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Prosser: Apple Watch Series 7 to Feature Flat-Edged Design, New Green Color Option

dsut4392 said:
Much as I would love it to be true, you know that's just an unsubstantiated rumour, right? No-one has demonstrated reliable non-invasive glucose sensing even in a theoretical paper yet, let alone in a sensor that can be packaged in an apple watch. Looking at the Dexcom share price, industry analysts obviously don't believe an apple watch is about to offer anything that competes with existing CGM. I'll have my insulin pump in space grey please.:)
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https://rockleyphotonics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Rockley-Sensing-Platform.mp4?_=1

https://rockleyphotonics.com/platform/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...dd-blood-sugar-alcohol-readings-deal-uk-tech/

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/03/apple-watch-blood-pressure-glucose-alcohol/
 
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rotax said:
https://rockleyphotonics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Rockley-Sensing-Platform.mp4?_=1

https://rockleyphotonics.com/platform/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...dd-blood-sugar-alcohol-readings-deal-uk-tech/

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/03/apple-watch-blood-pressure-glucose-alcohol/
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Not sure what you think those links add? Sure Rockley can package a sensor that would fit in a watch, but it's entirely unproven that any such transdermal sensor can be used to accurately and reliably measure blood glucose. Eversense have shown they can do it with a sub-cut implanted sensor, but that doesn't have to deal with variations in skin colour or hairiness, and is still subject to interference from stray light if the skin over the sensor isn't covered by its receiver and dark clothing. A watch worn on the wrist is going to be pretty hard to solve these practical problems for, even after the sensor itself is demonstrated. Not necessarily insurmountable problems for the DIY community, but very difficult to get through FDA for approved medical devices. "This watch is approved for use as a glucose monitor by white people with shaved arms wearing long sleeves fully covering the watch in full darkness only"?
 
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dsut4392 said:
Not sure what you think those links add? Sure Rockley can package a sensor that would fit in a watch, but it's entirely unproven that any such transdermal sensor can be used to accurately and reliably measure blood glucose. Eversense have shown they can do it with a sub-cut implanted sensor, but that doesn't have to deal with variations in skin colour or hairiness, and is still subject to interference from stray light if the skin over the sensor isn't covered by its receiver and dark clothing. A watch worn on the wrist is going to be pretty hard to solve these practical problems for, even after the sensor itself is demonstrated. Not necessarily insurmountable problems for the DIY community, but very difficult to get through FDA for approved medical devices. "This watch is approved for use as a glucose monitor by white people with shaved arms wearing long sleeves fully covering the watch in full darkness only"?
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You said "you know that's just an unsubstantiated rumour, right? No-one has demonstrated reliable non-invasive glucose sensing even in a theoretical paper yet" I think those links would say you are incorrect. There are many things that are unproven until they are. Apple is not investing in, and contracting with Rockley under a "supply and development agreement" because it's not even theoretical. Tim Cook's numerous statements about the future of wearables are also in-line.

To be clear and acknowledge to your point about accuracy, related to utility, for which all the rumors have not yet addressed. Just like Apple's ECG is not an EKG medically, it is still FDA approved for use and is very useful for everyone monitoring their heart health and to help determine when to seek medical attention. It may be that something like this would be a new class of blood glucose monitoring that provide ranges of blood sugar levels that are not exact and not intended be used for the purposes of medical treatment that e.g. a determination of how much insulin to use e.g. T1D that would require FDA Approval that certifies its accuracy to that level. Even if it was accurate enough Apple likely would not want that liability. It would however provide great feedback for a significant percentage of the population that want to monitor responses to intake of specific foods/quantities and help inform them how to change or manage their eating habits and lifestyle e.g T2D avoidance / management and who under no circumstance want to take insulin, which for T2D specifically IMHO is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic. Hence my original post.
 

