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PowerMac G5s - on or around Jan 20th?
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I'm more curious about when they will ship. It took a long time to ship the G5 2Ghz (due in part to VT). It wouldn't suprise me at all to see 2.5 or 2.6 Ghz G5's in a few weeks.
As for those of you who are dreaming about apple hardware and software, wow - perhaps you are spending too much time on these boards!
As for those of you who are dreaming about apple hardware and software, wow - perhaps you are spending too much time on these boards!
That's great news, if true. I want to buy one of those! I'm hoping that the new PowerMac G5s ship within 1-2 weeks. That, for me, would be ideal.
Re: Re: jan 20
http://www.apple.com/xserve/cluster/wgcluster.html
Quote from apple.com:
"Do-It-Yourself Cluster
You dont have to be a computer scientist to set up a fully functioning UNIX-based computational cluster. Apple has assembled the parts you need in one easy-to-set up, easy-to-use cluster powerhouse. In about 30 minutes youll be ready to run BLAST, HMMER, fasta and more from a powerful, easy-to-use Web interface the setup process installs over 200 bioinformatics applications on your cluster. "
This is a key piece of their strategy to move units - prebuilt mini-supercomuters. That's why all the people whining about Steve's keynote address and how the xserve's didn't mean squat don't understand what Apple's up to. The G5's were already out - how many news articles would be written about a 10% speed bump?
Now mini supercomputers, on the other hand ...
Who needs to put it together? Apple's already done that for you.
http://www.apple.com/xserve/cluster/wgcluster.html
Quote from apple.com:
"Do-It-Yourself Cluster
You dont have to be a computer scientist to set up a fully functioning UNIX-based computational cluster. Apple has assembled the parts you need in one easy-to-set up, easy-to-use cluster powerhouse. In about 30 minutes youll be ready to run BLAST, HMMER, fasta and more from a powerful, easy-to-use Web interface the setup process installs over 200 bioinformatics applications on your cluster. "
This is a key piece of their strategy to move units - prebuilt mini-supercomuters. That's why all the people whining about Steve's keynote address and how the xserve's didn't mean squat don't understand what Apple's up to. The G5's were already out - how many news articles would be written about a 10% speed bump?
Now mini supercomputers, on the other hand ...
Question: Why in the World is Apple & Apple Resellers - Blowing Out SP 1.8 at prices lower than SP 1.6? Why would Apple Get rid of the 1.8 and keep the 1.6? Seems like the 1.6 should be blowing out, right? Whats the reason behind this thinking?
By the way, talked to a guy a works for Apple and he told me - NO WAY any New Processors ANY TIME this month.
By the way, talked to a guy a works for Apple and he told me - NO WAY any New Processors ANY TIME this month.
Well I talked to a guy from Apple and he said "YES WAY" to the announcement.Originally posted by TranceClubMusic
Question: Why in the World is Apple & Apple Resellers - Blowing Out SP 1.8 at prices lower than SP 1.6? Why would Apple Get rid of the 1.8 and keep the 1.6? Seems like the 1.6 should be blowing out, right? Whats the reason behind this thinking?
By the way, talked to a guy a works for Apple and he told me - NO WAY any New Processors ANY TIME this month.
Tranceclubmusic:
I tend to disagree for two reasons:
1. This from macosrumors:
Senior Apple personalities who have been roaming the show floor post-keynote have been overheard pointedly dropping hints of an Apple event later in the month that will update the PowerMac G5 and at least one other Mac along with it -- and the upgrades will be "even more ambitious than what the rumor sites would have you expect"....
2. I want to believe new ones will come out shortly ;-)
I tend to disagree for two reasons:
1. This from macosrumors:
Senior Apple personalities who have been roaming the show floor post-keynote have been overheard pointedly dropping hints of an Apple event later in the month that will update the PowerMac G5 and at least one other Mac along with it -- and the upgrades will be "even more ambitious than what the rumor sites would have you expect"....
2. I want to believe new ones will come out shortly ;-)
So true, I was at the Apple Store Soho for the live Keynote last night, and they employees were as surprised as we were, and they were whispering about prices, and they were surprised when SJ announced them too.
They're as in the dark as we are.
This is my first post here and I am a future switcher. I have no idea what it is to be a mac head. I believe that apple will release a 2.2 and maybe the 2.4. Drop the SP 1.6 and make the DP 1.8 the base model and set back selling prices by 5-7% on the existing systems from what they are at now. It is difficult to say with apple. I work repairing Wintel machines at PC Club so this switch is a big thing for me. I have been on wondows/linux machines sne I was 11, I am 18 now. I am hoping that this G5 upgrade will happen because if it does I will be switching for sure. I just sold my car tonight to pay for a G5 but I am waiting to see what move apple is to make. also any word of Cinema Display updates too?
I can't say I agree that the 1.8DP will be the bottom of the line w/ just a 7% drop in price
This would put the low end Mac PM at over $2K
This would put the low end Mac PM at over $2K
Dude, selling your car to get a G5 *absolutely* qualifies you as a mac head!
And you will not regret it!Small Dog uses Jan. 20 date
Small Dog lists Jan. 20 as the inventory due date for their discount 1.8 Ghz units (spec'ed better than the more expensive 1.8 in stock), whereas all the other shipping units state number of days until delivery.
Just a coincidence that that's when they're receiving these "old" units?
http://www.smalldog.com/category/x/x/Power+Macintosh/g5+minitower/wag100/wag10000/
Small Dog lists Jan. 20 as the inventory due date for their discount 1.8 Ghz units (spec'ed better than the more expensive 1.8 in stock), whereas all the other shipping units state number of days until delivery.
