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I never said I supported Mitt. Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm a libertarian.

That said, Romney would have run the country more like a business instead of a humanitarian society, which is what needs to happen. This made him the better option. He wasn't the optimal candidate, but I think he understood that the government is too big, and doesn't do a good job at running things.

We're on the highway to Greece people. The government isn't the answer. They're the cause.

You never said you supported Mitt? ... Until you did so right in this post.
 
Yeah, the Reuters article shows a close-up of the president. I'm thinking the MR author just searched for images and used the first one he found.

It's remarkable how different the front-page audience is from the usual PRSI suspects.

Terrifying actually.

I tweeted Jordan to see if he has an answer. Emmanuel is a pretty polarizing figure, especially for people who hate Obama, and I don't think that is helping in the discussion.

edit. The author tweeted back saying he didn't have a photo of Obama with Tim Cook

I'm not sure what can be discussed about the article. Obama supporters will praise him for reaching out and getting other opinions, while Obama haters will just go on hating him.
 
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Politicians are elected officials that are supposed to serve the people in public office. They volunteer to do this, and it should be considered an honor, not a status that gives them financial reward. I also disagree that they are "shockingly underpaid".

The POTUS earns $400,000/year + $50,000 expense account + security for life + assorted perks.

How is this "underpaid"?
 
So here is a civil question for all: why is that Chicago mafia idiot (Rahm Emanuel) shown in the picture with the POTUS? Is he a CEO now?

So, a civil question includes calling Rahm Emanuel a "mafia idiot?" Good to know.

As for your other assertion, the picture is from Friday when the President met with the Chicago mayor. The MR author obviously searched for images and decided to use this one to head the article—note the Reuters article shows a close-up of the president.

However, as of today's dateline 11/19, the president is in Myanmar and as the Reuters article suggests he spoke with CEOs by phone.

So, there isn't a picture of Obama meeting with CEOs in the White House for today because the President isn't there.
 
You never said you supported Mitt? ... Until you did so right in this post.

I said he was the "better option" of the two major candidates. So I'll say again, the words "I support Mitt Romney" never came out of my mouth. I wrote in Ron Paul, and gave money to his campaign, for your information.

That doesn't seem to be delivering quality results though.

Basically every single democratically elected leader in the world is an incompetent moron.

Singapore is pretty well run - but it also pays its leaders millions of dollars a year.

Agreed.
 
I tweeted Jordan to see if he has an answer. Emmanuel is a pretty polarizing figure, especially for people who hate Obama, and I don't think that is helping in the discussion.
edit. The author tweeted back saying he didn't have a photo of Obama with Tim Cook

Yeah, I can't imagine maintaining the mindset that a picture of Emanuel and Obama would become such an issue. Oy vey.

...I'm not sure what can be discussed about the article. Obama supporters will praise him for reaching out and getting other opinions, while Obama haters will just go on hating him.

Well, we could wonder if Dimon, Cook and Buffet are the right people to discuss the financial crisis.
 
The POTUS earns $400,000/year + $50,000 expense account + security for life + assorted perks.

How is this "underpaid"?

Because the "equivalent" job in the private sector, CEO of a Fortune 100 company pays significantly better, it is much less demanding, you don't visibly age, you attract much less criticism, and you don't need security forever.
 
Anything for a photo op.

Funny, there was no "Fiscal Crisis" during his campaign, POTUS said his system was working and things were improving.

The common thread with Apple, is exemplary world class hypocrisy.
 
I wonder if capping pay of executives across the board of all US companies would spur more reinvestment in companies hopefully leading to more jobs or if it's better to let the executives make as much as they want and then just tax them heavily for it.

Steve Jobs' pay was $1/year.

You'd have to get awfully intrusive to "cap pay", as the goal of the meme is punitive, not quantitative.

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Funny, there was no "Fiscal Crisis" during his campaign

And the day after the election, the phrase was all over the news. ...almost as if there were a de facto conspiracy to suppress the issue to assure a particular outcome...
 
And the day after the election, the phrase was all over the news. ...almost as if there were a de facto conspiracy to suppress the issue to assure a particular outcome...

Romney would have had exactly the same problem.
 
Might you agree that if it were discussed in such post-election detail before the election, it may indeed have become Romney's problem?

I'm not really sure how it would have made any difference.

If Romney's campaign thought it was a good line they'd have used it. Fox News might have reported it as well.
 
