Nobody makes them work there and nobody makes you use the products they make. Its their countries (PRC and ROC), and whatever they do in their own boarders, so long as it does not affect this country, is their business.
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Nobody makes them work there and nobody makes you use the products they make. Its their countries (PRC and ROC), and whatever they do in their own boarders, so long as it does not affect this country, is their business.
This guy is speaking out of his butt. One thing Americans are best at in the world is turning on a dime when markets change. If anything, this article is PR for an IPO on an Asian stock market. The biggest problem with China is its complacent, "take orders and don't question" mindset of the masses with few calling the shots. It is like steering a 100,000 displacement tons ship.
For example, I was managing a very mixed group of software developers from different cultures all over the world at a start-up a few years ago in Mt. View. One guy kept on coming to me and asking "What do I do next?" daily. For my first month of managing that group this recent immigrant didn't originate a single idea the entire first phase of the project. Whenever I ask for his opinion, he would just say, "I'll follow your directions."
Time went on and I moved him from a developer to a test position and told him not to write anymore code and check for compatibility issues. He never originated any ideas and just kept on following directions. When it came time to review his code, it was par for a second year CS major just doing what was needed and nothing else. No optimization, no performance checks, no API validations, it "just worked as instructed."
My most critical performance review was of him and listed one of his issues as "no origination of original ideas nor opinion." This guy went ballistic when he got his review and started to scream "I did everything you said!" Later I learned on that in his culture, original ideas were only permitted from the top of his society and it went down to where he just followed orders. That robot mindset carried into him working in the States.
That example is the major flaw of most eastern cultures with some exceptions here and there. Foxconn is a classic "Do what the man says and do it cheaply." When I read they just bought more equipment to run the iPhone 4 antenna frame manufacturing faster, I laughed out loud. A good CM would invent a faster manufacturing process and not pour on the additional equipment and labor just to make it faster.
This is where America excels IMO. When the world things they have America by the balls, we grow more balls in places they can't even reach. This recession is going to create innovations that the European socialists and eastern masses will not understand for decades.
That is what I'm betting on.
In fact, professional athletes, mostly college basketball and football programs are some of the most profitable parts of modern universities. A few make the pros and good for them. Most of these guys are on scholarship and the can take advantage of their ride to get a good education while they help profit the school or just party and become bums after their eligibility runs out.
A few years ago, one guy came to me when I was managing and was told he has a CS Degree on a football scholarship from a major university. While he was nicely dressed and wore the ring from the bowl game he played in, I told him that got him in the front door and it is time to see what you are made of inside. I didn't give this guy any slack.
After an hour of hardcore technical questions on coding and software development methodologies, I was impressed. While he didn't make the NFL draft, he used his ride right and got a good education that he could use in the real world. I worked with this guy 'til the day I left that outfit. We are still on good terms with each other and he still uses me as a job reference.
There is an slang dictionary out there that under the term "Ivy League" there is the definition "A place where rich families mostly waist money on extending the childhood of their descendants with few making a profit."
If that is the case, then you should question all the American companies who trust him, and nobody else, to produce their hardware.
You mean people with an American passport or the native Americans? I mean without all these people from all these countries, the 'Americans' would still be living in caves.
No. You should re-read the article. Let's start with this:
"For Western consumers, the lost lives were an invitation to consider the real cost of their electronic playthings. For the image-conscious companies with which Foxconn does business, including IBM (IBM), Cisco (CSCO), Microsoft (MSFT), Nokia (NOK), Sony, Hewlett-Packard (HPQ), and Apple (AAPL), the suicides were a public-relations nightmare and a challenge to offshoring strategies essential to their bottom lines."
It was more like "Deal with it or..."
And yet most [American] companies are still top heavy. You also may want to read into "unions" [labor history 101] because without these unions nothing goes like it should. And China is changing, and rapidly, just like America has to adjust to changes. And one of these days everyone has a window in his/her office, just like the rule that is written in stone for EU countries. Simple isn't it.
That's just one story. I could add so many more positive stories, but what's the point?
And reinvent the wheel? And not being able to deliver the products in time?
BTW: Foxconn has a pretty impressive patent portfolio already. Even larger than say Apple.
Like when? You mean like when China [Foxconn] says: "F... you" [to Apple] since nobody else can deliver? Especially not for a little pocket change because we, the consumers, are likely not willing to pay more for our products
You are joking, right?
Exactly. There is such a sense of entitlement, fed in large part by the unions, that we are just not equipped to compete in many industries.
