As someone who's been a part of the Apple/Mac community since the 80's, and been a part of this forum since about 2006, I have to say that I'm always surprised at the amount of people here with far right views, who support a person like Trump. This community always seemed full of people with a natural curiosity about the world, and as people who wanted to make it better, be it artists, inventors, creators, etc - folks you tend to find more on the center-left/left side o the spectrum. But maybe I shouldn't be that surprised.
I think most of us would agree that Steve Jobs was a visionary, and an incredibly smart guy, which are things I absolutely admired about him, but there were always hints of him being a cruel, mean-spirited person, and around the time of his death we learned a lot about just how awful he could be on a personal level. Learning about those things definitely changed how I viewed the guy, and I've gotten the impression from friends and others in this community that they started to change their view of him also. He may have been smart, but he was awful, and being awful isn't admirable.
Objectively speaking, Trump has always been the kind of person who is motivated by what's best for him. He'd turn on a friend (and probably family, and we may soon see), in an instant, and anyone with half a brain has known for decades that he's a con man. He's cruel, mean-spirited, often ignorant of the facts or details surrounding a particular issue, and the amount of times he's said one thing one day, and then said the complete opposite the next, simply because it would clearly benefit him, is... astounding. Trump's number one priority has always been himself.
You could argue that Trump and Steve Jobs seemed to be similar types of people. Both enjoyed being top dog; the lone voice to say "yes," or "no," to anything, having ultimate control. Both have certainly had their moments of denying truth and fact, to suit themselves best, and both enjoyed being cruel, and mean-spirited. Not great qualities for sure. But their one big difference? At least Steve Jobs contributed positively to the world. He was able to see what was wrong with things, and start to imagine how they could be better. He clearly didn't do this for himself, at least not so he could take personal credit. He wanted Apple to be great, and he wanted Apple to improve the lives of others. I'm sure in his mind, his being cruel, or blunt, was necessary to reach that greatness, but again, it was never about Steve Jobs the personality. It was about a pursuit of something better. No sane person could ever say the same about Trump.
But clearly a lot of you are into those less than desirable qualities, and I guess that while some of us have changed our views about Steve Jobs, I'm guessing you haven't, and it's become a lot more clear why you admire someone like Trump. You like those qualities. I find that weird.
I'm a bit indifferent towards Joe Biden. I think he's a good man, but personally I think he's a bit old, and maybe out of touch with what America really needs right now, but I'm both happy and relieved that the White House is no longer occupied by a toddler who cares only for himself, who sits around watching TV all day, screaming about the smell of sh*t following him everywhere he goes, and blaming everyone else for it. Maybe Trump, and all of you who support him, should take a look under your own shoe.