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President Biden Praises Apple Employees in Maryland for Unionizing
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I’d rather ask “why would retail/service staff want to unionize” than just reflexively state that their reasoning is not as legitimate as other unionization efforts.
It's also the same Elon Musk who claims to care so much about climate change and the need to move away from fossil fuels that he says he will now only vote for a politcal party that denies climate change is real and want to increase fossil fuel production. All because Biden ignored him and didn't invite him to the White House. 🤣
Do I really need to remind you that he can do both (and about 100 more) things at once?
This is off-topic, but you mean like the 1 trillion dollars you spend in Afghanistan? That was really money well spent. Btw: Who’s running that country nowadays?😅
What else could you have done for that money I wonder?
Just for fun to put that number into perspective: Imagine if you simply donated that money directly to each individual afghan citizen. That’s 1250 USD/Afghan citizen every year for 20 years. That's 60% more than the Afghan BNP per capita!
And what do you think Afghanistan people would have thought of the US if you had done that?
Lots of fake information in just a few quick sentences. Good job. The bots are angry these days.
When I worked for Apple a long time ago in UK the wages were super low and to rub it in a Tesco clerk earned more per hour than us and yet we were constantly asked to be on top of tech etc. A clerk that scans items got more so yeah - we complained and actually they did raise the wages by about 20% or so which was nice but still not high enough to reflect the demands of the job. They constantly benchmarked us against other retail stores which felt a bit off.
In the end, I didn't care that much as I only worked for Apple when I was studying my craft. Now its a distant memory with some great experiences (and some bad ones)
Overall, Apple should always choose if they want 'student' staff (so the crappy wage is ok for them) or more permanent staff that they reward accordingly. Living in London on the wages Apple pay is very very challenging.
I literally doubled my money in the first year I've left Apple for a junior position in media.
So yeah, union is good if it helps the employees to get decent wages and working conditions. Often its not always about the money too.
Apple does have some nice benefits though but not many people can reach the full potential as their salary is too low. (like stock share was, I guess still is, capped at 10% contribution)
In the end, I didn't care that much as I only worked for Apple when I was studying my craft. Now its a distant memory with some great experiences (and some bad ones)
Overall, Apple should always choose if they want 'student' staff (so the crappy wage is ok for them) or more permanent staff that they reward accordingly. Living in London on the wages Apple pay is very very challenging.
I literally doubled my money in the first year I've left Apple for a junior position in media.
So yeah, union is good if it helps the employees to get decent wages and working conditions. Often its not always about the money too.
Apple does have some nice benefits though but not many people can reach the full potential as their salary is too low. (like stock share was, I guess still is, capped at 10% contribution)
How much do you know about other countries’ labor laws? Americans are being told left and right that they are best or next to in everything and taking that as gospel is only hindering the country’s progress.
The last thing Apple wants is picketing in front of their shut down store(s). Apple will compromise or completely cave before they will allow their brand to be damaged.I'm going to laugh my ass off when Apple shuts down the store or refuses to agree to anything they demand, let them go on strike, then replace them.
Decent pay is needed for consumptions. Death of the middle class which seem to be the endgame for many at this site would be the death of Apples high end products. Corporation has only short term profits in mind due to many reason and has difficulties to put their actions into a larger context. Unions and sometimes laws can help keeping them on the right track.
In Denmark we are agains EU proposal for minimum wages because we think that the unions and the equally strong employer organization knows best what the salaries should be for a sustainable society. The hardest fight is not between the private sector and the unions but between unions and the government jobs (schools, hospitals etc).
In Denmark we are agains EU proposal for minimum wages because we think that the unions and the equally strong employer organization knows best what the salaries should be for a sustainable society. The hardest fight is not between the private sector and the unions but between unions and the government jobs (schools, hospitals etc).
Foxconn already have a union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_unions
Unions often get taken over by their representatives to the detriment of the workers. One I remember from back in the day:
Arthur Scargill - Wikipedia
Unions _can_ be good, but are just as easily corrupted as the companies... See UK industry doldrums in the 1970s...
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…just sayin’.
…just sayin’.
After 7 years at Apple retail, even working in Maryland, and having trained Operations Specialists at the Townson store, I'm in no way surprised. However I vehemently disagree with ionization in an Apple store and I would've rallied against unions. I thought the pay was fine and commensurate with the work. There were opportunities for advancement. The benefits were amazing too. Healthcare was top notch, a better plan at a cheaper rate than I've ever found at any company since leaving. For example, first kid was born under apple health care - $400. second kid born when I was at a biotech, $4,700. They have better stock options, vacation, employee discounts than any other company I've seen, even as a salaried professional. When I think back on how good it was at Apple Stores, well, that's why I was there for the better part of a decade.
Now ALL of that said, I left Apple in 2013, so I don't know that the retail employee experience hasn't gone straight down the toilet. The only thing I really wanted (I mean sure I'd have loved more money, but I thought it was fair.) was more parity with corporate benefits. More vacation/sick leave and I don't remember what else.
Now ALL of that said, I left Apple in 2013, so I don't know that the retail employee experience hasn't gone straight down the toilet. The only thing I really wanted (I mean sure I'd have loved more money, but I thought it was fair.) was more parity with corporate benefits. More vacation/sick leave and I don't remember what else.
Unions pursue the interests of their weakest members. They certainly do not cater to the exceptional employees.
Apple doesn't seem to have an issue getting employees.
Catering to a subset of employees is not collective action
Uh... there is a union (of sorts) in place there already. It's called the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). But seriously... not all unions are good for all workers. I do hope this does result in better pay and working conditions for those who voted to unionize and I hope it sets a precedent. Working in the tech field for over 25 years there have scarcely been unions outside of manufacturing and people were often worked to the bone when ever possible. Vacations? Holidays? LOL Please.... not in IT you don't. haha
Actually... they have been having an issue retaining employees... and they're generally very selective about whom they hire. Had this been attempted 10 years ago the story would be very different. But this is where we are now.
Yeah well when you have countries like the US where the federal minimum wage doesn't even help someone to rise above "poverty" then unions are bound to appear. And now with inflation being what it is... I'd say this or something worse would have been an expected outcome.
I'm sorry, which labor laws are you referring to exactly? The US has scant few protections for their workers on a federal level and states rights vastly differ from one to another. Labor laws in Europe or especially Scandinavia are far more favorable.
Las week one on” auto pilot“ drove into the back of a fire engine. You know with the flashing lights and the reflective strips all over the place. There is nothing to praise about these cars.
Unfortunately... it seems it has. Apple as a whole has changed quite a bit since 2013.
It's called business's rights. In a healthy free market, you can't focus on only half the equation.