I'm not sure what can be discussed about the article. Obama supporters will praise him for reaching out and getting other opinions, while Obama haters will just go on hating him.

...and supporters will just go on bashing opponents at every inopportunity.

Your point was valid - insofar as it makes sense for any president to chat with various leaders on suitable subjects - until you had to bash those concerned about how this particular president, having the fiscal track record he does, will make use of those discussions.

How about phrasing it: "I'm not sure what can be discussed about the article. Like him or not, any president will seek opinions from relevant major leaders."
 
Exactly. My argument is that there are many people taking advantage of the system, and it's only growing. I also think we have naive people that refuse to see it that way, and vote for people that "help those in need", when they're actually just helping the abusers.

I want real reform. Slash spending. Reduce entitlement programs. Make them harder to get. Entitlements shouldn't be desired. Giving people entitlements to live off of is not solving the problem. Teach people how to get back to work and support themselves, rather than depend on the government to live. Legalize marijuana. Do what you want with your life. Marry whoever you want. Keep the majority of your money and spend it how you want to. Put the problem solving back in the hands of those who are good at it - private sector organizations. If the country were healthy, the government would see no need to dole out tax payer money and fund bankrupt programs.

We need incredible reform, across the board. We're living an unsustainable model. And again, I will say the government isn't the answer. It is the cause. I can't stress enough how strongly I feel about this.

You mean the same private sector that tanked our economy? Or the same private sector that pollutes our water and air in order to turn a profit.

The private sector is not the end all be all. We've seen what happens when it goes unregulated by government.
 
...and supporters will just go on bashing opponents at every inopportunity.

Your point was valid - insofar as it makes sense for any president to chat with various leaders on suitable subjects - until you had to bash those concerned about how this particular president, having the fiscal track record he does, will make use of those discussions.

How about phrasing it: "I'm not sure what can be discussed about the article. Like him or not, any president will seek opinions from relevant major leaders."

I wasn't bashing anyone really. I don't think Obama can do anything to win over the majority of people that voted against him. That's just my opinion.

....Well, we could wonder if Dimon, Cook and Buffet are the right people to discuss the financial crisis.

I think this is a valid question. Shouldn't he meet with some small to medium business owners for a different perspective?
 
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"Presidnet Obama met with corporate leaders including Apple CEO Tim Cook, JPMorgan Chase chief Jamie Dimon, and investor Warren Buffett, and others. "


President is spelled wrong

No, that's "Presid.Net" a foreign news service. It should read...According to Presid.Net: "Obama met with corporate leaders including Apple CEO Tim Cook, JPMorgan Chase chief Jamie Dimon, and investor Warren Buffett, and others. "
 
You mean the same private sector that tanked our economy? Or the same private sector that pollutes our water and air in order to turn a profit.

The private sector is not the end all be all. We've seen what happens when it goes unregulated by government.

And yet, government organizations can't even pave roads efficiently or run transportation authorities. I can't imagine how they'll run healthcare.
 
'Because there really was no other sane choice'.

Signed: the rest of the world.
Please consult the rest of the world before speaking on their behalf.

Signed:The silent majority.

Seriously, as an outsider, I don't see a significant difference between the democrats and the republicans but I don't think Obama is doing a good job.
 
And yet, government organizations can't even pave roads efficiently or run transportation authorities. I can't imagine how they'll run healthcare.
Roads don't get paved when the Republican congress refuses to pass an infrastructure bill.
 
Roads don't get paved when the Republican congress refuses to pass an infrastructure bill.

Are you insinuating that I'm a Republican? I am not. My statement stands. I could come up with plenty of statements about the inabilities of government on behalf of the left, too.
 
I wonder if capping pay of executives across the board of all US companies would spur more reinvestment in companies hopefully leading to more jobs or if it's better to let the executives make as much as they want and then just tax them heavily for it. The executives could though end up like Buffett and just live off of dividends and get taxed at a lower rate. I guess we should raise taxes on dividends over a certain amount then so no one could theoretically escape then?

Going forward, dividends will be taxed as regular income. Long term capital gains will go from 15% to 20%. Obama wants it to be 40% by the end of his term. Whether you see this as good or bad depends on your level of intelligence. Ah! but which is it...Are you intelligent if you see this as good?
Or are you intelligent if you see this as bad? Only the intelligent know for sure.
 
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