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Hmmmm

It's becoming kind of a cliché but here it is again... I also would be very dissapointed when there would be no new powermacs. It would suck big time :(
 
Out of curiosity, why does everyone seem to think that an August release of a powermac means that it won't be first introduced at MWNY?

If I had a product I was planning on letting the public purchase on, say August 15th, and I had a huge expo a month before then, I'd show the world what I had, let the public see it and what it can do, let the press test it, and watch them line up at the store at midnight to buy the product.

Everyone knew the ps2 was coming out, and what its specs were, and everyone waited and anticipated, and couldn't wait, and for a month, they were hard as heck to find.

I say, let Apple show us at MWNY, whet our appetites, and then in August, let us buy.

That gives them plenty of time to build some so that they don't have all the delivery snafus that they had with the new iMac.
 
I could see them not saying anything because maybe they don't have the specs down yet. rumors were flying that the top end machines would be 1.2 or 1.4, now cnet is saying they will start at 1.2Ghz and go higher. It's possible they just haven't locked down these new specs.

But who knows what'll happen. We'll all be glued to the powermac display for the keynote though :p
 
Re: Re: all kinds of confusion

Originally posted by tk-421


I work at an Apple Specialist here in town and I checked with purchasing and we're still able to order Powermacs.

Are you ordering from Apple, or Ingram?
 
Why this could be Really Big!

IF Apple does hold off until August to announce the new PM's, I think that means the new machine is SERIOUSLY better than the current one. Here's why: normally if the new machine is just a small improvement, there will be plenty of buyers for the previous machine, given a decent discount.

What if Apple thinks this machine is such a leap forward that people would not buy the old one if they know about the new one? That sounds like what may be going on here!
 
Re: Re: Re: all kinds of confusion

Originally posted by Nipsy


Are you ordering from Apple, or Ingram?


From Ingram....so I guess which means we're still ordering Ingram's (probably massive) stock. Where as Ingram might get an EoL when ordering from Apple...
 
I think that the PowerMacs will have a huge update in mid august. All the evidence points to it. I think that if the iMacs get 17" LCDs, then apple will have to drop the price of the LCDs. Why would they stick a $1000 screen on a $2000 computer? The PMacs will probably get 1.2+ according to Cnet. That means that iMacs will take the 1 Ghz chip. The iMac need a 133 bus too. I just hope all the new Macs will come with bluetooth built in.
 
anyone know ?

It doesn't seem that anyone has an answer if the powermacs are EOL or not... if they are we will be getting new macs, if not then who knows ?? but it seems there are conflicting stories about EOL or no EOL... I wonder why ?
 
Just to let everyone know... all of the powermacs are still current items in CompUSA stock. Not discontinued macs yet.

-Pete
 
iWonder

Is there a Dell World?
How about a Compaq World?
Are there any GatewayRumors.com sites?
Oh I can see the topics now: "Gateway opts for multi colored Angus pattern - users pissed. Long live the black & white!"

You know, this gives me an idea. I'm gonna start a DellRumors.com site!!
No wait, how about organizing a DWLR, Dell World Little Rock?
Oh yes, it's all coming together...

And for some of you right brained posters out there, sarcasm can de difficult to detect in the writen form. Just goofin'. Relax.

Say, does any other computer manufacturer have this sort of Grateful Dead, Phish type of following? Too funny...

lazyrighteye
 
The Dell, Compaq and Gateway world is the real world..
Only small groups of people excluded from the masses would create so much fever around a computer.

We are fighting the status quo.

Thats why we get the fever and events.

YET, there might be a SONY world... :)
 
This rumor is crap

We are also an Apple Specialist. I hate rumor sites, but one of my associates pointed out this thread to me and I must say this rumor is crap.

I am a Apple Direct dealer and order direct from Apple and Ingram. The Apple Reseller store is still accepting orders for all computers. The QuickSilver G4 machines state "7 Days" to ship. Although that may be coincidence this day would be the first day of Mac World Expo.

I also ordered a "CTO" G4 Friday and it shipped on Tuesday. I ordered another CTO Monday and expect shipment confirmation tonight or tomorrow.

Apple extended revamped the CPU/Monitor rebate until August 12th. Which tells me Jobs may be announcing new machines (G5?), but won't be available immediately.
 
Re: Re: Notice:

Originally posted by hitman


I don't think it will be in a few days. Remember the thread about 6 different cases. It's probably going to be sometime in August.

If the 6 different cases are for real then the one month would be merely an announcement because of the ramp up time they need to build these systems. That would push them back a bit in getting ready for the xmas season.

I see two possibilities based on info gathered:

1. the inventory problems are for real. The new rebate program somewhat reinforces this because of the dates involved.

2. Something new is coming out that may be at higher pricepoints because it's much more powerful and will not be called a PowerMac G4. I had a thread on this once before that many disagreed with. I can honestly say that it's unlikely but certainly possible.
 
Originally posted by wsteineker
Yeah, we should hope. But if Apple is serious about this whole updating products when they're ready and not waiting for expos thing, then they won't release a new run of towers until they're ready to ship. Let's be honest here, guys. We applauded Apple when they adopted teh new product announcement strategy, but now a lot of folks are bashing them becasue they just might stick to it. It's a double standard. I think we should just wait and see, knowing that new towers will coming down the pipe very soon no matter what. Just my $.02. :)

You're not seeing another side of the picture though. I know some schools that were holding off on purchases for new models. Now they're forced to purchase machines that will probably be replaced the second they show up on their dock. Yes, technology progresses but that is discouraging and doesn't sit well with a market that Apple claims to care about. Remember Apple has come late to the table with systems before so that schools were forced to buy products soon to be outdated. It helped clear inventory which is what I see is the most likely scenario this time.
 
