Processor Upgrades

[FattyMembrane]

the prospect of an upgrade card with dual processors for the later generation of g3 imacs is music to my ears. i'd settle for a dual 667, no problem, but the only way i'm buying one of these is if it's an entire mobo with a radeon mobility chipset (or better) for around $500, otherwise i'd just as soon trade up for an emac. what's the point of a pricey upgrade if i still dont have quartzextreme?

 

[cr2sh]

Re: The sense?

Originally posted by groovebuster
I don't really get what the sense will be to put a DP1GHz in your old Mac, when it costs you probably more than 1,000$
groovebuster

These are cube upgrades. Hard-****ing-core.

An 8" cube (powder coated black) with dual 120gig 7200 harddrives, 1.5gigs of ram, dual processor 1gigs. All running via firewire into a pair of MOTU 828s.

Do you get it now?

Its not about having the best and the fastest, the newest the whitest.. its about getting EXACTLY what you want and chroming the hell out of it. Its about vision and creativity. Its about Macintosh. (and its never about the money)

 

[Kethoticus]

MacBandit wrote...

$3,000 for a new dual-Ghz? Where? I just checked the Apple store and they're only $2,499.

Actually, that's based on the ACTUAL amount that your credit or debit card is charged. Think about it: after you configure the system the way you'll actually need it (not the bare-bones config) plus delivery charges and sales tax, and you're talking at least US$3,000.

 

[Kethoticus]

cr2sh wrote...

Its not about having the best and the fastest, the newest the whitest.. its about getting EXACTLY what you want and chroming the hell out of it.

What if "exactly what I want" is the fastest??

Its about vision and creativity. Its about Macintosh.

Whoa. That was... beautiful.

(and its never about the money)

You're Apple's favorite kind of customer.

 

[synergy]

Re: MacBandit wrote...

Originally posted by Kethoticus


Actually, that's based on the ACTUAL amount that your credit or debit card is charged. Think about it: after you configure the system the way you'll actually need it (not the bare-bones config) plus delivery charges and sales tax, and you're talking at least US$3,000.

If you configure anything other than the video card on it you are wasting your money. Buy the ram cheaper from elsewhere.

 

[MacBandit]

Re: MacBandit wrote...

Originally posted by Kethoticus


Actually, that's based on the ACTUAL amount that your credit or debit card is charged. Think about it: after you configure the system the way you'll actually need it (not the bare-bones config) plus delivery charges and sales tax, and you're talking at least US$3,000.

I have one of the new Dual DDR/Dual Ghz and it was $2,443 (education discount) out the door with 512MB of Ram. Yes I did opt for the GF4MX because I'm waiting for the ATI 9700 but $2,443 is a long cry from $3,000. By the way I live in Oregon there is no Sales Tax.

 

[ClassicMac]

Heh, too bad these babies cant go in my 9600...

 

[Kethoticus]

MacBandit...

...you scribed:

I have one of the new Dual DDR/Dual Ghz and it was $2,443 (educatrion discount) out the door with 512MB of Ram. Yes I did opt for the GF4MX because I'm waiting for the ATI 9700 but $2,443 is a long cry from $3,000. By the way I live in Oregon there is no Sales Tax.

That's what works for you, then. But I get no educational discount and I DO hafta pay sales tax.


Synergy wrote:

If you configure anything other than the video card on it you are wasting your money. Buy the ram cheaper from elsewhere.

This makes sense, only I've found myself always going at least $500 above the base config price no matter what I did.

 

[cr2sh]

Re: cr2sh wrote...

Originally posted by Kethoticus

You're Apple's favorite kind of customer.

Apple's favorite customers are those who don't buy new computers but instead buy 3rd party upgrades and mod their machine?

 

[groovebuster]

Re: MacBandit...

Originally posted by Kethoticus
That's what works for you, then. But I get no educational discount and I DO hafta pay sales tax.

Bu then you also have to pay sales tax on the upgrade card, which makes it even more expensive... Whart was your point again?

groovebuster

 

[MacBandit]

Re: Re: MacBandit...

Originally posted by groovebuster


Bu then you also have to pay sales tax on the upgrade card, which makes it even more expensive... Whart was your point again?

groovebuster

In the land of inequalites.....

You can make anything good when you leave out half the facts.

 

[Kethoticus]

The Upgrade Debate Continues...

Cr2sh wrote:

Apple's favorite customers are those who don't buy new computers but instead buy 3rd party upgrades and mod their machine?

