Discussion in 'MacRumors News Discussion (archive)' started by arn, May 20, 2002.

  1. arn macrumors god


    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    MacOSRumors provides some hints at upcoming PowerMac updates.

    The details, however, are relatively vague... of most note include the possibilities of 6 PCI Slots, new enclosure, and up to 1.4ghz Duals at MWNY.

    iMac updates are discussed as well, with an ever-favorite topic - 17" iMac screens - rumored.
  2. TyleRomeo macrumors 6502a

    Mar 22, 2002
    New York
    Frankly, i'm excited. The more rumors about specs helps all of to slowly put together the pieces on the new Power Macs.

    new case
    6 PCI slots (i now have plenty of room for my USB 2.0 )

    One thing not mentioned was the Super Drive?
    i've heard rumors of an upgraded one but not they seem to have died down. anyone have any idea about that?
  3. arn thread starter macrumors god


    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2001

    I suppose... but did you read it? They were incredibly wishy-washy on the specs... everything was "may or may not" etc....

  4. 3rdpath macrumors 68000


    Jan 7, 2002
    2nd star on the right and straight till morning

    mosr is getting good mileage out of the term "rumor" on this one( and i like mosr). with the powermac intro just weeks away( i hope...) it doesn't really do anyone any favors by being this vague. oh well, time will tell.
  5. DannyZR2 macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2001
    I would be VERY happy if we saw two dual configurations.. .. I mean. it does make sense.. and would help apple push developers to make mp-aware apps.. but I'm afraid to ask how much green would it take to get one of em???:confused:

    I am very anxious to see the new enclosure that has been talked about ... i'm thinking they're gonna play around with the titanium look.. like the new xserve and tibooks. and with the new architecture of the xserve .. i can't WAIT to see what the new Mo-Bo is gonna look like and how easy it'll be to get the thing open and put in new stuff in either of the 6 PCI slots!!!

    amazed am i
  6. atodd macrumors member

    Jan 28, 2002
    between yourself
    That should be "Amazed I am", if you want the correct Yoda syntax.

    I would REALLY like a new enclosure. The current one is getting veeeeery dated. Dual 1.4GHz! That would be nice.
  7. emdezet macrumors member

    Feb 12, 2002
    cologne, germany
    Current and next generation G4 minitowers

    Yes, it all makes sense.
    When the current (marginally improved) G4 minitowers were introduced, I understood right away, these machines would help Apple earn some easy money to be spent on developments towards Rapid I/O, DDR integration and the G5, e.g.

    Now Apple sell these minitowers as trade-ins for PowerMacs 5xxx, 7xxx, 8xxx and 9xxx with nice price reductions. So the next generation must be up.

    Well, DDR is running in the XServe, G5 is apparently still way out of sight and so seems to be Rapid I/O. Last I heard the latter technologies will be presented in the same machine.

    All I'm wondering now: Will the new entry level G4 minitower be as affordable as the 800MHz is? On one of those 1GHz+ suckers Jag with QE should just scream! But I don't want to pay too much for 6 PCI-slots, 5 of which I would probably never use, because all I need is implemented on-board!
  8. DannyZR2 macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2001

    geez... star wars is taking over the world.. who said i wanted to sound like yoda.. which even yoda didn't sound like yoda in the new movie. i was dissappointed in his speech.. but very impressed with the rest...

    anyway.. curious if they'll continue to drop off the L3 cache in the entry level.. (1ghz with no L3 cache is like ... ya know... 1ghz with no L3 cache!)
  9. JtheLemur macrumors 6502

    May 13, 2002
    oh please fer the love o' god a new case. =)

    I'd buy it if they put the current Dual 1GHz into a new case. As cynical as I am toward Motorola (and Apple's inability to kick them into gear... see? cynical! =) I need a new computer for pro work, but the El Capitan.... it served it's purpose well, but it needs to go!

    -- justin
  10. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    'An 8X AGP graphics slot rounds out a full seven beautiful expansion possibilities just waiting for the professional to drool over.'

    Now that's interesting, because according to Nvidia, an 8x AGP card won't be available till 2003. Does anyone else sell 8x cards?

    This is really sounding like a sweet machine, and if they have all that extra hardware space (6 pci slots) it will be a monster! Although if they move the power supply out of the case (Cube) it gives them enough room. I can't wait to see it.

    So we know Time Canada won't have a picture a day before the show, maybe Time Mexico?:D
  11. mmmdreg macrumors 65816


    Apr 14, 2002
    Sydney, Australia
    Those specs certainly aren't bad..and whats more? they actually sound credible...MOSR is usually as accurate as rumor sites can get so they may be right once again...
  12. robotrenegade macrumors 6502a

    Apr 16, 2002
    This new Power Mac is going to be very nice. I’m waiting for Jaguar to be released before I pick one of these up (I rather have 10.2 installed then have to upgrade). I heard a rumor from a reliable source that the new towers come with Jaguar and the G5 chip!!!
  13. eddively macrumors newbie

    May 11, 2002
    Eagan , MN
    actually, the Matrox card parphelia or something weird like that is supposedly able to saturate enough bandwith to make AGPx8 worth it. VIA just announced a little bit ago a Mobo with AGPx8 and DDR333, so this is a good step in Apple's direction.
  14. Silver Dragon macrumors member

    May 7, 2002
    If that's what your source said, then they are not very reliable at all.

