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President Biden Signs Executive Order Revoking Trump-Era Ban on TikTok and WeChat

Remember when everyone called Trump a fascist for signing so many executive orders but now they just don’t care that Biden has already outpaced Trump and every prior president with the number of orders he has signed? How is he not a fascist if ruling by executive order was one of lefts many definitions of fascist less than a year ago?

Back to the topic though, there’s no way I would ever let my kids use this app. It’s time we start treating Chinese tech companies the way they treat American tech companies. You wanna operate in America? We get to house servers for your app here and all American data is held here, safe from the CCP.
 
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brendu said:
Remember when everyone called Trump a fascist for signing so many executive orders but now they just don’t care that Biden has already outpaced Trump and every prior president with the number of orders he has signed? How is he not a fascist if ruling by executive order was one of lefts many definitions of fascist less than a year ago?

Back to the topic though, there’s no way I would ever let my kids use this app. It’s time we start treating Chinese tech companies the way they treat American tech companies. You wanna operate in America? We get to house servers for your app here and all American data is held here, safe from the CCP.
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I mean. Biden has to reverse all those crazy, insane policies that 45 enacted. So of course he’ll sign at least as many executive orders.
 
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brendu said:
Remember when everyone called Trump a fascist for signing so many executive orders
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No. But I do remember when Trump constantly complained about Obama issuing executive orders and how they were major power grabs, and then Trump did the same exact thing but to a much higher degree.

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brendu said:
but now they just don’t care that Biden has already outpaced Trump and every prior president with the number of orders he has signed?
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According to https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders

Biden has issued 49 so far
Trump issued 55 in his first year

So no, Biden hasn't outpaced Trump or every prior President. Yet.

If we're going by number of executive orders within a period of time, I don't think Biden will beat Trump's record of 14 executive order's in 2021. That's almost 1 per day.
 
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brendu said:
Back to the topic though, there’s no way I would ever let my kids use this app. It’s time we start treating Chinese tech companies the way they treat American tech companies. You wanna operate in America? We get to house servers for your app here and all American data is held here, safe from the CCP.
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FYI, Tiktok's US data is already stored in the U.S. Tiktok even uses Fastly for their content, which is based in San Francisco, California.
 
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kcslc said:
Keep living in your fantasy land.
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The fantasy is that the media is honest and their reporting on Trump in particular was honest. They lied about him over and over. It’s documented fact. They have had to admit it so many times it’s laughable anyone gets their information from the mainstream media companies at this point.
 
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senttoschool said:
FYI, Tiktok's US data is already stored in the U.S. Tiktok even uses Fastly for their content, which is based in San Francisco, California.
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That’s great to learn. Do you know whether the CCP has access to said data? I won’t use American social media either because it’s more of a net negative on society in my opinion but anything out of China get a big nope from me.
 
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Guda.FL said:
Guy literally has the look of my grandfathers who lost all sense, with one daily goal - swapping batteries in the tv’s remote, and watching the weather network.

Regardless of politics, it is highly unlikely it was his decision - im almost positive he does not have understanding of technology let alone social media platforms.
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It’s his decision as much as it was Trump’s to try to ban it. You don’t think Trump decided on his own out to ban TikTok did you?

There are thousands of people that work in the executive branch. It’s their job to come up with these decisions or to give the president options. The President signs to make it official. They don’t write their own executive orders.
 
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I think regardless of political party, we can agree Tik Tok is not necessarily a great platform for society.

The issue non-Trump supporting folks have, is that you can't cherry pick, and should apply the rule of law fairly and equally (particularly when Trump was the party of "freedom"). Tik Tok is guilty of doing exactly what Facebook, Google, and many other social media or data driven companies have done for years - exploiting your information. Therefore, if we were to crack down on Tik Tok, we should do the same to Facebook and similar companies. Of course that would never happen, because Facebook is a prime reason Trump won the 2016 election, and Trump knew that. Trump didn't ban Tik Tok necessarily because of data privacy issues, but because it's a Chinese company, and that supports his narrative of scapegoating the half million American COVID deaths on China vs. his failed leadership. Further, unlike Facebook, Tik Tok never personally benefited Trump in any shape or form.

Did Biden ever say he would not rule using executive order? Because I know Trump did. I may have missed something though, so someone feel free to link a source. Biden using an EO to undo an asinine EO really shouldn't be counted as an EO, but I digress.
 
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I wish the IC would just declassify what was discovered within those apps. I wasn’t read on high enough but I got the sense it was spooky what the capability was and a major stance like total banning would be the only way to prevent employees in certain area of govt/mail and greater private innovative sections who could have it downloaded and their phones would be able collect sensitive or proprietary data. It was never just a measure to stick it to China.. there were a 101 other ways to do that diplomatically and economically
 
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According to https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders

Biden has issued 49 so far
Trump issued 55 in his first year

So no, Biden hasn't outpaced Trump or every prior President. Yet.

If we're going by number of executive orders within a period of time, I don't think Biden will beat Trump's record of 14 executive order's in 2021. That's almost 1 per day.
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That is the definition of outpacing... 49 in not even half a year vs 55 in a full 365 days. That is in fact out pacing. Biden will finish with 138 if he continues that pace. Therefore, YES HE IS OUTPACING.

FYI, he also did less EO's than Obama.
 
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That is the definition of outpacing... 49 in not even half a year vs 55 in a full 365 days. That is in fact out pacing. Biden will finish with 138 if he continues that pace. Therefore, YES HE IS OUTPACING.

FYI, he also did less EO's than Obama.
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You are correct on that Biden is outpacing Trump. However it is a bit disingenuous if you don't keep in mind that a large percentage of Biden's EO were reversals of Trump EOs. For example this counts even though it was reversing a Trump EO.

While you are correct in saying Trump had fewer EO than Obama, you left off that PACING argument in your previous sentence! Obama 276 over 2 terms, Trump 220 over ONE term.

Source
 
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That is the definition of outpacing... 49 in not even half a year vs 55 in a full 365 days. That is in fact out pacing. Biden will finish with 138 if he continues that pace. Therefore, YES HE IS OUTPACING.
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You're saying that if Biden continues on his current pace he will issue 138 EO's for the year.

138 ÷ 345 days in office = 0.4 EO's per day

As I pointed out earlier, Trump issued 14 EO's in 2021, that's 14 ÷ 20 days (technically he wasn't in office the full day of his last day, but whatever) in office = 0.7 EO's per day

0.7 > 0.4

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FYI, he also did less EO's than Obama.
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Of course Trump issued less total EO's than Obama. It's because Trump was a 1 term President while Obama served 2 terms. But if we're comparing numbers by first 4 calendar years, Trump issued 205 while Obama issued 147.

205 > 147

Trump even beat Obama in his first year. Trump issued 55 while Obama issued 38.

55 > 38
 
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Kylo83 said:
Good luck with the border and gas prices and everything, if you think Biden is better then we’ll I can’t continue, trump done more good for america than Biden and the extreme democrats ever will
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What "good things" did Trump actually do for America? I keep hearing how great he was but from my perspective the only actual work he did was golf and sit on his fat ass and tweet all day.
 
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