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I forgot to add Norton to the 670 Precision as well. I also forgot to add a good operating system, not to mention some decent video, audio and dvd authoring software which is free on the Mac
 
eoliver said:
Even Apple is not too excited about the upgrades to the new power mac line-up. Look on the home page, only a little box giving a link to the new specs. Everything Apple does anymore is tied up to the i-pod! It has been on the homepage masthead since last October.
Apple should go back to its roots! Computers!

Yeah, it's not like apple.com is dominated by the latest release of their computer operating system...

Oh wait. :rolleyes:
 
JRM PowerPod said:
A 200mhz increase is disappointing to say the least. So is having no DDR2, SLi, PCI-Express, Blu-Ray or Dual Core.

But can we have a look at the beasts on offer now and compare
Say lets give $5000 for the PowerMac and $5000 for the Dell Precision 670

Would you prefer A) or B)

• Dual 2.7GHz PowerPC G5
• 4GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 4x512
• 250GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
• nVidia Geforce 6800 Ultra 256mb
• Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
• 16x SuperDrive double-layer (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

For US$5098 - 13% for edu

OR THIS DELL

Dell Precision Workstation 670
-Dual 3.6GHZ XEON (Dual 3.6 gets raped by the G5 in productive usage) (maybe not in solitaire though)
-2GB DDR400
-250GB
-64MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro NVS 280, Dual VGA Capable
-Dell 2005FPW
-16X Dual Layer DVD RW

for a measly US$5310

Not too bad $300 cheaper, way better processors, twice the memory, way better graphics, a good looking display.

The Dell just got bashed. Sorry to all you Dell loving people but your machines aren't comparable. I've got a good idea, why don't you start up dellrumours.com and whinge about why their systems are inept


Well Put.
And Remember, We'll be running Tiger/Unix/And High quality software.
Dell, wil be hand-tied by Anti-Everything and Windows XP SP2 which has gotten slower.
 
Looking alot the Imac

I havent read the entire set of articles and i AM a newbie... But arent the low end PowerMacs pretty much expandable Imac G5s without a screen?

Cheers,
ini
 
If I buy a power mac g5 from the refurbished discount section of the online apple store will I be able to go back and place another order under the academic education store and buy an apple care for it with that discount of the education store. The apple care will of course be for this PM G5. I already tried to combine the store cart as one but it didn't work so i think I will have to do to seperate orders. Will having two seperate orders not allow me to get the apple care for this new machine? or do I have 90days to get a apple care plan?

Thanks in advance
-Scott
 
saxmonster said:
If I buy a power mac g5 from the refurbished discount section of the online apple store will I be able to go back and place another order under the academic education store and buy an apple care for it with that discount of the education store. The apple care will of course be for this PM G5. I already tried to combine the store cart as one but it didn't work so i think I will have to do to seperate orders. Will having two seperate orders not allow me to get the apple care for this new machine? or do I have 90days to get a apple care plan?

Thanks in advance
-Scott

Not sure about the acedemic thing, but my friend bought his Apple Care a few months after picking up his refurb G5. If I'm recalling correctly, you actually have a year to purchase AppleCare; Can some one clarify?

<]=)
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
2. Some other feature or combination of features that will wow all Mac users and at least some of the non-Mac users. I just can't pin down what that is, though.

An Apple-branded 2-button mouse. :D
 
JackAxe said:
Not sure about the academic thing, but my friend bought his Apple Care a few months after picking up his refurb G5. If I'm recalling correctly, you actually have a year to purchase AppleCare; Can some one clarify?

<]=)

Yes, you have within the first year of ownership to purchase AppleCare. The free phone call to Apple is only good for the first 90 days. That availability is also important. Also would hate to be late on the purchase.
 
drop the u and

JRM PowerPod said:
...[snip]
The Dell just got bashed. Sorry to all you Dell loving people but your machines aren't comparable. I've got a good idea, why don't you start up dellrumours.com and whinge about why their systems are inept


Speak of the devil ...
 
Trouble deciding...

I have been waiting to buy a new G5 until the update. Now I am just having trouble deciding whether to get the new dual 2.3 edu 2498 or a dual 2.5 on sale edu 2698, or even a refurbished 2.5 for 2299. I am going to do all the RAM upgrades myself and am just going to purchase the mac as is. I will be using it for video editing and effects work.

Suggestions???
 
2.5

davizod said:
I have been waiting to buy a new G5 until the update. Now I am just having trouble deciding whether to get the new dual 2.3 edu 2498 or a dual 2.5 on sale edu 2698, or even a refurbished 2.5 for 2299. I am going to do all the RAM upgrades myself and am just going to purchase the mac as is. I will be using it for video editing and effects work.

