PowerMac G5 Update?

[NusuniAdmin]

how is this that wierd, lets look at ibooks. Before 1 ghz was top of the line ibook, now its low end. Same goes for powerbook. But yes i have to agree it is kinda strange to have a middle comp become low end. 2.0 single, dual 2.2 and dual 2.5 (.6?) would make more sense.

 

[CmdrLaForge]

Okay - think about this: What if Apple INCREASED the choices of Powermacs?

2.6 Dual (or 2.5)
2.4 Single
2.2 Single
2.0 Dual
1.8 Dual
1.8 Single

I know it's not a concept they've done before, but maybe it would help clear out more of the old processors too.

In fact - I think thats something we will see. BTW the graphic cards are lame.

Here I hoped for more.

 

[broken_keyboard]

I will be surprised if they have a single processor model. You think they would have learned their lesson from the original line-up when no one wanted the single proc.

 

[Sabbath]

If these were indeed the way the updates turn out i don't think it would spell well for something like an iMac G5 with say, single 1.8 & 2.0GHz options.

Yeah looks like the imac will be 1.6 otherwise the 1.8 single PM will be cheaply priced, which I can't see happening when it seems a G5 case replacement is $500

I'm sure people will be upset about this but do many of us really need that much computing power we just expect it. On the downside it seems the dual 2's will not become as cheap as many were hoping however, which could be a deal breaker for some. I'm sure Apple wants to differentiate its products a bit more, so I don't think 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 would be the best move on their part even if they had 2.6 chips. 1.8, 2.2 and 2.5 would seem about right to me but I'm sure they have a better idea of the market they face than any of us.

 

[klaus]

Yeah looks like the imac will be 1.6 otherwise the 1.8 single PM will be cheaply priced, which I can't see happening when it seems a G5 case replacement is $500

I'm sure people will be upset about this but do many of us really need that much computing power we just expect it. On the downside it seems the dual 2's will not become as cheap as many were hoping however, which could be a deal breaker for some. I'm sure Apple wants to differentiate its products a bit more, so I don't think 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 would be the best move on their part even if they had 2.6 chips. 1.8, 2.2 and 2.5 would seem about right to me but I'm sure they have a better idea of the market they face than any of us.

It's not about the fact that we don't need that much power, but all models besides the top 2.5, is just not different from the ones a year ago..

but hey, personally I don't believe the lineup will be that modest, every update they have done so far has been good, ibooks, powerbooks, emacs, so why dissapoint with their pride? the powermac?

 

[invaLPsion]

Up to 2.5 or 2.6GHz is fine with me, but I'd like to see a more powerfull middle end. Going from 2.0 - 2.5 is just stupid.

 

[freddiecable]

hm...clearing out inventory of 1.8 and 2 ghz-cpu's are we!?

apple sure knows how to milk the cow

 

[J-Squire]

how is this that wierd, lets look at ibooks. Before 1 ghz was top of the line ibook, now its low end. Same goes for powerbook. But yes i have to agree it is kinda strange to have a middle comp become low end. 2.0 single, dual 2.2 and dual 2.5 (.6?) would make more sense.

It is weird becuase, by your logic, the dual 2GHz should be the low end model (if we are to follow the trend of the iBooks and PowerBooks). But no, not even the Dual 1.8s are rumoured to be the low end, but a single 1.8!! It is very weird coz it's almost no movement from a year ago. dual 2.5GHz as a top is going to be a very nice improvement (even though I only recently gave up hope of a 3GHz), but the rest of the line will just be out of whack

 

[A Mac Gamer]

Graphics Card???

Why would Apple after 12 months still use the Nvidia 5200, that card should not be put in a POWERmac, especially after 12 months of having it in the low model.

I hope that Think Secret is wrong with these rumors.

 

[mingisback]

only a 500Mhz increase over 1 full year! SHEESH!!!!???!!!

no way i'm buyin yet... i didn't think they would hit the 3Ghz mark but, i was atleast hoping for a 2.8Ghz.

if this is true i'm very dissapointed.

don't even bother releasing a single 1.8Ghz. the bottom should be atlease 2.0Ghz.

c'mon!

 

[xy14]

Not everyone says..

Apple.GQ.NU says there is a price list for the 1.6, 1.8, 2, 2.2, 2.4, and 2.6 Ghz models. It also says they are all duals.

 

[tveric]

Why would Apple after 12 months still use the Nvidia 5200, that card should not be put in a POWERmac, especially after 12 months of having it in the low model.

I hope that Think Secret is wrong with these rumors.

What a crazy hope - after all, haven't ALL the G5 rumors in the past 6 months been completely true???

 

[MacsRgr8]

What is this.. new iMac models ???

 

[allroy]

Who doesn't need that much power...

Truth is time is money for people that use computers in a work enviornment and a tool. "Don't need that much power," That's about the lamest thing I've ever heard.

Would I be happy with a 2.5/6 G5, hell yeah, fastest Mac yet. Would I be dissappointed with the 3 GHZ not being unveiled, you bet! The reason is not based on purely speed, however on the stage of WWDC one year ago Steve said in 12 months you'll have 3GZ G5's, now for Steve to say something as bold as that, he had to have a very good reason, he didn't say within 18 months, it was 12.

I really can't see Apple releasing any of these RUMORED updates before WWDC. Even if Steve says the 3.0 is shipping in August, that's fine, but there will be a mention of it.

 

[Grimace]

Apple.GQ.NU says there is a price list for the 1.6, 1.8, 2, 2.2, 2.4, and 2.6 Ghz models. It also says they are all duals.

While that is a ray of hope, I think Apple will still keep a few singles around; maybe only in the 1.6/1.9 configs.