    Why would Apple release a rack server with a G4 only to up the towers to a G5 2 months later? Since the G5 is supposed to be a great server chip with great SMP capabilities, this does not make any sense. If we get new towers (and all signs point to 'yes') they will be G4 and *might* have a new enclosure (although I think the G4 case is very nice as it is. One of the best an the market. Why mess with a good thing?)

    Besides, even if the G5 comes out... WHO CARES?
  15. gjohns01 macrumors member

    Jan 9, 2002

    You're joking right? We'll be lucky to see Jaguar in September let alone MWNY. There will be no G5s anytime soon. Try 2003. There will be no Firewire 2, no USB2, no ATA/133, and no AGP8x delivered at MWNY. Stop getting your hopes up because they'll be dashed on the rocks below.
  16. Grokgod macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2002
    Deep within the heart of madness!
    No Not again.

    Amazed I am ! that anyone would try that G5 tactic again!

    Its like the oldest fighting move in the book, like a telegraphed rabbit punch.


    No! there will be NO G5 any time soon, I think that every one knows this, because it would have been in the servers.
    I am just thanking the force that there will be DDR ram, so long in the making that its like the second coming, hopefully this will justify Apple to place it in a new case that will get a color change or something for the G5. When or if it ever comes.

    Its come to the point that any G5 talk just irritates me.
  17. Kid Red macrumors 65816

    Dec 14, 2001
    MOSR is so full of crap they start out saying-

    then finish by saying

    They can't even agree on the entry level. So is it 1.33ghz or 1.0ghz? Looking at Apple's history, I can't see how it would not be 1.0ghz at the low end. Actually, it would probably be-

    dual 1.13ghz

    I wouldn't expect anymore more then what their history has shown.
  18. eric_n_dfw macrumors 65816


    Jan 2, 2002
    DFW, TX, USA
    New case requests

    My desires in the next Power Mac case:

    - Add a 2nd 5 1/4 drive bay
    - It's a pain to install additional drives on the bottom plates of the current case - ATA cables, usually, are not made to reach side-by-side drives. (I use the round ATA/133 cables to get arround that BTW) Go to PC-style internal 3.5" HD cages or something.
    - Front mounted USB & Firewire ports would be nice
    - Put the dang eject button back on the CD/DVD drive and make it trigger an OS X "Eject" request like the keyboard button does.
    - Don't get rid of the big side-door style motherboard access. That is the best thing since sliced bread if you ask me!
  19. Macmaniac macrumors 68040


    I can't wait to see what new stuff comes out. I intend to be at MWNY when it comes out! I am going to have so many posters! 1.4ghz would be so sweet along with DDR, Apple cannot afford to go to 1.2ghz, it is just not fast enough! 1.4ghz and up!
  20. ftaok macrumors 601


    Jan 23, 2002
    East Coast

    I think what MOSR was saying was that the hi-end will have a dual 1.33Ghz at the least, and that a dual 1.4ghz was most likely. The Dual 1.5ghz is at the most.

    Then, they say that the lo-end would be a single 1ghz and the mid-end would be a dual 1.2.

    They did not contradict themselves.

    lo-end ---> single 1.0ghz
    mid-range ---> dual 1.2ghz
    hi-end dual ---> 1.33ghz, 1.4ghz, OR 1.5ghz
  21. TechLarry macrumors regular

    Feb 21, 2002
    Steve Jobs is the most anti-6 slot person I've ever seen, so I would not hold your breath for this one.

  22. SpiffyGuyC macrumors newbie

    Feb 28, 2002
    Re: PowerMac/iBook Hints?

    Apple wouldn't change the form of their most successful product in years so soon after its introduction, especially when they can barely keep up with orders as-is (not to mention production). Why lower profit margins by including a larger screen when the existing iMac is bringing in all the orders Apple is equipped to handle (and then some)? Not to mention the fact that Apple had to raise prices because the 15" screens were becoming costlier; thus it stands to reason that a 17" would not be economically feasible at this point. :rolleyes:

    This is a tired rumor, and MOSR is full of it, as usual. The G4 specs are nothing new; more or less what was on the leaked motherboard configuration a couple of weeks back. The article really doesn't deserve this much attention.

  23. gopher macrumors 65816

    Mar 31, 2002
    Maryland, USA
    forget Gigawire

    Why not make the first hard drives based on ethernet? For once the networking standard is faster than the peripheral standard.

    Gigabit ethernet should be complimented by gigabit drives.
  24. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Re: No Not again.

    G5 - ha. It almost a given someone it going to mention it, so it best not to take it seriously. Everyone wants one, we've been waiting for a while and we'll continue to wait. I'm just excited that it seems that the whole machine is getting a work over. I imagine the performance boost should be significant, but, and this is a big but (Krosfyter), Apple is going to need to be able to put a single-one-uno processor up against a single intel/AMD CPU and keep up with it. This won't happen, it seems to me, any time soon. The only way Apple is able to compete is by adding more CPUs, which is cheating in a way.
  25. Xapplimatic macrumors 6502


    Oct 23, 2001
    Re: Re: No Not again.

    HAHA... I don't think most people would call this cheating.. Remaining competitive with any advantage you have to deploy... it is!

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