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Right now I have Apple Watch series 6 and an iPhone 12 Pro Max.
This year, no new watch for me.
I ordered the 13 Pro Max and am keeping that until 2023.
My first time going every other year since the original iPhone. Truth is above. Things upgrade much more slowly now.
Next year will be my watch year.
If that is what makes you happy, then that is good.
 
Everyone with an iPhone 12 complaining that the 13 is lackluster, realize that the 13 isn't meant for you. The 14 maybe, but not this one. For those who upgrade anyway, the upgrade contains better battery life, and improved cameras, to be expected.
"Complaining" is always a little silly, I agree.

That said, there can be genuine doubts and questions to mull over when deciding whether to upgrade.
In my own case, last year I tried the 12 Pro but didn't like some things about it (size, shiny sides, esp since I don't usually keep my phones in a case). So I got the 12 Mini, which has been great, perhaps with the exception of the battery, which during Covid didn't matter but will now matter more.

I wouldn't normally consider upgrading after a year, but the combo of bad battery on the Mini and compelling cameras on the 13 Pro might convince me to make an exception. And overlook the funny faucet-shiny sides.

I think the OP used an unfortunate wording. The iPhone 13 is the middle tock in the tick-tock-tock sequence that began last year and will end with a (probably folding?) new chassis in 2023. It's a great phone, and people who either A) upgrade every year regardless or B) have anything pre-iPhone 12 will love it.

But those of us who are not in either of those groups and yet are tempted by some things about the 13 line have a decision to make. That's all.

What would probably swing my decision here is a photography-based review (ie Tyler Stallman?) saying either "yes, the main and wide cameras are really a bit of a leap ahead" or "nope, Apple marketing got us again, it's better but not that much better. You won't see the difference unless you really look".
 
Every month I pay a fixed amount for the service and the phone.

Every year Apple Sends me a new Phone under IUP

For no additional cost at the minimum I get:
A different color choice, that isn’t dinged up
Sometimes a memory capacity upgrade
New features in network capacity 3g, 5g, WiFi, Bluetooth
Always a screen, and battery bump.
New features I didn’t know I wanted, but in time will always take for granted
Much better camera / video performance
And a new OS which somehow Always feels worse on older phones.

And for the most part the same price, although I will treat myself to a new case.

If you don’t see value or want more, wait for that self licking ice cream cone 🍦
Not sure why you are directing that towards me? Re-read my post, we are both singing from the same Hymn sheet.
 
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I have a new Air with Touch-Id on the power button. First I'm not a big fan of Touch-ID but different people do things differently. First issue - I use my iPad normally in landscape mode so the power/touch-ID button ends up on the top left side which makes is sort of awkward to reach over and use. Second it is sensitive to how much touch pressure. Too much and it locks the screen again so you have to do it again and remember just rest the finger not press.
Sure future implementations will be different but thought I'd add my feelings here.
 
I think the thing that is bothering me the most is Apple's obvious holding back features/options just for the sake of profit. I get it, Apple is in the business of making money. Apple took years to release 120hz refresh rate, and I get the reason why - Apple wants to refine before releasing new technology. What frustrates me is give the option to turn of 120hz and let the user decide if they want to burn up battery life. With AOD, it's clear that Apple could implement this but feels that it's either going to eat into profits with the Watch. I have a watch, but I can't wear it while I'm at work due to the line of work I'm in, nor can I keep my phone in my pocket around the strong magnetic field environment I work in. I keep my phone on my desk. I want to quickly glance at my phone and see if I have an missed phone or message while I couldn't have my phone on me. I don't want to hear it takes '1' second to turn the display on - your missing the point - I want the option but apple is intentionally holding it back for profits.

It also AMAZES me in the current COVID situation that apple couldn't come up with a solution for FaceID and Masks. Let's go back to the same point - I have a watch, I can't always wear it. Ok, so Apple hasn't perfected in display Touch ID. We know they've imbedded a version in the iPad on/off switch. Apple couldn't give us an interim solution? Come on.

