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Pro Tools 7.3 LE on Leopard?
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I'm having a strange issue after upgrading to 10.5. I'm running an MBox2 Pro Factory on a Macbook Pro, 2gb ram, and the latest update of Pro Tools LE 7.3 (can't remember the point release right now at work). Everything loads fine (removed rewire) and I can open old projects without issue. I haven't done much, but it seems as though I can record new tracks without issue as well. The problem occurs when I try and import audio to a track. I select the audio file and while I can play/preview it it refuses to import. Then after the import window is open for about 10 seconds the whole screen blacks over and crashes.
Any ideas? If I can't import I'm dead in the water for recording.
Any ideas? If I can't import I'm dead in the water for recording.
Well onetre thats a new one to me.
Its not often I import audio into PT.
I will try to recreate the issue however and see what I can come up with.
What file type are you trying to import?
That may be a part of the issue....I don't think PT natively supports MP3 ...so if thats what you are trying to bring in that could cause an issue.
Its not often I import audio into PT.
I will try to recreate the issue however and see what I can come up with.
What file type are you trying to import?
That may be a part of the issue....I don't think PT natively supports MP3 ...so if thats what you are trying to bring in that could cause an issue.
It's been very strange. I've tried MP3, wav, aiff, etc. Through the whole array and it was the same. It would push over to the import side and then never go through with it...seconds later a full system crash.
I ended up biting the bullet last night and purchasing 7.4 LE. After I installed and pulled the rewire plugin out everything seemed perfect. I loaded up several older projects, created a few new, and importantly for me I imported audio flawlessly.
Everything seemed VERY responsive as well. I have not installed the 10.5.2 update that was released yesterday and now that i have things working I don't think I will.
Thank you very much for looking into it.
I ended up biting the bullet last night and purchasing 7.4 LE. After I installed and pulled the rewire plugin out everything seemed perfect. I loaded up several older projects, created a few new, and importantly for me I imported audio flawlessly.
Everything seemed VERY responsive as well. I have not installed the 10.5.2 update that was released yesterday and now that i have things working I don't think I will.
Thank you very much for looking into it.
My findings...
I installed Pro Tools 7.3 on my new 2.0 GHz aluminum imac with Leopard pre-installed and upgraded to 10.5.2 and it is working fine so far using an mbox 2... For some unknown reason, EQII and the Digidesign compressor installed outside of the plug-in folder so I had to transfer them into the plug-in folder to get them to work. Structure is yellow and difficult to navigate but I can live with that for now. Everything else including Strike with the free updated sound library is working fine so far... Strike without the free update was acting up the same as Structure.
Pro Tools 7.0 did not work with Leopard 10.5.2
I installed Pro Tools 7.3 on my new 2.0 GHz aluminum imac with Leopard pre-installed and upgraded to 10.5.2 and it is working fine so far using an mbox 2... For some unknown reason, EQII and the Digidesign compressor installed outside of the plug-in folder so I had to transfer them into the plug-in folder to get them to work. Structure is yellow and difficult to navigate but I can live with that for now. Everything else including Strike with the free updated sound library is working fine so far... Strike without the free update was acting up the same as Structure.
Pro Tools 7.0 did not work with Leopard 10.5.2
Works or not....
Macbook 2.4ghz Duo, 15" Screen. I did a Leopard update (not clean install) and have recently updated to 10.5.2. Pro Tools LE 7.3.1 works....sort of. Despite having an external Firewire 800 drive, I still get the "CPU holding back USB buffers" drop out quite a bit. This did not happen under Tiger but it could possibly be caused by other factors (new Line 6 plugins).
One thing I did have to do to get Pro Tools working once I had installed Leopard was run the prebinding script that was a patch for the Tiger install of Pro Tools 7.3. I think this is because I did an update, not a clean install of Leopard.
It all seems a bit fragile.
Update (3/17): Went back to Tiger (dual boot) and all works fine. Tech Support at Digidesign said it was probaly the 10.5.2 update that killed it. I'm beginning think that USB is not such a good idea for an audio interface.
Macbook 2.4ghz Duo, 15" Screen. I did a Leopard update (not clean install) and have recently updated to 10.5.2. Pro Tools LE 7.3.1 works....sort of. Despite having an external Firewire 800 drive, I still get the "CPU holding back USB buffers" drop out quite a bit. This did not happen under Tiger but it could possibly be caused by other factors (new Line 6 plugins).