Just a coincidence that that's when they're receiving these "old" units?
http://www.smalldog.com/category/x/x/Power+Macintosh/g5+minitower/wag100/wag10000/
yeah, all these people keep saying, "i talked to some guy who works at the pretzel shop next to an Apple store in Podunk, Idaho & he said that G5 updates are fer'sure coming this month"...whatever.
i worked for Apple on the 1 Infinite Loop campus a couple years ago & unless you were WORKING on the project, you were just as surprised & delighted at Macworlds to see the new stuff coming out as everyone else. i don't see how a store manager could have any better info than the next person except maybe what products are in short supply, in which case you could make your best guess as to what's coming down the pike.
Apple is VERY tight-lipped on product updates & for good reason. i got to go to a meeting where it was me, my manager & Johnny Ive reviewing the website i designed (talk about nerve-racking). we were in the Green Valley 4 bldg (or whatever it's called, i've forgotten), where all the top-secret product design is done. there's no sign on the building, no lobby, you have to be let into the front door. most of the inside of the building is behind more walls & doors. you couldn't see crap worth of anything new or upcoming. so if someone at the local Apple store says they know what's coming, i think they're full of it. it's fun reading rumors & guessing what Apple is about to pull out of their hat, but the people that really know aren't going to say too much...
From what I have read on the forum, I don't put too much stock into what TranceClubMusic or pgwalsh found out from an Apple guy. Experience says that many don't know any more than anyone else. What we know for sure is the Steve said a lot more is coming in 2004. It has been 6 months since the G5 was introduced, so we are due for an upgrade. The 24th will be the 20th anniversary of the Mac. So clearly the upgrade is due shortly.
Faster G5 - I swear it!
I was NOT kidding - I swear to Steve Jobs (aka God) I WAS talking to MYSELF one day in the mall that only had a Radio Shack store - no pretzle stand or surf city squeeze for Apple Execs to hang out at at let 'seekrits' fly..., and I guarantee it, swear a blood oath, and hope to have to go back to dial up internet connections and then die.... that there will be faster G5s in the future!
I was NOT kidding - I swear to Steve Jobs (aka God) I WAS talking to MYSELF one day in the mall that only had a Radio Shack store - no pretzle stand or surf city squeeze for Apple Execs to hang out at at let 'seekrits' fly..., and I guarantee it, swear a blood oath, and hope to have to go back to dial up internet connections and then die.... that there will be faster G5s in the future!
Question-
If I were to go into an Apple Store this weekend and buy a dual 1.8, is there any sort of Apple-sponsored arrangement which would allow me to return or upgrade should the new PowerMacs come out in the near future?
I seem to remember seeing people discuss this recently, but I can't find references to it now.
My B/W G3 400 (with only max RAM and an extra FW card b/c of the crazy on-board FW ports, no G4 upgrade) is getting pretty long in the tooth, and I'd love to pick up the new 1.8 and not wait out the upgrades (yet still have some limited protection if there is an update soon).
Yes, I want to have my cake and eat it too.
If I were to go into an Apple Store this weekend and buy a dual 1.8, is there any sort of Apple-sponsored arrangement which would allow me to return or upgrade should the new PowerMacs come out in the near future?
I seem to remember seeing people discuss this recently, but I can't find references to it now.
My B/W G3 400 (with only max RAM and an extra FW card b/c of the crazy on-board FW ports, no G4 upgrade) is getting pretty long in the tooth, and I'd love to pick up the new 1.8 and not wait out the upgrades (yet still have some limited protection if there is an update soon).
Yes, I want to have my cake and eat it too.
Re: Faster G5 - I swear it!
Hey iriejedi, what's up with the jumbled spelling and punctuation in this post? It's kind of hard to read for me. I agree that there will be faster G5s, but like everyone else have no idea exactly when they'll come.
Hey iriejedi, what's up with the jumbled spelling and punctuation in this post? It's kind of hard to read for me. I agree that there will be faster G5s, but like everyone else have no idea exactly when they'll come.
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I have a BW G3 400 too and have Firewire Port issues.. What's the deal with this?
I would have PM'd this, but you have it turned off.
I have a BW G3 400 too and have Firewire Port issues.. What's the deal with this?
Regardless of who knows whats comming up and who doesnt - really is pointless - My real question was why Apple would dump a 1.8 blow them out at under $1,500.00 (all over the Internet everyone is blowing them out at lower prices then 1.6) and KEEP the 1.6?? Isnt this backwards?? Shouldnt the 1.6 be on its death bed NOT the 1.8??
Not if Apple has to clear out it's inventory of 1.8 CPUs.Originally posted by TranceClubMusic
Regardless of who knows whats comming up and who doesnt - really is pointless - My real question was why Apple would dump a 1.8 blow them out at under $1,500.00 (all over the Internet everyone is blowing them out at lower prices then 1.6) and KEEP the 1.6?? Isnt this backwards?? Shouldnt the 1.6 be on its death bed NOT the 1.8??
There are contractual orders - Apple can't just ship back 10,000 CPUs that IBM manufactured esp. for them, saying, "oops, we didn't need them after all."
So they may have thought demand for 1.8 duals would be higher than it actually turned out to be, while having made a better estimation of 1.6 demand and thus not have such a glut of them in stock.
Hence if the low end for the new lineup is a 2.0, Apple will have to move all the "overstocked" CPU units - but there may be far less 1.6's to move than 1.8's.
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