Problem Solved: New MB & MBP "Glassy" screens

[belvdr]

My personal preference is to eliminate the reflection on the screen. I couldn't care less about the border, since I am not trying to look through the reflection there. Still, putting tape around the border is not going to fix the reflection on the screen.

 

[MagicWok]

Nice dark room to have your glossy MBP in... I myself like light. HINT

 

[sushi]

A friend of mine just discovered a way to cut out the so-called "glassy" issue.

Interesting solution.

I don't see how tape on the BORDER stops the SCREEN from being reflective.

The tape eliminates reflection around the boarder of the screen whereby reducing overall glare. Peripheral vision is definitely affected by the black boarder -- especially since the boarder area is more reflective.

Hopefully Apple will get rid of the black border and glassy screen or at least just add another option for people who don't like to live in caves. BTW the MB could also use a firewire port and possibly a matte option as well. I'm sure some will agree.

Not sure if the boarder will change with the model.

A Matte screen option would definitely be nice.

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Uh, there is not picture.

Now that is an Epic Failure!

But I can still see your reflection on the screen when you took the photos. I think the problem is the reflection on the screen, because that's where your work is. The work is not on the border of the screen.

Your peripheral vision plays an important part in how you perceive objects. Many times your peripheral vision detects aspects of an object that your regular vision does not. It has to do with the difference between Cone and Rod cells in the eye.

 

[belvdr]

Your peripheral vision plays an important part in how your perceive objects. Many times your peripheral vision detects aspects of an object that your regular vision does not. It has to do with the difference between Cone and Rod cells in the eye.

But if I have this huge reflection of me, right in the center of the screen because I'm sitting in front of the computer, then it doesn't really matter if the border is reflecting or not, does it?

 

[kyosuke]

My personal preference is to eliminate the reflection on the screen. I couldn't care less about the border, since I am not trying to look through the reflection there.

Its not just the reflection from the screen, but also from the border that hurts the eyes because more reflection is coming in from there and if you have a lot of light that is really bad. So taking some reflectiveness off, it really helps my eyes. Or that seems to be the case for me. Yes, it won't eliminate the reflection issue, but it does help take straining off my eyes which is progress to me.

 

[belvdr]

Its not just the reflection from the screen, but also from the border that hurts the eyes because more reflection is coming in from there and if you have a lot of light that is really bad. So taking some reflectiveness off, it really helps my eyes. Or that seems to be the case for me. Yes, it won't eliminate the reflection issue, but it does help take straining off my eyes which is progress to me.

That may be true, but your photos aren't a good comparison. The first were taken in light, and that last one appears to have been taken in the dark. To do a good comparison, they should be taken in equal conditions, and with the camera and computer in the same locations.

I should add that my HP notebook has a non-glossy black border around a glossy screen. It's still a pain too.

 

[kyosuke]

Interesting solution.


The tape eliminates reflection around the boarder of the screen whereby reducing overall glare. Peripheral vision is definitely affected by the black boarder -- especially since the boarder area is more reflective.


Not sure if the boarder will change with the model.

A Matte screen option would definitely be nice.


Uh, there is not picture.

Now that is an Epic Failure!


Your peripheral vision plays an important part in how you perceive objects. Many times your peripheral vision detects aspects of an object that your regular vision does not. It has to do with the difference between Cone and Rod cells in the eye.

Thanks Sushi for clarifying what I was trying to say. I do see where Blvdr is saying too tho.

BTW my pictures were taken in my lighted room. its just that my iphone couldn't detect the light. So i'll try again.

 

[sushi]

But if I have this huge reflection of me, right in the center of the screen because I'm sitting in front of the computer, then it doesn't really matter if the border is reflecting or not, does it?

It does matter.

Sure there is reflection directly ahead of you, but it can be affected by your peripheral vision.

Do you have access to an older (10 years or more) CRT monitor? There is a cool test that will show you just how much different your conical vision and peripheral vision truly are.

 

[kyosuke]

 

[belvdr]

It does matter.

Sure there is reflection directly ahead of you, but it can be affected by your peripheral vision.

Do you have access to an older (10 years or more) CRT monitor? There is a cool test that will show you just how much different your conical vision and peripheral vision truly are.

I don't agree. If I cannot see the work directly in front of me, then I'm going to be focused on seeing that, not whether or not the border is reflecting something. I have this problem already on an HP laptop. I have a reflection in front of me, and the border is a matte black plastic trim. So, explain to me how putting the tape around the border (in essence replicating what I have now) is fixing the problem I see. I still have a reflection in the center of the screen that's in the way.