One thing I did have to do to get Pro Tools working once I had installed Leopard was run the prebinding script that was a patch for the Tiger install of Pro Tools 7.3. I think this is because I did an update, not a clean install of Leopard.
It all seems a bit fragile.
Update (3/17): Went back to Tiger (dual boot) and all works fine. Tech Support at Digidesign said it was probaly the 10.5.2 update that killed it. I'm beginning think that USB is not such a good idea for an audio interface.
Im running Leopard with ProTools LE 7.3 cs5 with mBox one (oldschool) Everything is fine.
I initially tried it when i first installed Leopard but found it just wouldn't work.
Now after 10.5.2 update I became curious and decided to reinstall. Works like a treat.
I initially tried it when i first installed Leopard but found it just wouldn't work.
Now after 10.5.2 update I became curious and decided to reinstall. Works like a treat.
Well, I am totally confused by this thread!
...but nothing new. We just unpacked a new iMac with leopard 10.5 and we have PT LE 7.4.+ and it gets to the point where it lights up the firewire on the digi-002 rack and then PT just goes away but is still running in the background. I have not tried taking the rewire plugin out but will do in the morning. The good news is that it seems some of you have gotten it work. Any more tips? Thanks!
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...but nothing new. We just unpacked a new iMac with leopard 10.5 and we have PT LE 7.4.+ and it gets to the point where it lights up the firewire on the digi-002 rack and then PT just goes away but is still running in the background. I have not tried taking the rewire plugin out but will do in the morning. The good news is that it seems some of you have gotten it work. Any more tips? Thanks!
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Hi thanks for that keep us posted on the VST thing too, we need that. I am trying to find a gray tiger install disk for the new imac now...then will try what u did, but what about performance? we only have usb externals here, and they are pretty slow it seems.
Help!
Well, I got a tiger 10.4.8 install disk from the dealer and t says "Cant install on this computer" so how an i going to make a bootable tiger drive?!? Sure hoping some kind soul here can help so i can get this imac into production! thx...
Well, I got a tiger 10.4.8 install disk from the dealer and t says "Cant install on this computer" so how an i going to make a bootable tiger drive?!? Sure hoping some kind soul here can help so i can get this imac into production! thx...
Load the removable drive on your 10.5 desktop, open disc utility and then format the removable drive (MAC OSX Extended).
Once the format is complete then simply put the install disc into the computer and choose the removable drive as the install destination.
Should work just fine.
Once the OS is installed on the removable drive just go into startup disc preferences and choose the removable drive....then restart and you are officially running on 10.4
Install protools as normal (make sure you select the removable drive as the install destination).
If your removable drive is USB powered then just use a USB slot (most drives are USB 2 these days anyway so it will be good and fast).
If you have a firewire drive as the removable drive you can likely slave it off of your Digi Rig (if you have an 002 or 003).
If you are using an mbox or something that runs on USB not so much....I would then siggest getting a USB hub so you dont run out of ports ... never try to run the mbox or the removable drive from one of the USB port on the keyboard.....I think they mayt still be USB 1 and they don't get enough power to even turn on the external device (I'm fairly sure those USB plugins don't have BUS power but I may be wrong).
Good luck and I hope it works for you
Also ..... on the note of the VST to RTAS wrapper....
www.fxpansion.com
They have a nice little wrapper and its super cheap...I haven't had the chance to install it yet but all of the feedback I have read has been very positive so it will likely work.
Thanks for that! I did all that but with a macbookpro and external drive and old Tiger disk. it still did not work. BUT GET THIS: after almost giving up I decided to try the install that was in leopard 10.5 with protools 7.4.1.cs3, and voila, it worked! The trick was NOT to open up from the installed icon, but to open up a project file.
So I guess there is good news: there is at least one new iMac running leopard and latest protools in Asia. How it came to be was just dumb luck I suppose....
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As long as it worked
just another case of getting spooked by the mfg website! but now plugins may be an issue....Logic * is looking better by the day
just another case of getting spooked by the mfg website! but now plugins may be an issue....Logic * is looking better by the day
No it isnt...trust me if you have ever looked at the workflow of Logic you will reconsider.
Don't get me wrong I think Logic is a well designed bit of software but it simply isn't as intuitive as Pro Tools.
Hell if you are gonna make a switch use nuendo or something.
I have a good feeling that digidesign will have this mess sorted out soon.
