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klaus said:
There will be updates at or around the timeframe of WWDC (or else Apple will be in deep **** I think). But if they are 3.0 or "just" 2.5, none of us know.
Take a chill pill guys. SJ stated that they would have 3Ghz models in a year. It has not been a year yet! Not even close, if memory serves.

No one here knows what will be introduced at the WWDC. It is only speculation at this point.

My suggestion. Get what you need today based on what is available. If what you need is not available, then wait, or choose a lessor alternative today.

My guess is that the day the 3Ghz G5's models are introduced, people will start complaining about the 4Ghz models not being out and that we are behind. The cycle never seems to stop.

Sushi
 
[QUOTE/]The real news, though, is that IBM is not able to produce chips faster than 2.0 -- according to AppleInsider. It's not that they can't get to 3.0, they can't get to 2.8, 2.6, 2.4, or 2.2![/QUOTE]


remember when moto said they did not produce any chips higher than 1ghz when the dual 1.4ghz g4 was the fastest its because apple is buying them all
 
It's not just about the "cycle," though. I'm on a G4/733 that I upgraded to a Radeon 8500. My primary purpose is games, in which the video card and processing power are extremely important. It tends to be a long time between computers, since it's usually more effective to buy the best every 3 years (and maybe ugprade the graphics card) than to buy the bottom of the line every 2. The same graphics card that was the top of the line a year and a half ago or so is still the top of the line today...with new G5s, I'm hoping for a newer (hopefully 256 MB VRAM) and better graphics card as well as a significant boost in mhz.

It just feels "wrong" to buy an amazing computer a bit less than a year after it came out and have it replaced within a month or two, especially with the ancient graphics cards. Maybe my primary concern is for a new ATI or NVidia card, but the mhz will help too.
 

update, it could very well be a code update, fixing some bugs or something. The last time it was down, nothing was updated.. so I wouldn't get my hopes up to early, but then again, it's tuesday..
 
Helloooo new eMac . . . .

Not bad, I consider a pretty good machine now. 1.25 GHZ, Superdrive, $1000. I could appreciate that at that price.
 
Trowaman said:
Helloooo new eMac . . . .

Not bad, I consider a pretty good machine now. 1.25 GHZ, Superdrive, $1000. I could appreciate that at that price.

You're right, it is a good deal. (Wow, a good deal on an Apple?)
 
rdowns said:
As for the notion that a G5 can't go in the iMac before the PB, also "head up your ass" marketing. The users and markets for both are dissimilar. Desktop vs. portable.

I don't know if it's 100% "head up your ass" marketing but a little technical challenge thrown into the mix. If they can figure out how to cool a G5 for a laptop they can keep cool it in the iMac. The iMac and laptop share a lot of components and share the same heat problem limited space. The G5 case is taken up mostly by heatsinks and fans the iMac has little room for either.
 
ya know, since the eMac is now the same speed as the iMac, I' be willing to venture a guess that iMac speed bumps will come at the latest by WWDC. I mean, when was the last time eMacs and iMacs had the same processor in them?
 
CrackedButter said:
What other machine has been bumped up significantly in terms of Mhz since the G5 PowerMac was released other than the Xserve?

I have kinda bumped my G5 across a little...I moved it from the left side of the desk to the right side, under a bookshelf. Let's face it, if Apple isn't going to bump the G5s, then the users will have to start doing it.
 
proglife said:
You're right, it is a good deal. (Wow, a good deal on an Apple?)

Yeah, who'da thunk it?

Genius idea. They should market this baby like Dell does for their cheap stuff.

"The affordable Mac, and it does more than all those other cheap computers out there . . ."
 
:rolleyes:

Apple released a marshmallow for keeping us sweet until NAB !

2004-04-13 - Delay of G5
A source tested brings information to us on the causes of the delay of G5. There are 3 of them since January:
* thermal concerns for probes extinguished the machines with 27°C. It was solved during January
* ATI delayed to deliver the video charts. Solved since 3 weeks
* More serious. APPLE was obliged to dismount all the daughter cards of G5 and to return them in factory.
IBM discovered very tardily a problem on PPC 970FX. In the manufacturing process, an adhesive is used to assemble two layers. It is an innovation of process SSDOI. The adhesive used since the beginning of the manufacture of the processors worsens quickly with heat causing the break-in of the CPU. Since they modified the formula and started again the manufacture of the processors. But APPLE will have all to change them on its daughter cards.

http://croquer.free.fr/
 
arobasefr said:
:rolleyes:

Apple released a marshmallow for keeping us sweet until NAB !

