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Production of 7.85-Inch iPad Reportedly Moving Closer as More Suppliers Named
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Quit posting these stories.
It's not going to happen. You know why? Because Steve Jobs said it wouldn't. If it does happen, that's how you know the management at Apple has broken down, and if you have stock in Apple that's when you should take it out.
Digitimes is just pulling straws out of the air here, we have not seen any leaked parts for this 7.85" iPad whatsoever, which should be a bit suspicious seeing that the iPad 3 is due for announcement in 2 days. It's. Not. Gonna. Happen.
It's not going to happen. You know why? Because Steve Jobs said it wouldn't. If it does happen, that's how you know the management at Apple has broken down, and if you have stock in Apple that's when you should take it out.
Digitimes is just pulling straws out of the air here, we have not seen any leaked parts for this 7.85" iPad whatsoever, which should be a bit suspicious seeing that the iPad 3 is due for announcement in 2 days. It's. Not. Gonna. Happen.
Brain dead argument. Digitimes reported it. Now they're linking to another Taiwain company that's also talking about a smaller iPad and Samsung had a document leak (they never planned it to be public) talking about the inevitability of a smaller iPad.
How many sources do you need?
I thing there is a market for a smaller one...
Dont's sell it as iPad mini, but as iPod XL....
They won't do it.. it think, but i bed my ass they would sell millions of them.
Drop the iPod touch to. 179dollar
The Nano to 119
And introduce a iPodXL for about 259...
No 3g only wifi..
Medium graphics.. so there is the "better" iPad,
6 inch,
Less battery life than iPad,
Only front camera,
Dont's sell it as iPad mini, but as iPod XL....
They won't do it.. it think, but i bed my ass they would sell millions of them.
Drop the iPod touch to. 179dollar
The Nano to 119
And introduce a iPodXL for about 259...
No 3g only wifi..
Medium graphics.. so there is the "better" iPad,
6 inch,
Less battery life than iPad,
Only front camera,
Why would you do that? The iPod brand is synonymous with music. The iPod Touch plays games and other things but when you say iPod it means music to people.
iPads signify a tablet...more of a generalized product. Web access, music, video and games can all be done.
There's little point in building iPad brand name awareness and then throwing it away.
iPads signify a tablet...more of a generalized product. Web access, music, video and games can all be done.
There's little point in building iPad brand name awareness and then throwing it away.
Yeah, that's the problem.
They've been plugging for a mini iPad since the iPad 1 came out, and have been saying a mini iPad would be announced last year, and then this year. The announcement date for this fictitious iPad from Digitimes has gradually been moved forward over the course of about a year now, and it has never materialized.
So if you're not going to take what Digitimes says with a giant bag of salt, that's your problem.
You are making the assumption that there is any truth to this. Did you see "Digitimes" in the article? Digitimes is an abbreviation for "we have no clue, so we just make things up, and if we make enough things up then something must be true, just by chance".
These things go round in circles. So Digitimes reports a rumor. Samsung either believes it and a document leaks by accident, or Samsung pretends to believe it and leaks a document on purpose, so we now have two sources with one copying the other. Then another Taiwan company repeats what Digitimes is saying, so we have three sources. Add "nickinfutz" making it four sources. Surely with four sources it must be true?
Now _that_ is not an argument. Steve Jobs always said this and that wouldn't happen, right up to the moment where it happened and then it would be the greatest thing on earth.
See above. When Jobs said he hated something that meant nothing more than "Apple is not selling it right now". And that meant nothing more than "it is not in Apple's best interest right now to sell this". It _might_ be that the idea was stupid, it might be that the time was not there yet to implement the idea in the necessary quality, it might be that it would distract from other products, or that there is just a limit to how many new products Apple can show every year. What it never meant was that Jobs would never change his mind.
I really wonder what you're smoking. Exactly what Apple products were on which Samsung assembly line, and what information did Samsung get that way that they couldn't get by going to an Apple store, buying an iPod, an iPhone and an iPad, and taking them apart carefully? You don't need spies in the production line to copy the iPad design if that's what you want to do, you just order one directly from Apple.
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Don't care about Digitimes really but when I start to see others talking about 7.85 iPads I start to listen a bit more.
Then I ask myself does a smaller iPad make sense and it does to me provided it offers a couple of things.
1. Cheaper price. $299 entry.
2. Good battery and display
3. Decent gaming performance
4. Less weight
Not everyone wants to carry around over a pound especially if you plan to do some reading.
Then I ask myself does a smaller iPad make sense and it does to me provided it offers a couple of things.
1. Cheaper price. $299 entry.
2. Good battery and display
3. Decent gaming performance
4. Less weight
Not everyone wants to carry around over a pound especially if you plan to do some reading.
People want convenience. Thats all there is to it. If the 7.8 tablet is more convenient to take out, carry around, and hold for a prolonged amount of time, you bet there are people who will want one. BTW, most people just use a tablet for media consumption, so the 10 inch ipad is less convenient, yet not more useful for them.
Whenever SJ dismissed an idea, it meant he was doing it.
FACT: Whenever Steve Jobs would take time to ridicule an idea in front of the press -- an iPod that could play videos, for example -- it usually meant he was already working on it.