I wish I was closer so I could just come by your studio and make an attempt to get it all running smoothly
Pro tools 7.3 & 7.4 and a Digi 003 that won't work
I've just bought a Digi 003 ... which shipped with Pro Tools 7.3 (and a note saying I was eligible for a free upgrade to 7.4)
Long story but prior to buying the Digi 003 I upgraded OSX from 10.39 to 10.5.1 (thought I was doing the right thing as I knew Pro Tools didn't work with 10.3.9 .... it won't even install.)
I currently get the "Pro Tools Hardware is not connected or in use by another program" error and Pro Tools won't open.
I'm about to download the upgrade to 7.4 ... (then immediately upgrade again to 7.4.36 or something as instructed!)
Am I going to be still frustrated at having spent a lot of money on a desk and software that won't work? Are there any hints as to anything I should do after upgrading?
I've just bought a Digi 003 ... which shipped with Pro Tools 7.3 (and a note saying I was eligible for a free upgrade to 7.4)
Long story but prior to buying the Digi 003 I upgraded OSX from 10.39 to 10.5.1 (thought I was doing the right thing as I knew Pro Tools didn't work with 10.3.9 .... it won't even install.)
I currently get the "Pro Tools Hardware is not connected or in use by another program" error and Pro Tools won't open.
I'm about to download the upgrade to 7.4 ... (then immediately upgrade again to 7.4.36 or something as instructed!)
Am I going to be still frustrated at having spent a lot of money on a desk and software that won't work? Are there any hints as to anything I should do after upgrading?
Ha! I am not one of the engineers, just the boss, but I bet the staff would agree with you. They sure don't want to learn it after investing so much in PT. I, on the other hand am just an apple freak. if they put out software, i use it...well, at least for video. but the meat an potatoes is music, and we are a digidesigned studio. Cheers, feel free to look us up in Kathmandu!
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Hi there, well what apple box do u have - according to the digiwebsite, the matrix of compatibility is OSX and apple-hardware dependent. Sounds crazy but that's the way it is. New silver 24" imac in OSX 10.5 with 7.4.cs3 runs great after a lot of trouble at first. Now plugins seem to be the problem. btw, according to the digi website, you need a macpro 8-core to run 7.4.cs3 in leopard. Ha! Looks good to me on the slowbox.
Tip: don't use apple software update in leopard. there might be something with PT and leopard 10.5.2 that isn't right yet. but it does work in 10.5. I've also read to use combo updates when available; not sure if they have those in leopard, but they have in tiger. good luck!
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Can someone tell me why people still use ProTools LE?
Why not use ProTools M-Powered, as it is less restrictive and the hardware is not as proprietary.
I have an M-Box with ProTools LE that is basically useless because of the hardware/software requirements and compatibilty quirks of ProTools LE.
I can't use it on modern computers, which means I am still stuck in the year 2000 with that device. That is why I switched to ProTools M-Powered, but prefer using Ableton and Reason.
When I get the money, I think I will ditch ProTools altogether in favor of Logic.
By the way, I have been a ProTools user since version 5.
Why not use ProTools M-Powered, as it is less restrictive and the hardware is not as proprietary.
I have an M-Box with ProTools LE that is basically useless because of the hardware/software requirements and compatibilty quirks of ProTools LE.
I can't use it on modern computers, which means I am still stuck in the year 2000 with that device. That is why I switched to ProTools M-Powered, but prefer using Ableton and Reason.
When I get the money, I think I will ditch ProTools altogether in favor of Logic.
By the way, I have been a ProTools user since version 5.
Thanks for the advice - if I ever get this working I won't be updating anything at all ever !!! ....
I'm trying to run it on a Mac Powerbook Pro G4 ... It should be ok, we'll see. It meets the minimum specs listed by Pro Tools.
Depending I suppose upon where that combination falls in the "matrix of compatibilty" ... (Maybe I should consult The Oracle?)
Ha! ProOracle may be an opportunity for a new mac app. Have u downloaded PT troubleshooting folder from the site? It clears settings and whatnot, comes with some test files too. With ur config, I think you stay in 7.3.1 on Tiger, but my eyes glaze over looking at that matrix. Good luck!
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Try the upgrade route first, from what I have seen it will work.....
I chose to go the opposite route and install 10.4 onto a removable drive and use it as a boot drive...so far it has worked out really well for me.