Someone previously mentioned the 'tick' 'tock'. That's what it's all about. Let's put in as little as possible to make sure we have enough users to upgrade for next year. Apple - I'd love to upgrade every year, please, take my money. Unfortunately you haven't earned it. I'm tired of being let down every year.
What makes you say ProMotion cannot be disabled on the 13 pros?
 
I am a current iPhone 12 Pro owner- having used it as a back up phone for my Galaxy S21 Ultra for a while.
I actually liked everything about the Samsung other than the obvious lack of Apple watch compatibility and not playing nice with Apple devices in general.

I also own the 11” and 12.9” 2021 iPad Pros. Ended up selling the Samsung in the anticipation of a potential upgrade.
As nice as the high refresh rate screen sounds, there is no major reason to consider upgrading- even with the improved cameras and longer battery life. In reality, I should be thanking Apple for not revealing a product that I am compelled to move on to.

Same thing can be said about the S7 Apple Watch...the product that stole the show for me was, without a shadow of a doubt, the redesigned iPad Mini.…

As such, I think I did the right thing in cancelling the upgrade to a 13 Pro Max- anyone else in the same boat?
Cool story. Thanks for sharing.
 
Apple can’t afford to add TouchID to iPhones yet.

Power button sensors would be incompatible with their cases.

Really? The cases?

Apple would be happy to sell you new cases.

This doesn't even qualify as an excuse.

I would blame COVID instead, or laziness, or pure stupidity. FaceID+TouchID would have been a hit.
 
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I am a current iPhone 12 Pro owner- having used it as a back up phone for my Galaxy S21 Ultra for a while.
I actually liked everything about the Samsung other than the obvious lack of Apple watch compatibility and not playing nice with Apple devices in general.

I also own the 11” and 12.9” 2021 iPad Pros. Ended up selling the Samsung in the anticipation of a potential upgrade.
As nice as the high refresh rate screen sounds, there is no major reason to consider upgrading- even with the improved cameras and longer battery life. In reality, I should be thanking Apple for not revealing a product that I am compelled to move on to.

Same thing can be said about the S7 Apple Watch...the product that stole the show for me was, without a shadow of a doubt, the redesigned iPad Mini.…

As such, I think I did the right thing in cancelling the upgrade to a 13 Pro Max- anyone else in the same boat?
Anyone feel the emphasis of the post is bragging how much this guy has blown on tech and is upset he cannot blow more on it? Must suck to have that problem. LOL. Damn, son....
 
I think you made a wise decision. I am actually disappointed in Apple for the first time ever. I think their new devices lack anything that could make me want to move from me 12PM. Let’s not even talk watches. I wanted a new watch this year. But I have a series 5 and am sticking with it for another year.

Sorry Apple no money from me this year!!!
I have to agree with this point. The incrementalism is reaching such a small integer that it is getting increasingly more challenging to get excited over Apples' announcements.

I did upgrade to a 13 Pro Max from an XR, and I have to say.... I am actually feeling some buyer's remorse. Yes, this has more cameras, superior cameras, a better display, etc... Heck, it even went back to the design language of the 5 (my aesthetically favorite model). Still, within 3 hours of owning the phone, I found myself bewildered as to what value this was really adding to my life and workflow over the older XR. Again, the relatively new features are so incremental and small in the bigger picture that I felt the magic is leaving upgrading these devices.

Conclusion: Apple has played out this strategy far too long: Especially when coupled with over-the-top hype. At one point, their cautious approach of letting competitors experiment with new technology before they roll out a refined version of that tech worked. But it has played out so long and is happening so slowly that it is becoming damaging to Apple. Example: The incredibly slow rollout of the new design language and features throughout the iPad product line. The lack of innovation for the Apple Watch product line. There should be far more innovation here by now. By the time Apple intends to launch a foldable product, Samsung will have a 5-year lead. Five years of frustration and rocky results, but in the eyes of consumers they are at least forging ahead while Apple spins old product design languages with incredibly slow feature set rollouts. This is failure in the making.
 