Originally posted by mcrain
Out of curiosity, why does everyone seem to think that an August release of a powermac means that it won't be first introduced at MWNY?

If I had a product I was planning on letting the public purchase on, say August 15th, and I had a huge expo a month before then, I'd show the world what I had, let the public see it and what it can do, let the press test it, and watch them line up at the store at midnight to buy the product.

Everyone knew the ps2 was coming out, and what its specs were, and everyone waited and anticipated, and couldn't wait, and for a month, they were hard as heck to find.

I say, let Apple show us at MWNY, whet our appetites, and then in August, let us buy.

That gives them plenty of time to build some so that they don't have all the delivery snafus that they had with the new iMac.

That's a different market for a different situation which is how they did the iMac as well. An announcement for a new PowerMac G4 system would absolutely kill Apple's chance to sell off their current inventory. Now if they had a new PowerMac or some system at a higher pricepoint(likely for new markets(aka video or highend), they might be well served to make that announcement. Otherwise though they're not going to want to disrupt the possibilities of people trying to hold off for a month even if the rumored facts support that.
 
a thought...

maybe...just maybe.....production has officially stopped on the "old"(current) powermac line.....and they can't have NOTHING to sell for a full month...so perhaps...they are holding these powermacs for those people who need/want a new G4, but don't care about the slight speed increases, or the different enclosures.....i dunno..just my two cents....and i hate to contradict MYSELF....but no normal person who gives a damn bout money will buy something one month..when they KNOW a month later it'll be badder and better....idea!...perhaps...there won't be an announcement till mid-late august...that would make sense considering my crazy half-assed logic....sorry if this seems like a flow of thought and that i just thought threw it now, cause I DID:D ..i think everyone should just chill..i think in the end we'll be made to hold out with just speed bumps, and be guaranteed G5's in January:D...okay then...that's my 2 euros....which i think is more than 2 of our crazy american ¢....so until the next time i decide to let u all in on a crazy person's mind, aur revoir...

adel
aim: sinbushar
 
Everyone keeps talking about G5's in January. I don't know what they're smoking but the odds are against it even more in my opinion than some new G4 system next week because of inventory that may carry over from xmas. They need to have a good xmas season(forecast and executionwise) and then we *might* see new G5's. I'd say we'll see new laptops in Jan and then maybe Feb could call for G5's. Probably upgraded xserves as well then.
 
It was on CNN today that apple has a huge inventory they're trying to get rid of.. so you can all stop guessing about that.
 
Originally posted by moJoMR
It was on CNN today that apple has a huge inventory they're trying to get rid of.. so you can all stop guessing about that.

Not that it isn't true but that could be almost as bad as saying that you saw it on the internet so it must be true. ;)
 
I highly doubt CNN would make up a report about Apple's current surplus of computers.. and given the fact that this thread is speculating about the rebates maybe a hint towards a surplus. Just trying to help and share my knowledge Sorry if CNN isn't a legit enough source for you, I'll go and see what Spymac thinks is going on..
 
New Macs in August? oh- My Birthday is in August! I may have a nice surprise for my old G3!
 
how long before the first iMac release was it anounced ?

I know it was released on August 15th 1998, it was my 21st birthday!

I also wasn't online at the time, I read about it in a magazine afterwards :mad:

Is it likely they'll anounce something 4 weeks or so before it's shipping ?

I've never really noticed any delay because I've stuck with the same mac model for 4 years or so and not had chance to buy a new one around expo time.
 
Originally posted by moJoMR
I highly doubt CNN would make up a report about Apple's current surplus of computers..

I caught this story as well on CNN. I can't remember the guy's name who did the report, though.
 
Like it's been said in other threads... Many are waiting for the NEW Macs with DDR RAM and improved technologies. I for one am in this boat. I am NOT going to buy a dual G4 w/PC133 with the probability of dual 1.4GHz w/DDR RAM coming out by August. Comparitively, that dual G4 1GHz won't be worth $2,000 in one month vs. a dual 1.4 w/DDR RAM and 120GB hard drive, new case design, and other improvements. The surplus may be there, but Apple's still going to have a hard time selling it, as they've had rebates going ALL YEAR and it hasn't made much of a difference. MAC USERS WANT NEW POWERMACS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, AND NOT BE RIPPED OFF BY BUYING YESTERDAY'S TECHNOLOGY TODAY. I don't have a solution to Apple's surplus, other than to offer huge discounts when they introduce their new PowerMacs at MWNY.

(I did like the point that was made about nothing being in the Apple Store Refurbished section, which does indicate something big is coming down the pike at MWNY -- I'm betting a big PowerMac update. The first minute of the keynote we'll know as Jobs lays out his 5 or so major points. I predict the last point, which is typically the biggest announcement, will say "PowerMac." Woo-hoo! MWSF the last point was "iMac" w/the introduction of the flat panel iMac G4)
 
Since I'm in the market for a new computer, I've been plowing through every bit of information (rumor or not) I can find regarding Apple. After extensive reading, rationalization (if that is possible) and positing, this is what I think is going to happen at MWNY:

- Announcement of impending PowerMac upgrades (whatever those might be).
- MASSIVE iMac discounts to get rid of all of the surplus, AND an announcement that the old PowerMac chips will be stuck into the new 17" iMacs).

-- I'm guessing that new computers will be ready to order by August. A guerilla marketing attempt to offload as many existing PowerMacs and iMacs will shortly follow the announcement for the new Power and iMacs.


(And I wouldn't be surprised at all if all of the **** that has been going down is just smokescreen for something completely unexpected).
 
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