Seriously, I can't believe that ANYONE would take seriously a report that apple is going to do a product update - where only 1/3 of the line has a speed bump. that would be suicide.

Thinksecret can go back in its cave and check sources again.

 

[Sabbath]

It's not about the fact that we don't need that much power, but all models besides the top 2.5, is just not different from the ones a year ago..

but hey, personally I don't believe the lineup will be that modest, every update they have done so far has been good, ibooks, powerbooks, emacs, so why dissapoint with their pride? the powermac?

Sorry thats what I tried to imply by saying we expect better updates. All our preferences are based around a reference point and in this case most of our reference points for this update were 3GHz top end and maybe something around 2.3-2.5 bottom end a year ago. I think we've all had to let that slip down a bit but single1.8 to dual2.5 just doesn't seem enough to us.

 

[xtbfx]

I hope Apple offers all the old models:
Single 1.6
Single 1.8
Dual 1.8
Dual 2

Along with whatever the new configs are. That would give people a lot more choice, plus they could lower the price on the originals while putting the new Rev B models at the current price points (or maybe cutting a few hundred off the price).

I am a little dissapointed in those rumored specs, but once again, they are just rumors. Hopefully they will suprise us with a big speed bump and better graphic cards.

 

[pjkelnhofer]

So would a 2.5GHz have a FSB of 1250MHz?

I know this is not what we wanted, but I like the idea of Dual 1.8, 2.0 and 2.5 PowerMacs, and single proc 1.6 and 1.8 iMacs.
I wonder if this means that the price of the low end and high end will go up. Maybe $1999 for the Dual 1.8, $2499 for the Dual 2.0 and $3199 for the Dual 2.5. This goes well with the Rev. A 1.8's and 2.0's selling for $1800 and $2400 respectively.
Even though this would be a great PM lines a 25% increase in a year is not very impressive. So far IBM has not advanced the G5 very much. It is an amazing chip, but it needs to be able to move forward. Could this just be a stop gap until the next generation 97x is ready?

 

[brykken]

Thinksecret can go back in its cave and check sources again.

I don't know why, but that's really funny to me.

I really hope that those prices at applenews are accurate. If they are, I can expect a nice shiny 2.6 PM on my doorstep soon. Even if it's not, It'd be nice to get that price cut on the 2.0... Let's not forget, that it a GREAT machine!

 

[xy14]

APPLE.GQ.NU

While that is a ray of hope, I think Apple will still keep a few singles around; maybe only in the 1.6/1.9 configs.

Seriously, I can't believe that ANYONE would take seriously a report that apple is going to do a product update - where only 1/3 of the line has a speed bump. that would be suicide.

Thinksecret can go back in its cave and check sources again.

This web site that I mentioned earlier does have some pretty good prices. I only hope it's true.

 

[J-Squire]

I hope Apple offers all the old models:
Single 1.6
Single 1.8
Dual 1.8
Dual 2

Along with whatever the new configs are. That would give people a lot more choice, plus they could lower the price on the originals while putting the new Rev B models at the current price points (or maybe cutting a few hundred off the price).

I am a little dissapointed in those rumored specs, but once again, they are just rumors. Hopefully they will suprise us with a big speed bump and better graphic cards.

Yeah, great idea...give consumers some more choice. I really wish apple still sold the whole powerbook line. I'd love a brand new Powerbook G3 233! They could sell it for $150, I'm sure they'd make a fortune. That would make Apple much more popular amongst consumers.
?????

 

[eric67]

it is a real joke....

Thinksecret keeps postponing the release date of the future PMG5 revision...I mena if they do it everyday, one day it will be true
no just kidding...what a joke...really...here in Europe we have been looking at Apple store web site since 3 hours now on, and nothing special happened...I guess we will have to wait for the WWDC.
the last updated rumors from Thinksecret sounds really weird...I mean if Apple installs an GF5200 in a PMG5 even for the low-end model I am hoing to be really upset...at least 9600 and beyond; this is what should be in our PMG5...it is useless to have a powerfull computer if there is a crapy graphic card inside...

 

[BlueDjinn]

...Apple will continue to sell the current G5 models at a discount to clear existing inventory; the cut prices will reportedly be $1,599 for the 1.6GHz G5, $2,199 for the Dual-1.8GHz, and $2,499 for the Dual-2GHz model.

Hmmmm...ok, if this is true, the only pricing which would make sense would be something like:

Current SP 1.6 GHz: $1,599
New SP 1.8 GHz: $1,799

Current DP 1.8 GHz: $2,199
New DP 1.8 GHz: $2,299

Current DP 2.0 GHz: $2,499
New DP 2.0 GHz: $2,599

New DP 2.5 GHz: $3,199

Basically, if the specs & current-model pricing are correct, I presume that the new versions of the DP 1.8 and DP 2.0 models would be almost identical to the current ones, but with a faster Superdrive or better video card or whatever. In other words, all models except the new high-end would be just repackaged/repriced versions of the current ones.

The odd thing is the 500 MHz gap between the 2.0 and 2.5 GHz models...seems strange that they wouldn't have 2.2 and/or 2.4's in between there...?

 

[Frobozz]

ThinkSecret provides some more details on PowerMac G5 Updates.

According to the rumor site, the new machines should arrive in dual 2.5GHz, 2GHz and 1.8GHz models as well as an entry level single processor 1.8GHz model. ATI 9600 XT and NVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra graphics cards are to be offered.

ThinkSecret had warned that the bumps could be pushed back later this week. Indeed, one MacRumors source has indicated that the update may have been pushed back one day at the last minute.

Sounds like a big 'ole cr*p fest to me. I hope this isn't true.

 

[AliensAreFuzzy]

A feeling...

I just have this feeling that we're going to see something completely unexpected come with the new Powermacs.
I might be wrong, but who knows?