Presidential Candidate Elizabeth Warren's Plan to 'Break Up' Big Tech Companies Could Affect Apple's App Store

[Jakewilk]

There’s a difference between a service being popular and a service being a monopoly. For example people like google, that’s why they stick with it. There are no other reasons. It’s the same with most of these services. It sounds like Warren has a problem with big tech and this is her excuse to make it do what she wants

I will say though that facebook owning instagram is a little unfortunate. They kind of do have a monopoly on social media, twitter being the only real competitor

 

[stars_fan]

This post delivers 1/1024

 

[thekeyring]

I’m quite a liberal person (and I live in the UK which is generally more left wing than the US) but I disagree with this.

Apple only has a monopoly status on the App Store because their devices are so popular. Saying “we’ll include a curated App Store” is part of what makes the iPhone good for consumers.

Apps like Netflix and Spotify have proven Apple is not limited start ups by “forcing” them to pay a 30% cut.

Also, the inequality in the US is hardly caused by this. Why not tackle corruption, healthcare, etc?

 

[yaxomoxay]

Does she know that in order to even have a chance a candidate who's not self-funded kinda needs big business donors?

 

[macgabe]

Great idea Warren. Hopefully this means Apple will be forced to split off Watch. Then Tencent or SoftBank will buy it and make it great in China until it's so full of advertising that nobody will want one any more. Or Rolex can buy it to subsidise their dying mechanical watch business.

 

[archer75]

I guess no one told her that Amazon carries products from third party sellers and has done so for years? - There are thousands of small businesses thriving by selling goods on Amazon, many of them don't even make the products they sell on Amazon but use it as an extension of their physical locations or to maximise their warehouse space.

Companies have to sell on amazon to even get noticed anymore. And amazon takes a nice chunk of the profits from that. These small businesses don't have much choice in the matter, not as much anymore. Since everyone buys everything from amazon.

 

[john123]

I hope she wins the nomination so it’s an easy win for Trump.

"Easy win"? No. There's not a single candidate on the planet who would make for an "easy win" for Trump. Not even Hillary Clinton.

(Just to be clear, since I know people don't actually read before frothing at the mouth and getting themselves into a frenzy, I am NOT saying that Trump can't or won't win. I am saying that his unfavorables are so high that absent something like a terrorist attack, he's definitely not a shoe-in, no matter who the candidate is.)

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Does she know that in order to even have a chance a candidate who's not self-funded kinda needs big business donors?

She already said she will not take money from PACS etc. She said she will run a grassroots campaign based on small donors. I don't support her but thought maybe you should receive the memo as Warren has already covered this.

 

[nt5672]

Dang! How can the people break up big government?

Exactly, given the choice of big government or big corporations, I'll take big corporations any day and every day.

Big corporations are controlled by not spending any money with them or using their free services.

Big government can never be controlled except by the 0.1 percenters that are the rich political elite. They'll always have guns, free speech, good health insurance, ability to use as much fossil fuel as wanted, the ability to set their thermostat at 68 in the summer and 78 in the winter. The rest of us will, eventually, be out of luck and have to do what we are told or go to jail, or have our possessions take away. BTW those laws are already in place, but the elite need to consolidate more power before these laws can actually be used the way they are intended.

 

[john123]

Yup...She's done. Besides all of the companies would sue and probably win at SCOTUS

Perhaps you're unaware of the 150+ years of jurisprudence we have here in the United States around antitrust law?

 

[techwhiz]

We broke up AT&T and now we have a larger and more powerful AT&T..........

 

[archer75]

Exactly, given the choice of big government or big corporations, I'll take big corporations any day and every day.

Big corporations are controlled by not spending any money with them or using their free services.

I'm the exact opposite. I don't fear the government. I fear the corporations that own the government, that own the politicians.
Big corporations cannot be controlled simply by not spending money or using their services. Their hands are in everything and cannot be avoided. Just because their big name isn't on it doesn't mean it isn't something they own.
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We broke up AT&T and now we have a larger and more powerful AT&T..........

Not because they were broken up. Because laws changed and they bought enough politicians to allow it to happen again.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

We broke up AT&T and now we have a larger and more powerful AT&T..........

Didn't the same thing happen making Rockefeller richer than anybody could have imagined?

 

[Saipher]

Calm down all of your precious snowflakes... Warren was never a mainstream candidate. Wait for Joe Biden to throw his hat into the ring. A Biden-Sanders ticket is a winning ticket.

Not if he's running as an independent, as he intends, which will cause the voters to be split between him and a Democratic runner, thus diluting the votes needed to win. If that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins a second turn.

