Maybe a fun test for anyone with a more extensive collection that me!
I saw someone post an image here of SeaLion running on their G3, but I don't remember them discussing anything about performance. SeaLion definitely can run on a G3, but I'd still imagine it would be at least a bit heavier than the TFF based browsers due to its more modern engine not to mention the Linux distro on top. As great as Aquafox is, and it runs great on later G4s and up, it still chugs on a G3.
 
Power Macintosh, meet PowerFox

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Hello all, I'm very happy to announce the beta release of PowerFox Browser for the PowerPC architecture.

PowerFox is not a derivative of TenFourFox. Rather, it is a brand-new browser for PowerPC, built from the same codebase as the 10.6 Intel variant. To refresh your memory, this brings a modern web engine (UXP) with excellent support for the modern internet, with features such as OpenGL acceleration, coloured emoji, modern HTML/CSS/JavaScript support, container tabs, language packs, video codecs (no need for an "enabler"), and much more.

Right now, PowerFox is offered in a beta state for PowerPC - expect bugs and other issues, and please report any of them that you encounter to this thread or on the GitHub bugtracker.

System Requirements
  • Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
  • PowerPC G4 or PowerPC G5 processor
  • 1 GHz processor for proper video playback
Known Issues/Limitations
  • JavaScript JIT (Just-In-Time) compilation is currently unimplemented. This means that JavaScript performance will be slower than that of TenFourFox and its derivatives, please consider installing an Ad Blocker and keeping expectations within reason.
  • Certain SVG images will not render correctly - under investigation.
PowerFox for PowerPC wouldn't have been possible without the developers behind the UXP web engine - namely dbsoft. Thank you!

You can download a build from the PowerFox website or GitHub. Let me know what you think, and happy browsing!

- Jazzzny
How do i install this on my 2006 Intel Imac currently running OS 10.5.8?
 
How do i install this on my 2006 Intel Imac currently running OS 10.5.8?
Intel Leopard (Tiger too, for that matter) is a bit of a red headed step child. Any reason you’re running it and not Snow Leopard? Asking because a lot of these newer softwares for x86 are typically targeted to SL and can’t run on T or L.
 
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Working for me on G4. Great work here, I can even login to Microsoft outlook (very slowly) and browse email, which I couldn't do under Powerfox. Although I suspect that's due to it's user agent, whereas this browser identifies itself as modern Firefox.
Just an FYI for PowerFox, switching the user agent for outlook + office365 to the KAIOS string available in AquaFox fixed it for me. It also has the added bonus of giving you a very stripped down mobile interface. String to add is general.useragent.override.outlook.com (and office365.com) and the value for both is Mozilla/5.0 (Mobile; rv:48.0) Gecko/48.0 Firefox/48.0 KAIOS/2.0
 
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Just tried PowerFox on one of my G4 iMacs 1.25 Ghz running Sorbet Leopard and it's working good. I even loaded icloud.com. Actually it wouldn't load correctly but, I added /mail to it and it loaded my mail! First recent PPC browser to do that. Usually comes up to update my browser.
 
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Just tried PowerFox on one of my G4 iMacs 1.25 Ghz running Sorbet Leopard and it's working good. I even loaded icloud.com. Actually it wouldn't load correctly but, I added /mail to it and it loaded my mail! First recent PPC browser to do that. Usually comes up to update my browser.
I think its due to lack of JIT causing loading issues with login websites. Sometimes refreshing will fix it and cause the assets to finish loading.
 
I think its due to lack of JIT causing loading issues with login websites. Sometimes refreshing will fix it and cause the assets to finish loading.
I got the "do you want to keep loading this script" message and I clicked yes. It took a long time to load but, finally got icloud mail to load.
 
I got the "do you want to keep loading this script" message and I clicked yes. It took a long time to load but, finally got icloud mail to load.
A function JIT will be a gamechanger. It won't make a G4 and definitely not a G3 fast, but it'll significantly help. And a fast G5 with a supported graphics card will be legitimately daily drivable (if you don't mind insane electrical bills haha), and it can double as a space heater during the colder months.
 
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Thanks @dbsoft and @Jazzzny and anybody else involved for working on porting UXP to Leopard/Snow Leopard. Huge thanks to dbsoft for the Brass Monkey build for Leopard. I feel at home now. 👍

If anybody else uses this build, don't forget to grab the "extras.zip" on my github for extensions and themes. Link posted in previous post.

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Intel Leopard (Tiger too, for that matter) is a bit of a red headed step child. Any reason you’re running it and not Snow Leopard? Asking because a lot of these newer softwares for x86 are typically targeted to SL and can’t run on T or L.
I don't have a copy of snow leopard and when i try to update the updater says up to date.
 
You can get a free copy of Lion officially from Apple if you're on 64 bits actually (MacBook2,1 first version shipped with Tiger and is capable of updating).
But you also can get Snow Leopard from several archives, some of the in-the-scene well-known sources are trustworthy to download from ... and nobody -including apple- will judge you.
 
I agree that Tiger Intel required more effort than most things. I used to use it mainly in a VM on faster machines, to test Tiger things. And for building TenFourFox.

There are a few clang versions that build there, using MacPorts. IIRC, stock MacPorts builds up to clang-3.7 easily on Tiger Intel. I also built clang-5.0 and clang-7.0 on Tiger Intel with modest effort (a few hand-edited generated build files).

Hm, okay, I then underestimated how difficult it is to port to Intel Tiger. Sure, my 2006 iMac runs Snow Leopard fine, it’s just a subjective preference, but I’m totally fine dual-booting 10.6 for a properly working browser.
 
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