You want to discover yourself. Walk in front of a mirror. Now you discovered yourself. Fork of the $100K in tuition to me instead of some socially isolated retreat where one can hide their personal transgressions in the name of "social research."
The Great Forgetting
Sorry, I wish you were correct but your statement is false. Nobody in China under the age of 20 has even heard of the Tienanmen Square events.
"My students don't know what it is," says a professor at a city university in Shanghai who witnessed the protests as a teenager. "You say June Fourth and they say, 'What, my birthday'?"
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Great-Forgetting-20-Ye/44267
Sorry, I wish you were correct but your statement is false. Nobody in China under the age of 20 has even heard of the Tienanmen Square events.
"My students don't know what it is," says a professor at a city university in Shanghai who witnessed the protests as a teenager. "You say June Fourth and they say, 'What, my birthday'?"
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Great-Forgetting-20-Ye/44267
Mind boggling figure. One company employing nearly 1 million people. That's something like 2 million dollars per hour in salaries alone. ;^/
137K iPhones per day! Even if Apple was not happy with Foxconn, where's the competition? Who else could supply such quantities?
Only a small percentage of those are making iPhones. There are several other tw OEM's that apple could use, HTC comes to mind, but there are others.
And it gets even more mind boggling, and equally more expensive, when they increase their workforce to 1.3 million next year.
I don't think there is a single company willing to order a thousand $20.000 machines, just to get started with the iPhone 4 case. Madness.
Oh my - you have life figured out.
Sadly you do not understand the point of college. You've been indoctrinated into a narrow belief system. And so many like you that the cost is what it is today.
The large tuition of most schools today comes from the belief that college is solely about being a career builder. It wasn't always like that.
For some reason I don't think you would be capable of understanding such a concept though.
PS - you responded to me twice. I must have struck a nerve.
LOL. That explains it.
It sounds like you, and many others on this board, are really conditioned to thinking one way. China isn't normal. China is a corporation's wet dream. It's a level of exploitation that wouldn't be possible if China didn't consistently violate human rights and subjugate large pockets of its population.
The alternative here is that the corporation doesn't have such ridiculous profit margins. Not realistic in our current time, yes I know, but God forbid we mention that option.
Did your education transitition to real life?
What kind of degree did you get? Did you get a degree that actually has employment possibilities? Did you grow up any in college? Any since?
What kind of degree did you get? Did you get a degree that actually has employment possibilities? Did you grow up any in college? Any since?
It is true that nobody can supply these kind of quantities, not HTC, no one. But yes, FIH is not the only one with the capability to make iPhones, just not the volume required by Apple.
Will this always be the case? Probably not, but for now, only FIH has got the scale to fulfill Apple.
i do not know how much he bend backward for apple.
I just know, his company treated the chinese employee very badly, they have to eat his fixed meal, even if they do not like it, they have to finish it.
They cannot talk to each other in factory, their toilet break are limited. If he want to treat chinese employee as slave worker, it is better for his company to invest in USA, and let the US justice system hammer him.
I just know, his company treated the chinese employee very badly, they have to eat his fixed meal, even if they do not like it, they have to finish it.
They cannot talk to each other in factory, their toilet break are limited. If he want to treat chinese employee as slave worker, it is better for his company to invest in USA, and let the US justice system hammer him.
Oh my - you have life figured out.
You sarcasm does not hide your envy. As Steve said, "What have you done to afford your criticism?"
Actually, I saw right through their game. The colleges are to indoctrinate you into the the belief system edicts of the university benefactors. Most are there to make you their glib and gullible servants so these people can stay on top of the social strata keeping any competition from buying them out of their country clubs, exclusive islands and private planes. Many got really upset when I wanted to get into those buildings on the campus that regularly had limousines park in front of but didn't hold any classes. They don't want me, I'm not a part of them!
At least I'm not holding rituals around a circle of redwood trees up around Roaring Camp near Santa Cruz. Was there for a wedding once. Way to many were disgracing that place using it as a stoner circle.
Apple isn't selling 83 million [6.9 * 12] iOS units [iPhone's/iPad 3G's] a year. It simply can't. Not devices that need that kind of activation. Might as well mean: "switched on" or "connected to iTunes".The iPod Touch andTV don't require activation. Neither do the wi-fi only iPads.
It's all about carefully chosen words [PR speak]. That's how I read it. Especially after reading the article about Terry Gou of Foxconn, who said that they produce 137.000 iPhones frames a day. So how should that work? I mean with ~3 million iPhone's rolling out of the factory, per month. Are you saying that Apple sells ~4 million iPad a month? Just for the 3G models?
Sorry, but I am not buying it.