Just messin' with ya. There was no malicious intent in that post.


groovebuster wrote:

Bu then you also have to pay sales tax on the upgrade card, which makes it even more expensive... Whart was your point again?

Well obviously you felt that I had a point to make, otherwise you wouldn't have written a response to it.

That being said, I have been rethinking this (after reading a good post over at Maccentral). If I bought a new dual-867, I would probably spend around $2,000, after all was said and done. Now, I could sell my B&W, which would get me about $600 (at least, possibly more, especially the way it's hooked up). That makes the total cost for me a max of $1,400. Subtract from that the fastest dual-processor upgrade from Powerlogix, which I think is around $1,200. Let's say $1,000, just to really push my argument. That leaves $400 extra that I lay out, for which I get AGP, a faster system bus and an additional PCI slot.

Is it worth it? Yeah, I think so.

 

[cr2sh]

Re: The Upgrade Debate Continues...

Originally posted by Kethoticus
Just messin' with ya. There was no malicious intent in that post.

Cool yo. But you have to admit.. my vision of the ultimate cube, is pretty cool. Even of it is costly. 🙂

 

[groovebuster]

Re: The Upgrade Debate Continues...

Originally posted by Kethoticus
Cr2sh wrote:
Well obviously you felt that I had a point to make, otherwise you wouldn't have written a response to it.

That being said, I have been rethinking this (after reading a good post over at Maccentral). If I bought a new dual-867, I would probably spend around $2,000, after all was said and done. Now, I could sell my B&W, which would get me about $600 (at least, possibly more, especially the way it's hooked up). That makes the total cost for me a max of $1,400. Subtract from that the fastest dual-processor upgrade from Powerlogix, which I think is around $1,200. Let's say $1,000, just to really push my argument. That leaves $400 extra that I lay out, for which I get AGP, a faster system bus and an additional PCI slot.

Is it worth it? Yeah, I think so.

If you mean that the new machine is worth it, I am totally with you! 🙂

Especially since the upgrade really costs 1,200$, which is the official pricing. Leaves only 200$ price difference...

groovebuster

 

[Kethoticus]

Cool yo. But you have to admit.. my vision of the ultimate cube, is pretty cool. Even of it is costly.

A dual-processor Cube? You're talking toaster, dude. But hey, if it can be done, that'd be one sweet little box. A lotta power in a little space.

If you mean that the new machine is worth it, I am totally with you!

Especially since the upgrade really costs 1,200$, which is the official pricing. Leaves only 200$ price difference...

Yeah, the point is made even more so when you take into account the fact that I could probably sell my 350MHz B&W, outfitted with a gig of RAM, 150GB total HD space, and a Radeon board, all for more than my conservative estimate of $600.

 

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Kethoticus


A dual-processor Cube? You're talking toaster, dude. But hey, if it can be done, that'd be one sweet little box. A lotta power in a little space.




Yeah, the point is made even more so when you take into account the fact that I could probably sell my 350MHz B&W, outfitted with a gig of RAM, 150GB total HD space, and a Radeon board, all for more than my conservative estimate of $600.

So how much do you think my B/W G3 400Mhz, 768megs Ram, 45gig 7200rpm drive, 6gig OEM drive, Radeon PCI, SCSI card OEM, DVD, Zip, internal modem would be worth with 10.2 installed?

 

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I would be more than happy to put the new Powerlogix Dual-Gig. processor board in my Cube. I don't need 4 PCI slots, or a large computer footprint. I bought the Cube because it was streets ahead of it's time - and there was nothing out there that could compare when it came on the scene. If I had the gift of foresight, I'd STILL buy the Cube - it's design is an actual work of art.

With this upgrade, I'd give the Cube at least another 5 years of life (especially when paired with a GeForce 3 card, which fits in nicely too!).

😀

Quick sidenote:

www.cube-zone.com reports that Powerlogix currently only recommends the dual-800Mhz chips to be used with the Cubes, due to the big drain on the power supply. This will be addressed when Motorola pulls their finger out and releases a 1 Ghz chip with a lower power consumption - apparently, this quarter. This will also pave the way for even faster dual-processor upgrades...

 

[Kethoticus]

So how much do you think my B/W G3 400Mhz, 768megs Ram, 45gig 7200rpm drive, 6gig OEM drive, Radeon PCI, SCSI card OEM, DVD, Zip, internal modem would be worth with 10.2 installed?

I couldn't give you an accurate estimate, but if I had to guess, I'd conservatively estimate a figure of around $700. If you get a genuine offer, let me know how much it is.