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hundenapf said:
G5 power supplise have 450W. look'n'buy

I've seen numbers over 600 watts for the G5 powersupply, but I think those were just calculated by multiplying out the amperage & voltage listed for the machine. That wouldn't account for the inefficiency of the powersupply (typically good powersupplies are about 65% efficient).

450 W of power to the motherboard seems about rite.
 
sblasl said:
The current shipping G5's are Rev. B's, excluding the speed bumps. There have been numerous changes made by Apple to the current G5's since the were originally released.

I really find all of this very amusing...

And those would be...?
 
So much for a good reason

ffakr said:
I've seen numbers over 600 watts for the G5 powersupply, but I think those were just calculated by multiplying out the amperage & voltage listed for the machine. That wouldn't account for the inefficiency of the powersupply (typically good powersupplies are about 65% efficient).

450 W of power to the motherboard seems about rite.


Well so much for a good reason to limit quality of vidoe card...Apple has no idea how to please its customers. TOL should be TOL. From video card to processor... all the best I say.

Well at lest once can lower card qality, save money and then upgrade to X800 on their own.

(TOL - top of line)
 
if this setup is true, dual 1.8, 2.0, & 2.5's, then it is dissappointing. it's nobody's fault, but it is dissappointing. its like the movie that has a lot of hype, and looks awesome in the trailer, and then when you see it, its ok.
its not that i'm dissappointed in general with apple, actually i thin they're done a wonderful job, coming back from near bankruptcy, in the late 90's.
but steve did promise 3Ghz, and it is dissappointing that, after an entire year of no updates, it wouldn't even be close (2.5Ghz).
2.5Ghz is fine...a dual 2.5 Ghz is an awesome machine in fact. i wish i could afford one right now. ist just that apple was doing such a great job of catching up (perception of everyone else) to intel, interms of speed. i know the dual 2.5Ghz would kick tyhe crap out of intel;'s best right now, but from the shareholder's point of view, and investors, and the layman in general, apple is behind.

my 2 cents....

-dornball
 
like "whatever"

dude thay promised a f**kin 3 gz, whatever i still want one.
Hey i still wanna no about that imac on that drug... whats its callled... oh ya... G5 :)
 
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maybe Apple is having trouble updating their site. Wasn't iTunes 4.6 supposed to be posted yesterday also?


wishful thinking, i know, but i couldn't resist :)
 
well, I'm just happy I checked out macrumors today and got wind of that rumor. so I was able to cancel my dual 1800 order I was scheduled to pickup that afternoon for 2500euros (2800$). Man, that would have been a bummer, wouldn't it?!
 
I have to admit, I'm a bit out of the loop, I'm far too busy solving simultaneous equations. At what time of day does Apple update their pages to reflect new items, in GMT? I need a new G5 ASAP, the numbers in my simultaneous equations are getting out of hand and 64-bits will do the trick!
 
What I'm wondering is, the current top GPU for the PowerMac is a BTO Radeon 9800 Pro, after 10 months, assuming the non-BTO is a 9600XT and the BTO is a 9800XT...that just seems...well unimpressive? What would be even remotely impressive would be an AIW 9800XT, but I still think upgrading from Pro to XT in 10 months isn't all that spectacular. I'm more excited about the AE and Tiger than I am about the PowerMacs, it should be the other way around. :(
 
ProfSBrown said:
I have to admit, I'm a bit out of the loop, I'm far too busy solving simultaneous equations. At what time of day does Apple update their pages to reflect new items, in GMT? I need a new G5 ASAP, the numbers in my simultaneous equations are getting out of hand and 64-bits will do the trick!

The AirTunes device was released, apparently, at noon Central Standard Time yesterday.
I think we won't get an announcement today. I believe Thinksecret said it slipped to tomorrow. I'd give it one more day than assume WWDC.

I did have a thought today.. It looks like Apple is stringing out a whole bunch of releases to build up for WWDC. Hardware yesterday, maybe the G5 tomorrow. It looks like iTunes Europe will be next Tuesday.
IF Apple is actually trying to do a sustained shock and awe of product releases for 3 full weeks, I'd expect we'll see an iMac bump.. maybe iTunes Canada.. maybe xGrid (currently at Preview 2).. new monitors?
how could they sustain 2-3 releases per week for another 2 1/2 weeks?
 
ffakr said:
I did have a thought today.. It looks like Apple is stringing out a whole bunch of releases to build up for WWDC. Hardware yesterday, maybe the G5 tomorrow. It looks like iTunes Europe will be next Tuesday.
IF Apple is actually trying to do a sustained shock and awe of product releases for 3 full weeks, I'd expect we'll see an iMac bump.. maybe iTunes Canada.. maybe xGrid (currently at Preview 2).. new monitors?
how could they sustain 2-3 releases per week for another 2 1/2 weeks?