Suggestions???

Hell, it is the same computer, but different processors and the Dual-Layer. It's not like you can't get a Dual-Layer anyways. Also, the 2.5's have Liquid cooling, and the 2.3's have air cooling. If one or the other bugs you, it narrows it down to one. If it doesn't, I'd say get a refurbished 2.5: cheaper and is obviously clocked faster with a faster bus. You can spend the extra $200+ on RAM and such. Just my 2 cents. PS, these updates suck. -JB
 
davizod said:
I have been waiting to buy a new G5 until the update. Now I am just having trouble deciding whether to get the new dual 2.3 edu 2498 or a dual 2.5 on sale edu 2698, or even a refurbished 2.5 for 2299. I am going to do all the RAM upgrades myself and am just going to purchase the mac as is. I will be using it for video editing and effects work.

Suggestions???

I would go with the refurb 2.5, if you don't need the dule layer drive. I have brought 2 refurb Apples and have had good success.
With the 2.5 refurb you get close to top of the line performance, at less than a mid range price. Even if you brought an extra hd it would still be the best deal.
 
Snark said:
What you're missing is that these are *speed* bumps as well as feature bumps. The old 2.0 DP wasn't "crippled" and dropped to the DP entry level slot; it got a speed bump to 2.3Ghz along with the feature bumps. What was the 1.8DP got a speed bump to 2 Ghz and feature tweaks.

The old model of the 2.0 DP machine has been discontinued and has been *replaced* by the 2.3Ghz machine.

Snark

I guess that is one way of looking at it, and I respect that. To me it just looks like the Dual 1.8 was discontinued, and the 2.0 was shifted down to the low end model. But however it was intended by the market, the fact remains that the new 2.0 has slightly less features then the old model.
 
are these the g5's that are under that save red tag sign on the apple site? could these just be over stock since the news ones just got announced?

also how does the apple care thing work you just fill out the info online or on a card and send it in once you have you apple box and the stuff in it?

it been a while since i did it on my dual g4 500mhz looking to buy a refurbished ibook on the refurbished store and then do another order with an academic discount for the apple care and an aiportextreame.

the two store won't let you combine orders.

do you think this will work, I will can them tomorrow to see if i have to by the apple care on the same order so i don't loose the phone support after 90 days.

-Scott
 
now that i think about it, apple probly had this update ready to go in like january, or even december, just had to take 3 or 4 months thinking about how to announce this crap. oh well. i feel kinda tricked with all the hype of dual dual core and stuff. a really bad (and late) april fools joke. but i'm confident that apple will come back roaring with stuff that'll blow our minds.
 
fps said:
It's quite simple in fact, if you want better prices, better upgrade capabilities, better choice then please go the x86 route and use Windows (good for gaming) and/or Linux/FreeBSD.
If you want a nice combo hardware/software then get a Mac.

I trully believe the only reason people are bitching is not that they need more power but rather because they feel they can't put one down on the x86 users because now Apple has the better/faster hardware...

Kind of sad really.

I did go the X86 route and then 3 months later Apple bought Emagic, and within a year they came out with some fantastic Logic upgrades that I could not resist. I'm a Logic user first and a Mac user second. If Apple is forcing me to use their hardware so I can run my sequencer, then I want the best. Apple has a history of springing next generation chips on people, and thereby making users that buy a $3000 machine one month feel like they got gipped. In the PC world at least you know what intel has coming done the pipeline and no company can hide upcoming technology from you. I wish we had the same transparency with Apple. If I knew that in January a 3.0 ghz G5 would come out, I'd probably buy a machine now. But we don't know anything, in September Apple could come out with a dual dual core machine for $3000 and every who buy a machine this summer might feel a bit IIFXed.
 
LGRW3919 said:
now that i think about it, apple probly had this update ready to go in like january, or even december, just had to take 3 or 4 months thinking about how to announce this crap. oh well. i feel kinda tricked with all the hype of dual dual core and stuff. a really bad (and late) april fools joke. but i'm confident that apple will come back roaring with stuff that'll blow our minds.

Who knows if and when they were finally ready to ship these. The fact remains that Apple did not mislead you, the other rumor sites spreading Dual core rumors caused the disappointment in many.

I am sure they are coming, but not necessarily next week.
 
refurbished systems

How are the mac refurbished systems? I am looking into a refurbished dual 2.5.

Which is better liquid cooling or air cooling?
 
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