I have to agree with this point. The incrementalism is reaching such a small integer that it is getting increasingly more challenging to get excited over Apples' announcements.

I did upgrade to a 13 Pro Max from an XR, and I have to say.... I am actually feeling some buyer's remorse. Yes, this has more cameras, superior cameras, a better display, etc... Heck, it even went back to the design language of the 5 (my aesthetically favorite model). Still, within 3 hours of owning the phone, I found myself bewildered as to what value this was really adding to my life and workflow over the older XR. Again, the relatively new features are so incremental and small in the bigger picture that I felt the magic is leaving upgrading these devices.

Conclusion: Apple has played out this strategy far too long: Especially when coupled with over-the-top hype. At one point, their cautious approach of letting competitors experiment with new technology before they roll out a refined version of that tech worked. But it has played out so long and is happening so slowly that it is becoming damaging to Apple. Example: The incredibly slow rollout of the new design language and features throughout the iPad product line. The lack of innovation for the Apple Watch product line. There should be far more innovation here by now. By the time Apple intends to launch a foldable product, Samsung will have a 5-year lead. Five years of frustration and rocky results, but in the eyes of consumers they are at least forging ahead while Apple spins old product design languages with incredibly slow feature set rollouts. This is failure in the making.
I agree. I have buyers remorse as well and decided just to send it back and wait until the 14 comes out. Guess I just wanted a new toy. I didn’t think things through carefully on the purchase.
 
I am a current iPhone 12 Pro owner- having used it as a back up phone for my Galaxy S21 Ultra for a while.
I actually liked everything about the Samsung other than the obvious lack of Apple watch compatibility and not playing nice with Apple devices in general.

I also own the 11” and 12.9” 2021 iPad Pros. Ended up selling the Samsung in the anticipation of a potential upgrade.
As nice as the high refresh rate screen sounds, there is no major reason to consider upgrading- even with the improved cameras and longer battery life. In reality, I should be thanking Apple for not revealing a product that I am compelled to move on to.

Same thing can be said about the S7 Apple Watch...the product that stole the show for me was, without a shadow of a doubt, the redesigned iPad Mini.…

As such, I think I did the right thing in cancelling the upgrade to a 13 Pro Max- anyone else in the same boat?
Why exactly did you create this thread apart from craving attention of positive reinforcement of your decision ?
 
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I am a current iPhone 12 Pro owner- having used it as a back up phone for my Galaxy S21 Ultra for a while.
I actually liked everything about the Samsung other than the obvious lack of Apple watch compatibility and not playing nice with Apple devices in general.

I also own the 11” and 12.9” 2021 iPad Pros. Ended up selling the Samsung in the anticipation of a potential upgrade.
As nice as the high refresh rate screen sounds, there is no major reason to consider upgrading- even with the improved cameras and longer battery life. In reality, I should be thanking Apple for not revealing a product that I am compelled to move on to.

Same thing can be said about the S7 Apple Watch...the product that stole the show for me was, without a shadow of a doubt, the redesigned iPad Mini.…

As such, I think I did the right thing in cancelling the upgrade to a 13 Pro Max- anyone else in the same boat?
Nope, my current phone XS MAX from 2017, (I believe), upgraded for the camera’s the chip and 1TB SSD. Major upgrade for me!
 