Not only that, but you end up thinking 'what the hell are they going to talk about at WWDC?'. They won't just regurgitate whats been released in the upcoming weeks surely, so they've obviuosly got some massive great, earth shattering, world-changing stuff to talk about :D
 
For everyone saying that this isn't possible because of the 1250 MHz bus speed, I thought that the G5's bus speed wasn't going to scale beyond 1 GHz. If so, that would make the 2.5 more logical than a 2.6- you get 2.5 GHz from a 1 GHz bus and a 2.5 multiplier. And, come to think of it, you can get 2 GHz from a 2.5 multiplier and a 800 MHz bus...
 
Frobozz said:
I think you may be on to something. It was Think Secret that actually said their information in a previous (non-G5 related) post may have been, in part, a way to weed out snitches. If the information released matches a false release then they know it boils down to the people in the chain of command for the faked/modified release.

It could be that this is a way for Apple to find out who's leaking specs before they actually release something. Or, it could all be true.

Exactly. Two to three different rumor sites all getting slightly different 'imminent upgrade info' on the same day. Sounds like Apple is using this comming update to try and flush out the rat's.

The article was on appleinsider, the 'retail store revenue to double in 2005'. "On a side note, reliable sources warned that Apple may have varied some of the figures presented at the meetings (on a store to store basis) in an effort to flush out media leaks from its Apple Retail employees.
 
Hector said:
a dual 2.5GHz g5 will kick any dual opteron's @ss into the stone age.


*blinks* huh?

The fastest contemporaneous Opterons will be faster than the 2.5GHz G5 for most things, with the exception of DSP codes (which the PPC97x rocks at), unless IBM and Apple dramatically re-engineered the system between the 2.0GHz and the 2.5GHz version of the processors. And Opteron SMP scales much better than PPC SMP currently.

It isn't a competition. Apple's strength is its OS, which makes a superior workstation environment.
 
so....
I want my damn dual 1.8 g5 already. when are they dropping the price for this? when are they going to be available?
i never had enough money gor a 3ghz anyway so bring on the price drop!!
do i still have to wait for wwdc?
 
Macrumors said:
ThinkSecret provides some more details on PowerMac G5 Updates.

According to the rumor site, the new machines should arrive in dual 2.5GHz, 2GHz and 1.8GHz models as well as an entry level single processor 1.8GHz model. ATI 9600 XT and NVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra graphics cards are to be offered.
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Now that's not right, why in the world would they be sticking in GPU cards that are more than a year old? At the very least the ATI 9800 should be in the low end, and hopefully the newer x300 or x600 (dare I request the x800?) in the higher end models.

Also, no mention of mobo upgrades...if this is the best Apple can do, I guess I'll hold off another year or so to upgrade my aging system. Maybe by then G4 xserves will get cheap ;)
 
hundenapf said:
G5 power supplise have 450W. look'n'buy

Uh! And the big boys (dual) even have 600/650 watts... no wonder your mums gettin angry...hello electricity bills...
Big Block of power

No, the power supplies are actually different according to which G5 model you are talking about. I will send you a link with all the different model specs from the Apple site on request; I just have to find it again.
 
ProfSBrown said:
Not only that, but you end up thinking 'what the hell are they going to talk about at WWDC?'

Tiger and the G5 iMac. A minor speed bump to the towers isn't worth mentioning.
 
Bradley W said:
This rumor is most likely true, but at WWDC they will release another update with 3gh.

After WWDC:

2.6 gh
2.8 gh
3.0 gh

Just wait and see. If Apple does release an update now, do not buy it... wait till after WWDC.

NO WAY - Apple would not be crazy enough to release two updgrades to the same model within a few weeks of each other. What in the world would be the logic behind this? And what a disaster for retail, etc.!
 
64-bits will have to wait

ProfSBrown said:
the numbers in my simultaneous equations are getting out of hand and 64-bits will do the trick!

These are still 32-bit OS X systems.... No change from today's OS X.

An Apple employee told me that the roadmap for 64-bit support will be announced at WWDC.

And yes, he said "roadmap" to be announced, and not "64-bit OS X" to be announced.
 
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