 

[gugy]

Warren had a chance 3 years ago. Honestly she has no shot this upcoming election. While I praise her for going after Wall Street and regulate them, she doesn't have the charisma to run this time.

 

[buckwheet]

Yeah, wow... this is kind of a tricky one, imho. I don't generally agree that the big acquisition monsters are "stifling innovation", since there are a lot of startups that really push innovation in order to get acquired. But the process of starting a company where one of your primary exit strategies is to sell to one of a handful of massive companies does seem strange to me, and certainly doesn't encourage people to create businesses that are actually competitive. For sure it just makes the big players bigger...

 

[bigjnyc]

This is the new blueprint to getting elected, just say as much outlandish and out there things as you can and piss off as many people as possible..... Worked for TRUMP

 

[yaxomoxay]

She already said she will not take money from PACS etc. She said she will run a grassroots campaign based on small donors. I don't support her but thought maybe you should receive the memo as Warren has already covered this.

Again. Does she know that in order to win she needs $$$ from tech and big company donors? A grass root campaign is not nearly enough, especially on the D's side.
Hillary spent 1.2 billions and lost. There are 247,813,910 adults in the US, which means that she needs 4 to 5 dollars from each one of them. Considering that only 59,600,000 voted for HRC in 2016, that would mean $20 from each one of them. Even 50% of the above would be unprecedented.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Again. Does she know that in order to win she needs $$$ from tech and big company donors? A grass root campaign is not nearly enough, especially on the D's side.
Hillary spent 1.2 billions and lost. There are 247,813,910 adults in the US, which means that she needs 4 to 5 dollars from each one of them, especially considering that only 59,600,000 voted for HRC in 2016. That would mean $20 from each one of them. Even 50% of the above would be unprecedented.

She could get $5 billion and still wouldn't have a chance. She is so out of touch with reality it really doesn't matter. One key to winning these days is your social media persona. Warren is DOA. Trump managed to beat Hillary and that massive amount of money with the power of Twitter.

 

[nt5672]

I'm the exact opposite. I don't fear the government. I fear the corporations that own the government, that own the politicians.
Big corporations cannot be controlled simply by not spending money or using their services. Their hands are in everything and cannot be avoided. Just because their big name isn't on it doesn't mean it isn't something they own.
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Not because they were broken up. Because laws changed and they bought enough politicians to allow it to happen again.

This is so easy to prove wrong. What would happen if a lot people stopped using Facebook? Answer Facebook would be irrelevant. How do you stop using the government. The answer is you can't. Well if you do they throw you in jail.

FaceBook is already losing users in droves and that has forced them to start thinking about a fair way to regulate their platform. The government hacks are just piling on to what is already happening and taking credit for it. All to induce people that think the way you do to give the government more power.

Second, Facebook cannot take everything you own. Right now the government can, all they have to do is plant some drugs on you, then take everything. Does not require a conviction, does not require a judge's order, does not require a warrant, does not require anything other than the government thinking you are a criminal. Today it's legal and it's costly if not impossible to get overturned. Why? Because the law passed says the government can do it with without due process and the Supreme Court upheld it.

 

[lowendlinux]

Again. Does she know that in order to win she needs $$$ from tech and big company donors? A grass root campaign is not nearly enough, especially on the D's side.
Hillary spent 1.2 billions and lost. There are 247,813,910 adults in the US, which means that she needs 4 to 5 dollars from each one of them, especially considering that only 59,600,000 voted for HRC in 2016. That would mean $20 from each one of them. Even 50% of the above would be unprecedented.

To be fair HRC needed all the money she could get she was one of if not the most unpopular candidate in '16.

HRC =/= all democrats

 

[yaxomoxay]

Warren is DOA.

Pretty much. Between the American Indian lineage and the beer thingy...

 

[BarrettF77]

Her ideas are crazy. Bernie wants to get rid of all banks and is embracing socialism.

The media is inherently Liberal. The funny thing being the current day Conservatives are really the liberals of yesterday. I'm not sure what the Dems are thinking now days... Behold the dumbing down of society and lack of actual thought.

Congress needs term limits to keep idiots like her out of the public. It's a job where they serve the people, not themselves. Shameful really.

 

[Scottsoapbox]

So Apple's apps would merely be moved into iOS and done. Zero policy effect.

 

[bigandtasty]

Doesn't she have another awkward beer to drink?

HAHA, no kidding! Way she rolled onto that beer, looked like the first time she's put anything in her mouth! LOL