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Every year we get these types of post. People post they cancelling or new iPhone suck. They come here to justify their feelings/decision. Others come and brag about how awesome it is…again just their feelings/decisions. For many years I like to use the latest iPhone keyword: LATEST. Maybe not the greatest for many out there but latest yes. I love the whole ecosystem and how heavily I’m invested it in. I am under the Apple upgrade program. So I don’t mind getting the latest iPhone every year. Do I need to? No. But I can so why not? I lease my car every 2-3 years. Why? Because I like to drive new cars every 2-3 years. All in all I do this for the my personal satisfaction. Not approval/designation of others. Just get what you want. Enjoy it. Don’t enjoy it? Then return it. Use what you like. Looking forward to next Friday and picking up my next iPhone.
It’s just human nature, don’t let things you can’t control bother you. Time here is short, maybe we should be trying to leave the planet better for the future than we had it. Been my mantra since the 60’s . Still doing it at 73 till ???
 
Keep in mind though, the pandemic likely took a toll on some of their projects. I think they were planning the 120 Hz for the iPhone 12 Pro, but they just didn’t have the resources necessary to complete in time with all the lock downs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the iPhone 14 might end up looking like the 12 and 13 if the pandemic continues the same. The fact that the Sierra Blue is just variant of Pacific Blue suggest they didn’t have time or resources to research new finishes.
Great thoughts!
 
When customers are surveyed the top most requested improvements in phones are battery life, cameras, and screens. Apple made improvements to all 3 this year. They already have the crowd who updates every year, but they need the people who haven’t upgraded in awhile to jump back in. To someone with an iPhone 6s, or maybe even an iPhone X, these camera and battery upgrades are significant.
 
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I view the 13 series as the "12s". At this point its incremental upgrades with phones and I don't see a problem with that. For me they need to focus on build quality: lighter weight while inching out better performance.
 
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I just received my iPhone 13 Pro Max in pacific blue replacing my iPhone 6 Plus and couldn’t be happier. This is beautiful and amazing.

Reviewers on YouTube compare camera and battery with the Samsung S21 very favourably aside from lack of the 10x zoom. And the screen is fantastic. 🤷‍♂️
 
I just received my iPhone 13 Pro Max in pacific blue replacing my iPhone 6 Plus and couldn’t be happier. This is beautiful and amazing.

Reviewers on YouTube compare camera and battery with the Samsung S21 very favourably aside from lack of the 10x zoom. And the screen is fantastic. 🤷‍♂️
Comparing the screens from my 11 Pro Max and 13 Pro Max, side-by-side, hard-pressed to tell a difference with brightness the same. Due to larger screen on the 13 PM, some elements are larger, while others are the same size, for instance the same wallpaper on both, the shapes in the wallpaper are larger on the 13 but the iOS elements on the screen (icons, text boxes, etc.) are identical size with the 11. Weird.
 
Comparing the screens from my 11 Pro Max and 13 Pro Max, side-by-side, hard-pressed to tell a difference with brightness the same. Due to larger screen on the 13 PM, some elements are larger, while others are the same size, for instance the same wallpaper on both, the shapes in the wallpaper are larger on the 13 but the iOS elements on the screen (icons, text boxes, etc.) are identical size with the 11. Weird.

Coming from a 6 plus like he said, the screen is lightyears ahead. Although in reality, Apple has some of the best LCD screens on phones.

In regards to all the other posts here about lack of innovation, I just don't get it anymore. I don't understand what else people have come to expect on a phone? What else can they really do to these things? Lose the notch? sure but then some people will complain about a punchole camera. Add under the screen touch ID? Sure but if it doesn't work ONE TIME people will complain Apple dropped the ball. They could change the design up but again, in what way? What is so wrong about the way the phone looks now? I have never not once seen this forum glowing with reviews of any iPhone they have ever released, ever. Apple will always "disappoint" someone, somehow. People just like to complain and everyone is so keen to look for a problem with their new shiny device.

Look, I get Apple tends to bring features to iPhones way later than any of the other competitors and that can be frustrating at times, totally understand that but if there's really a feature you want that the iPhone doesn't have, there are 10 android phones for you to choose from that do have it and most likely, are cheaper.

My point is I honestly don't think Apple will ever create something that people collectively love, its just not possible but that's why the market is filled with options from other companies. No one is forcing you to buy an iPhone.
 
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