I have no doubt that, for at least a year, they've had the smaller version spec'd, prototyped, vetted and ready to roll, awaiting for the day markets showed any signs of wanting it. That has clearly arrived and OF COURSE Apple is concerned about Kindle Fire popularity, no matter what Tim Cook tells the media. It's going to happen this year and SJ probably even blessed the announcement day, sometime in September. I very much doubt it will be called an iPad, and would bet on it having something close to a retina display, which will make it far more desirable than Kindle Fire 2.
FACT: Whenever Steve Jobs would take time to ridicule an idea in front of the press -- an iPod that could play videos, for example -- it usually meant he was already working on it.
I have no doubt that, for at least a year, they've had the smaller version spec'd, prototyped, vetted and ready to roll, awaiting for the day markets showed any signs of wanting it. That has clearly arrived and OF COURSE Apple is concerned about Kindle Fire popularity, no matter what Tim Cook tells the media. It's going to happen this year and SJ probably even blessed the announcement day, sometime in September. I very much doubt it will be called an iPad, and would bet on it having something close to a retina display, which will make it far more desirable than Kindle Fire 2.
...and that could be what they call this new critter -- iPod touch HD, priced at $249 - $299.
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Exactly -- in fact, whenever he said something will never happen, you could practically take it to the bank that he was working on it and didn't want anyone to beat him to market.
Rinse ..lather repeat. I've heard the naysayers at every level.
Apple's not going to do a phone. They can't beat Nokia
Apple's not going to do Tablets...everyone has failed there
What really matters is "Does it makes sense?"
The case for a smaller iPad is pretty clear if you look at it objectively. Kindles don't come in just one size so why should a more general purpose device like an iPad come in one size?
All good guesses, except for battery life (Apple's obsessive about this) and graphics, which will be whatever it needs to be to make app-scaling easy.
It's not iPad Mini, it's iPad Micro. After all it's smaller than modern phones.
I don't think when Steve said that 9.7 " was the right size that he was all along planning on making a smaller one. If it's such a no brainer and so easy to do, we would have seen it before now. It wouldn't take them from before the iPad launch to now to do it. There is no technical reason why they can't do it and it would take them this long if they were doing it.
I'm not sure when Jobs said no one wants movies on their iPod, but I'd bet it was before the Touch. I'm sure their movie sales didn't take of until the iPhone and touch came out, because not many people do want to pay for movies to watch on a 2" screen. A bigger screen made it work.
I don't think there is an education market for a smaller iPad. Cheaper maybe considering how little the US invests in education. Who wants to read their textbooks on something the size of a small notepad? The iPad size is close to an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper. That size is what people read lots of things on, and I think that is why it was chosen. If my school had textbooks on 7 inch tablets, I would be miserable trying to read educational material. Maybe for a novel where layout doesn't help illuminate key points and organize info, the small size would be ok. But for textbooks I think something as close to existing books' pages is the right answer.
I don't think people complaining about how heavy the iPad currently is read many textbooks. Most weigh around 2 lbs. I'm a pretty skinny guy yet I can muster the power to hold an iPad to read.
There are already many companies filling the cheap phablet category, why not buy one of those?
I'm not sure when Jobs said no one wants movies on their iPod, but I'd bet it was before the Touch. I'm sure their movie sales didn't take of until the iPhone and touch came out, because not many people do want to pay for movies to watch on a 2" screen. A bigger screen made it work.
I don't think there is an education market for a smaller iPad. Cheaper maybe considering how little the US invests in education. Who wants to read their textbooks on something the size of a small notepad? The iPad size is close to an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper. That size is what people read lots of things on, and I think that is why it was chosen. If my school had textbooks on 7 inch tablets, I would be miserable trying to read educational material. Maybe for a novel where layout doesn't help illuminate key points and organize info, the small size would be ok. But for textbooks I think something as close to existing books' pages is the right answer.
I don't think people complaining about how heavy the iPad currently is read many textbooks. Most weigh around 2 lbs. I'm a pretty skinny guy yet I can muster the power to hold an iPad to read.
There are already many companies filling the cheap phablet category, why not buy one of those?
Apple is not going to present developers with more than 3 iOS resolutions to support.
Today:
480x320 for the iPhone 3GS
960x640 for the iPhone 4, 4s
1024x768 for the iPad.
Q4 2012:
3GS is gone
960x640 for the iPhone 4,4s
1024x768 for the iPad and iPad2 and iPad mini
2048- 1536 for iPad 3
No additional resolutions will apply
Today:
480x320 for the iPhone 3GS
960x640 for the iPhone 4, 4s
1024x768 for the iPad.
Q4 2012:
3GS is gone
960x640 for the iPhone 4,4s
1024x768 for the iPad and iPad2 and iPad mini
2048- 1536 for iPad 3
No additional resolutions will apply
Only in an Apple forum is there always so much worry over anything that provides more choice.
No wonder Jobs said he didn't ask customers what they thought products should be like.
No wonder Jobs said he didn't ask customers what they thought products should be like.
Jobs didn't listen to what customers said should come out because Apple is not a restaurant. Variety is best served with multiple companies focusing, not one company trying to market any idea that comes along, even if it is a good one.
Products don't make it to market because a few people say "I want this."
And from the looks of the success of Apple with Steve, vs without, I think he didn't need to listen to what people say should be made.
I just had to add, Apple in no way restricts my choice. If they don't make something I want, I buy it from someone who does. I choose Apple products because find them to be the best experience.
Linux is an example where variety can be paralyzing, not empowering.
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