You don't own one, do you? Between plex and an ever growing selection of home media/NAS streaming solutions, Showtime, Netflix, HBO, CBS, NBC - Amazon prime video on the way, BBC iPlayer in development for the UK - This is an open platform. It is the exact opposite of 'closed off'.
Compared to other video boxes, maybe? I haven't used other boxes. We've been using various Mac Minis for 10 years as an audio/video server. "Closed" means you can only install apps approved by Apple. That means that freedom is at Apple's discretion. Not that I watch porn, but will Apple seriously approve porn apps (or other media protected by free speech, but not considered politically correct)? Nope, didn't think so. While today, Apple's limitations of freedom seem ok (at least to me), that does not mean that I want to install technology that is not open for me to use legally as I see fit. Tell me I will always be able to install any app I want on the Apple TV and I'm good to go. Tell me I have to live in Apple's politically correct world and I'm not.
The "walled garden" limitations were acceptable with phones because of the impact on the carrier network and the phone was never meant to be a general media device, having these limitation on my home TV is not acceptable. It is just like Samsung saying they have installed video analysis software that prevents naked bodies from being displayed, since it might damage their corporate image (Ok bad example, because it is impossible to damage Samsung's corporate image, but I think you get the point).
Now it may be convenient and it may be cost effective, but only if you are willing to ignore how the technology can be used in the future to control your behavior. I want openness and freedom and am willing to vote with my pocketbook. Our forefathers voted for freedom with their lives and here we are giving up our freedom bit by bit just because its free, cheap or convenient.
But I paid regular money for it. And its outdated already.
That's complete nonsense.
If ATV 4 wasn't ready for prime time why release it.
The remote is not horrible. And the functionality it provides in conjunction with the ATV itself is amazing compared to previous generations. But it could use some tweaking. The design needs to be more asymmetrical, so you know when you pick it up in the dark which end is the bottom, and can then operate it without looking at it.
Also, while this isn't a huge deal I have noticed that when the remote is sitting on my nightstand and I reach over to push the Siri button to issue a command it doesn't hear me well enough to work. Why? Because the microphone is on the bottom. So you have to pick up the remote to use Siri.
I see your points, but they apply to most if not all set top boxes. I do not see a future where there will be boxes that allow apps from other platforms etc to be installed without limitations.
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In general, the fact that Apple "restricts" as a process is not a reason for me personally to not use their products. Actually the amount of stuff coming through their "wall" is still much larger and of higher quality than what comes through on other set top boxes, so I think they are doing it right.
I sure hope it is a rumor. Bigger, better, faster in just 3 mos? Here I thought I was getting the latest and greatest and now in 3 months it will be an older model, of course after the return period. UGH!
damn hate hate. True, no 4K YET but other than that it's just opinion.
Please Please Please have 4K!!!
Not wasting money purchasing one without it... Not holding my breath though.
Cue more hate for 4K... or pretty much any technology Apple chooses not to adopt... I've been enjoying a 4K TV for a while now. It is stunning and even upscaled 1080p looks better than 1080p on a HD TV (Kept the old TV next to the new one for comparison). My mind goes back to when the Apple TV 2 was not 1080p... the same old arguments came out until Apple adopted it on the Apple TV 3.
Sorry, but you're wrong. See the posted chart from earlier in the thread. You'd have to sit 5-7 feet from a 50" set to tell it from a 1080p one of the same size and I don't know too many that watch TV at 5 feet away. People see the 4K demos in the store and stand right in front of it (2-3 feet and go WOW!) They take it home and it looks sharp at 20 feet. But what they don't realize is that 1080P set looks just as sharp at 20 feet. Your eyes can't resolve detail beyond a certain distance and that's a scientific FACT. But then a lot of people don't believe in science these days based on the news regarding various subjects so I can't be too shocked with "nonsense" statements.
"Upscaled 1080p" is still 1080p for the purpose of an Apple TV discussion.
I call ********. When have Apple ever superseded a brand new product inside of 12 months? Click-bait trash.
Your wrong and you clearly don't own one...
I'd like to buy a Apple TV when I upgrade my MBP late next year. Although I have to buy a TV Set first.
Reminds me of Tim Cook's botched reveal of the NEW new iPad leaving people like me who'd just bought the then new iPad with an old new iPad
Thank god I didn't buy this thing , something told me something wasn't quite right...