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Preliminary iPhone 1.1.1 'Jailbreak', Ringtones Soon?
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Don't be that way. The "Open Source" movement is very very strong, and there are lots of quality applications out there. Entire Office and Photoshop clones exist for free. They do this to improve the quality of life for us all.
Others, of course, charge and that's cool too. If the market finds your app to be useful, then people will willingly pay (unless the price goes down after they pay, in which case, hell breaks!)
An application as simple as an alarm clock ought to be free, but we live in a consumer world where even ringtones cost money. The antithesis of open source.
OSX thrives with gobs of "free" applications that make the experience much better than Apple can out of the box. There's quicksilver, handbrake, and odds are, you're using Firefox. (and if you're using Safari, there's still a ton of "free" software in it)
Free? So by that logic iTunes should be banned, right? And handbrake, Firefox, iSquint, VLC, Audacity, Adium, Google Earth, and on and on.
I'd certainly pay for a third party program that doesn't run through Safari on the iPhone, but with Apple officially blocking developers from working on such programs how will that be possible? It's not about the $$$, it's about development.
Because of this news I've just gone and bought myself a 16GB iPod touch. Its a bit of a gamble but hopefully this will be hacked as soon as or not long after the iPhone. I'd have gone for the iPhone but it is not yet available here in the UK. Also a minimum of 35 pounds per month is a little to high for me. If the second generation iPhone is still hackable (to run third party applications) then I'll probably get one of those.
Is this the cat portion or the mouse portion of the cat and mouse game Steve talked about?
How long will the developers give that this jailbreak allowing 3rd party apps to work will last?
What if Apple starts developing iPhone firmware for operational ability and compaitibility with future Mac OSes & products that iPhone owners will need to download versus given the phone owner a choice?
I would hate to have to go through this again if I were a iPhone owner (whcih I'm not, yet).
Hopefully some Apple solution will be affirmed soon to allow 3rd party apps, because the current situation is nothing but a big boondoggle and fiasco.
Meanwhile, Apple is probably getting ready to release 1.1.2 which will lock the phone again. If not right now, I am certain there will probably be an update right around Leopard release time. This is going to be an everlasting battle between 3rd party developers and Apple.
If free software didn't exist, neither would OSX in its present form. In fact, it would probably be rather pathetic, in comparison.
It seems obvious to me. AT&T doesn't want iChat installed. AT&T makes a ton of money off text messaging. Something like 1000% profit. If they open up the iPhone, then you can bypass text messaging.
Someone will develope an VoIP application for the iPhones soon enough. Then you won't need your minutes either.
They have the phone locked down because they don't want applications to run on it. Not because they can't.
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Someone will develope an VoIP application for the iPhones soon enough. Then you won't need your minutes either.
They have the phone locked down because they don't want applications to run on it. Not because they can't.
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These are two different animals in many cases, as has been the case since the iPod touch was released, there are very few resources & people, if any at this time, trying to hack the iPod touch. I think you are very mistaken by purchasing an iPod touch with expectations of it being hacked in the short or long term.
Great conspiracy theory, but AT&T doesn't generally lock down what applications the cellphones it sells can run. Most, indeed, incorporate a J2ME (MIDP) environment.
The iPhone is the big exception: it does appear to be Apple, not AT&T that wants the system locked down. (Well, AT&T wants it SIM locked, but that's another issue and not relevant to the above.)
I think the release of Leopard will be the nail in the coffin as it relates to the 3rd party applications. I believe that when someone adopts Leopard and they are the owner of an iPhone, there will be a required update to the iPhone that will for all intents & purposes be the final curtain call for the "cat & mouse" games.
How many out there that have been screaming for the release of Leopard are now going to hold off updating?
How many out there that have been screaming for the release of Leopard are now going to hold off updating?
Chance of repeating this whole stupid, time-consuming, people should know better, iPhone damaging process again: 100%.
Yep, once again.
.. and it will get around Cat version 1.1.2 too, but only after another couple of weeks.
Once Cat reaches 2.0.0 it will probably be months and months before dah Mouse gets around him again, and IMHO I think the Mice will get tired sometime soon...
Let's hope by that time Apple has given the Cat an SDK so that the Mice don't have to find a way around him anymore, but given them a nice little (commercial) wheel to run around in, so that the Mice can develop gr8 Apps instead of having to dodge the fierce Cat.
BTW.. CatsRcute and particularly one über-Cat called Leopard.
You can already bypass SMS with numerous, full-featured web-based solutions, like meebo.
You know what I think, Apple should make another iPhone product such as iPhone Nano with SDK and 3rd application capabilities - that way, AT&T customer contract-related would be still appreciated.
Depends on how important it is for you to download some select, protected audio from the iTunes Store to your iPhone.
Until one can download DRM-free music form iTS, this 'feature' is of zero interest to me.
Now, 1.1.1 does bring a couple of nifty tricks (double-click Home Button, double-tap Space Bar, etc.). But 1.0.2 offers much more flexibility. From what I have seen.
Ex: a city counsel person (Denver, CO) my wife saw last week, gave his entire PPT presentation on a projector via his iPhone.
He made some joke about "hope I don't get a call during this."
Ha ha.
SIde note: over the weekend, I noticed all of the iPhones in the Aspen Grove Apple Store were still running 1.0.2.
Weird?
This is all great news, but I suspect that, as somebody pointed out, Apple is already working on plugging this for the next update. The Iphone dev team is giving themselves away by providing information online.
I only hope that the more Apple tries to lock it down, the more that approach backfires and encourages people to try to break it. This is not just about breaking in for fun - it's about a philosophical discrepancy between Apple's control-freak world and those who believe in more flexibility and openness. I hope the latter win this stupid game and that Apple quickly learns a lesson or two.
I only hope that the more Apple tries to lock it down, the more that approach backfires and encourages people to try to break it. This is not just about breaking in for fun - it's about a philosophical discrepancy between Apple's control-freak world and those who believe in more flexibility and openness. I hope the latter win this stupid game and that Apple quickly learns a lesson or two.
I keep saying this, the lack of SDK or major updates right now is because Apple's developers are spread thin between the iPhone, iPod Touch, Leopard, etc.
What a fiasco the iPhone is turning out for Apple. Lol. I can only laugh. In the time Apple has been trying to sell one million of it's overpriced carrier-proprietary piece of crap-ware, tens of millions of other phones have been sold. It's bad enough that it's priced in a segment where no normal cell user is even going to consider it, but now it's locked down as well, as it relates to both software and carrier. Lol. I don't think one company is the least bit worried anymore that they didn't get to be the exclusive carrier of iPhone. It's a drop in the bucket. Do you know how many blackberries have been sold in the time that the crap iPhone has been out? It'd blow your mind. My frickin Pearl that I got FREE on contract has Instant Messaging clients for AOL, Yahoo, ICQ, and MSN, and it has picture messaging, and the crap iPhone doesn't? Lol. And the company is desperately trying to keep people from adding these features for a multi-hundred dollar phone? Double lol.
With the previous incarnation, Jailbreaking was the first step to installing 3rd party software on the iPhone.
It was necessary to install some such software before you could start going about the business of applying the SIM unlock so that the iPhone could work on other networks.