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Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
Like it's been said in other threads... Many are waiting for the NEW Macs with DDR RAM and improved technologies. I for one am in this boat. I am NOT going to buy a dual G4 w/PC133 with the probability of dual 1.4GHz w/DDR RAM coming out by August. Comparitively, that dual G4 1GHz won't be worth $2,000 in one month vs. a dual 1.4 w/DDR RAM and 120GB hard drive, new case design, and other improvements.

that's the frustration you will feel when following rumor sites. it sucks. really you don't know if we will see anyting to the powermac. we might just see a bump to 1.2ghz sometime soon. they may save the new case and DDR ram for the G5 whenever that comes. persoanlly i don't care that people think the case is getting old. it's so damn functional. if/when they change up the motherboards for whatever reason it will require a revamped case. now that they have a specific rackmount server, the next Pro case design can really be optimized for the needs of the pro user, whatever they are determined to be. if it is a tweaked version of the current case, i'll still be happy. i love how easy it is to get inside. i can't really think of where it needs fixing. the only thing would be, maybe, another full sized front bay or something. though, if they had combo drives when i got my machine i would not have a CD burner sitting on top of my case. the idea of being able to mount everything in the case is more of a security/clean style thing. except the power users that need many PCI slots (Audio/Video, scsi users), everything else you would need is available externally and could be added to an iMac. honestly i would think many of the current powermac owners could really use an iMac and be fine. maybe Apple is trying to make them realize it?

The first minute of the keynote we'll know as Jobs lays out his 5 or so major points. I predict the last point, which is typically the biggest announcement, will say "PowerMac." Woo-hoo! MWSF the last point was "iMac" w/the introduction of the flat panel iMac G4)

but that doesnt include the "oh, and one more thing" line........ also that january keynote was kinda strange. it seems to be a common thought that the updated G4 towers were ready, but since it was a minor upgrade (though it did hit the 1Ghz mark) they didnt want to distract any fans/press from the iMac. you know some journalists would say somehting about the new iMac and then stick in somehting about the Pro machine has finally hit about half the speed of Pentium chips. i know about the megahurtz myth and all, but you know it would be done. i think the G4 delay was clever on their part. *if* they REALLY revamp the G4 with DDR Ram and quasimatrons and gonkulators and whatever else, then i would hope they spend some keynote time pointing it all out. it is also a good chance for joe user to see the new things inside for the first time. most stores don't show you the opened case and you have to kind of guess what's going on. there are still many stores selling Apple gear with undereducated staff. the expo should be where you can get all your questions answered correctly, at least till there are more Apple stores.
 
No love for the pro user

They fed the consumer the new iMac at MWSF, now they need to show some love for the PRO, show that they care enough to showcase the pro line for MWNY and not a month later with no fanfare..
 
I agree with Moonlight. Most are agreed that new towers are in the works, to be shipping by August. Why would Apple not take the opportunity at MWNY to upgrade the PMs, especially if a new case design is involved. I say new towers announced at MWNY.

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Re: Confused are we?

Originally posted by JD2
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Like a lot of you I'd like Steve to leave us with an open mouth after his upcoming "speech". But then again we sometimes want to much more don't we?

God, it's been quite a few Expos since Steve actually WOWED anybody. His famous "One more thing" hasn't appeared in close to 2 years.

Maybe it's just that I follow these rumor sites now, but boy, I have not been surprised by any product announcements in some time.

I hope Apple is causing these "no PowerMacs at MYNY" rumors so they can surprise us at the show.

I would love the show to end with a Jaguar demo, then Steve makes it look like the show is over, and then "Oh, one more thing. I suppose you would like to see some hardware that can actually RUN this OS".

BAM! Crowd ERRUPTS! Their walletts are out before they even see what he's selling, or what new case he crammed it into.

Anyway, that's how I see an Expo worth remembering going down, and Apple sales going up.
 
Re: Re: Confused are we?

Originally posted by BOOMBA
God, it's been quite a few Expos since Steve actually WOWED anybody. His famous "One more thing" hasn't appeared in close to 2 years.

Maybe it's just that I follow these rumor sites now, but boy, I have not been surprised by any product announcements in some time.
It's definitely the rumor site thing. Because the rumor sites have changed the game considerably since then. I can remember a time when there weren't a dozen or so Mac web sites "counting down" until Expo time, when there weren't every Ma and Pa Mac user prognosticating about what might be announced. There was a time when an MacWorld Expo came along, and we got the news the morning of the opening of the show, and were either surprised, happy, unhappy, or whatever.

Now, all this rumor forecasting has changed everything - it's like being a kid and having a panel of CNN-style talking heads sitting around a table with you weeks before your birthday, endlessly debating and predicting what gifts you might get. Individually, they have no idea what they're talking about and they'll probably be wrong, but if there are enough of them at that table and they spend enough time guessing, SOMETHING's gonna be right by sheer quantity, thereby spoiling any chance of a surprise.

I dunno. I don't begrudge the rumor sites' right to exist, but in many ways, they definitely take the fun out of Apple announcements by spending so much time speculating on every possible potential outcome of an Apple keynote beforehand. And like the proverbial kid at his birthday, I can't seem to resist reading them, either. I resist letting my personal and business purchase decisions be affected by rumor sites, but the Mac enthusiast in me can't help myself from at least following the latest rumors. And, like you, I'm never surprised by what is announced.

I'm thinking maybe it's time to lay off the rumor crack pipe - this stuff is really bad for my health... :)
 
Suck it up

I think the whole idea that Apple needs to push back a PowerMac update one month to clear inventory is a bad move, if true.
Apple has pretty much not updated the PowerMac in a year aside from slight speed bumps that still fall behind PCs (except when running specific Photoshop filters).

I say Apple should use some of it's $5Billion to suck up a loss on the old G4s it still has in stock, and unleash the new machines.

Donate the old ones to schools for a tax write off, discount them to slightly above cost in a special $1000 G4 Tower promo, whatever, but show us the new stuff.

I really need a better performing PowerMac, but a lot of people would be thrilled with a 1GHz machine, and would take a cheap one ($1100 or so), even knowing the new ones are shipping in a month. They don't need the speed, and won't apend $3000 for it anyway, and Apple needs to unload the machines.

Towers at $1100 would sell out in about 1 week. Sure, it would be obvious that a new computer is coming, but so what?

All it could do is increase the number of Macs out there.
Anyone who was going to buy a new DDR PowerMac is still going to wait, but you might sell a bunch of old towers (and towers need monitors) to non-power users.

everyone would be happy. Especially ME, and that's what matters.

:)
 
I agree with you BOOMBA!

I would buy a cheap 1 giger to hold me till the new models come out!

Then I could roll the 1 giger over to my girlfriend!

It would be a smart move for APPLE, andas you said it would increase market share and get a lot of new users online with APPLE!

So I agree with every thing you said except the last part,

about WHAT MATTERS is that your happy!

It also matters what makes me HAPPY!

But since we agree its a mute point! :)
 
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