 

[belvdr]

I'm not going to ask any question about your computing time in the past few minutes...

 

[sushi]

I don't agree. If I cannot see the work directly in front of me, then I'm going to be focused on seeing that, not whether or not the border is reflecting something. I have this problem already on an HP laptop. I have a reflection in front of me, and the border is a matte black plastic trim. So, explain to me how putting the tape around the border (in essence replicating what I have now) is fixing the problem I see. I still have a reflection in the center of the screen that's in the way.

I don't know how else to explain it other than how I already have.

Again, your peripheral (rod) vision affects your conical (cone) vision. So if your peripheral vision picks up reflections it affects how you perceive what is directly ahead of you.

Have you heard of your Day Blind Spot?

 

[belvdr]

I don't know how else to explain it other than how I already have.

Again, your peripheral (rod) vision affects your conical (cone) vision. So if your peripheral vision picks up reflections it affects how you perceive what is directly ahead of you.

Have you heard of your Day Blind Spot?

I do understand what you're saying. I feel you are supporting this as an end-all solution; however you're failing to understand what I'm saying. I already have a laptop with a matte border and a reflective screen.

I have the same problems with reflections, so why should this solution be any different?

 

[pesc]

All your screenshots have windows with white backgrounds. These work best with the LED screen since the brightness can cancel the reflections.

Now try to watch a dark photo, or browse at www.dpreview.com and try to find a way to cancel the reflections. That's a more interesting test.

 

[sushi]

I do understand what you're saying. I feel you are supporting this as an end-all solution; however you're failing to understand what I'm saying. I already have a laptop with a matte border and a reflective screen.

I have the same problems with reflections, so why should this solution be any different?

Are the glossy screens identical?

If not, then you can't compare the affects of the frame.

Note, I am not saying that a different boarder will eliminate the glare in the middle of the screen. I am saying that a different boarder will affect how you perceive the screen glare. The glare will still be there but the eye can better adapt to the screen without the black boarder.

 

[fleshman03]

I have no idea why people would do that to their machine. I think the glossy is just part of the deal with the late 08 models. If you don't want glossy, there is always the MacBook Pro Classic.

 

[MagicWok]

I have no idea why people would do that to their machine. I think the glossy is just part of the deal with the late 08 models. If you don't want glossy, there is always the MacBook Pro Classic.

There is NO such thing as the MacBook Pro Classic at all. Don't make up products or facts.

There are simply current and refurbished MacBook Pro's. The current MacBook Pro should have a matte option, regardless. But this has been discussed over and over again...

 

[SolRayz]

muahhahahahahaaa...you should patent that and sell it for $19.00.

 

[CD3660]

I'm not going to ask any question about your computing time in the past few minutes...

Cheap tape around the screen of a brand new MBP....

Brand new MBP resting precariously on the edge of a bathroom sink....

All a bit bizarre and kinky for me!

 

[NC MacGuy]

muahhahahahahaaa...you should patent that and sell it for $19.00.

$59.95 installed.

 

[GoCubsGo]

Now I wish I hadn't returned mine.

 

[kyosuke]

All your screenshots have windows with white backgrounds. These work best with the LED screen since the brightness can cancel the reflections.

Now try to watch a dark photo, or browse at www.dpreview.com and try to find a way to cancel the reflections. That's a more interesting test.

Don't worry it still failed. It doesn't matter what you do to these things, nothing will truly work.

I am very disappointed in Apple's decision and may switch over to a Dell or something of actual use. I can't stand it at all. I'll find a place to put this thing. Just so that it looks pretty in the house. A $2,000.00 piece of art.

 

[fleshman03]

There is NO such thing as the MacBook Pro Classic at all. Don't make up products or facts.

There are simply current and refurbished MacBook Pro's. The current MacBook Pro should have a matte option, regardless. But this has been discussed over and over again...

I like calling it the MacBook Classic. With such a radical and unproven design, classic brings to mind all the things that the old ones are. Classic.

Besides, it's not like I call my iPod Touch an iTouch.

 

[tcphoto]

It looks like the guys from Unique Auto are getting ready to put it in the paint booth and pimp it out. Will it be flames or a two tone for you?

 

[sushi]

Don't worry it still failed. It doesn't matter what you do to these things, nothing will truly work.

That's true, unfortunately.

Maybe one of screen overlays/protectors will work in the future.

Right now glossy screens seem to be the in thing for both the Mac and Windows. Hopefully this fad will fade soon.

Just happy that I have a MBP with Matte screen. Obviously an older model, but good enough for now.