2004-04-13 - Delay of G5
SNIP
* More serious. APPLE was obliged to dismount all the daughter cards of G5 and to return them in factory.
IBM discovered very tardily a problem on PPC 970FX. In the manufacturing process, an adhesive is used to assemble two layers. It is an innovation of process SSDOI. The adhesive used since the beginning of the manufacture of the processors worsens quickly with heat causing the break-in of the CPU. Since they modified the formula and started again the manufacture of the processors. But APPLE will have all to change them on its daughter cards.

http://croquer.free.fr/

Whoa, so what does this mean. Just delays? What about speed?
 
The real news, though, is that IBM is not able to produce chips faster than 2.0 -- according to AppleInsider. It's not that they can't get to 3.0, they can't get to 2.8, 2.6, 2.4, or 2.2!

Can someone tell me if this statement is in any way backed up by actual fact anywhere? Or is all the panic and IBM badmouthing I see just the result of this rumor? I think this is bovine fertilizer and we will hit 3GHz in stride just as predicted.
 
aswitcher said:
Whoa, so what does this mean. Just delays? What about speed?

The news from the French site and AppleInsider is contradictory. They both agree about several items, but are offering completely different rumors on the CPU front: the French site gave us some very appealing cpu speeds last week, and AppleInsider tells us that IBM can't make anything go faster than 2.0.

If the French site is right we should see new G5s before WWDC -- if AI is right we'll see new G5s after hell freezes over. Then again, they are only rumor sites. (By the way, when was the last time Macrumors had a rumor?)

EDIT: don't blame me for the rumor, Rastus, I was just passing on news from AppleInsider. My prediction was consistently that the new G5 would be announced in March.)
 
where did that eMac come from?

Doesn't the introduction of the new eMac prove that most of the rumour sites don't really have any "inside" information. We haven't heard anything recently about an eMac update, nor had we heard anything about iBook G4's prior to their release. Just a thought.
 
Patchr said:
Doesn't the introduction of the new eMac prove that most of the rumour sites don't really have any "inside" information. We haven't heard anything recently about an eMac update, nor had we heard anything about iBook G4's prior to their release. Just a thought.

Kinda sad, isn't it?
 
Rustus Maximus said:
Can someone tell me if this statement is in any way backed up by actual fact anywhere? Or is all the panic and IBM badmouthing I see just the result of this rumor? I think this is bovine fertilizer and we will hit 3GHz in stride just as predicted.
No facts but we do remember that Xserve was shown at 2.3 somewhere when it first came out and then changed. we also know that we didnt get any bumps after 6 months of production which i thought was very odd. I would say this looks like it could very well be the case. 1 thing that bothers me is the daughtercard issue. why would any parameters change simply on a die shrink? why would sensors read more heat from a cpu thats cooler. why would a duaghtercard need to be changed 970 fx vs 970?. what if Apple is using a dual core cpu or 2 cpu's under each sink? now that would explain a little of the sensor issues and daughtercard modifications. anyone say Quadra?
 
Patchr said:
Doesn't the introduction of the new eMac prove that most of the rumour sites don't really have any "inside" information. We haven't heard anything recently about an eMac update, nor had we heard anything about iBook G4's prior to their release. Just a thought.

You know what, your dead right! :D
 
Patchr said:
Doesn't the introduction of the new eMac prove that most of the rumour sites don't really have any "inside" information. We haven't heard anything recently about an eMac update, nor had we heard anything about iBook G4's prior to their release. Just a thought.

Ya know, I thought the same thing. But these rumor sites are fun to predict stuff, so ya know, enjoy it but take everything with a little salt. ESPECIALLY RUMORS STARTED WITHIN THE FORUMS!
 
Hmm Apple updates the least important (both financially and leadership-imagewise) machine, but does nothing to modernize the towers and notebooks. This is really strange.

And what's with the (alleged) causes of the delay? First GPUs then CPUs, then aluminium supply shortage, then CPUs again. This does not make sense at all.

What's next? Keyboard-paint-shortage? Lack of little rubber feet? QC problems on mounting screws?
:p
 
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