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Dionte said:
I’m not getting the watch until I can video chat on it like inspector gadget did when I was a kid. Hoo hoo 🎼
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You mean like Dick Tracey did? :) [the issue though is the other person will just see up your nose and you'll have a huge neck...unless you keep your arm in front of you and most people can't hold their arm up at that angle for more than 2 minutes without it hurting and wanting to rest it..]
 
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Render looks thinner than current design. Band insertion seems same distance from bottom of watch, but much closer to face of watch. Crown would need to be smaller if that’s the case, and that would be an improvement. Squared off iPhone design makes it feel much thicker and harder to handle, and a major fail if Apple keeps the design as long as it kept the 6 design. (Given the functionality sacrifices iMac suffered in the name of Flat design, it looks like Apple has committed to this aesthetic at any cost.) You don’t ‘handle’ Watch in use, so might not matter here. Definitely a looks improvement. Not in any way desirable to anyone who wants a round, even chunky watch, but as always with Apple, you get what you get, customer demand be damned.
 
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I think it looks great and if accurate Apple seems to have been quite clever with the redesign. To me it looks as if existing watch straps will still fit and the fact that it doesn’t curve inwards at the edges of the display should mean that Apple can either put in slightly bigger screens for the same case sizes or shrink the height and width (x & y dimensions) of the case slightly but still have the same active display area. Also, putting the strap mounts higher up on the sides closer to the watch glass should make the watch look thinner on the wrist even if they don’t actually manage to reduce the thickness (z dimension).

Those 2 full length slits along the side are interesting. If they are the speaker slots then that is much more slot area than the two little side-by-side slots have on my S6. I’ve never once wished that my watch had more volume so putting in a bigger total speaker opening doesn’t seem that important to me. What I’d love to see there is the one single long speaker slot closest to the wrist as shown in the renders which would probably give a similar total area to my 2 S6 slots and then add a couple of extra recessed buttons like the one below the crown above the speaker slot. If I could then program single and double click actions for those buttons that would give me 4 extra capabilities such as workouts, Shazam, check-activity-rings etc that I could get to really quickly without needing to dedicate a complication to them.
 
macsplusmacs said:
That green is just light enough for me. after having the stainless steel since Apple watch 0, might switch.
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Don’t do it. I did it once thinking “eh, it’s not worth the extra cost and I’ll just be getting a new one next year”. They scratch so easily and after having the stainless, well I can personally say I’ll never go back again.
 
btrach144 said:
Just as long as the current bands work
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I think the bands are going to work for a long time to come, and maybe always? Unless they do some secondary/tertiary watch lines with different screen shapes and sizes. My reasoning is that other watches have standard watch band sizes that fit all sorts of different watches, so why wouldn't Apple, as they seemed to have really studied and implemented a lot of watch history/features in the Apple Watch. I also think they'd take way more **** about it from Watch users than they ever did from the 30-Pin to Lightning transition.
 
Eduardo1971 said:
That looks pretty-time to upgrade my Series 3 and my wife’s Series 4.
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I'm on a Series 6 and if they bring a new sensor, and I don't end up hopping over to the new Pixel Pro, I'll probably do the same. I went with the Blue, and while I've liked it as something different, I'll probably go back to something more neutral like Space Gray.
 
That green reminds me of the paint in my dad's office, same tinge. Anyway, I would spring for the band, if they had a band for those with large wrists. Mine are 9 inch (288.6mm), certainly there has to be more than one person in the world that way. Yet Apple doesn't I have one of those adjustable velcro and it works fine, but if I am going to pay a huge bundle for a watch band, I want it to fit me.
 
I’m itching to upgrade my S4 to the S7 this year. I’ve never kept an Apple Watch over 2 years, so this is a first for me. I have the 12 Pro Max so I can’t wait to get the S7.
 
Why stop halfway? Sharpen the edges!

But seriously: I prefer a design that doesn't get caught in anything by accident. The round one is so much better. Wouldn't mind the watch being thinner, but if that would cost battery life, hell no. Even now it's spending almost more time on a charger or on my wrist. Mostly because it's always out of power when I need to go so I need to leave it behind. It'd be nice if the battery lasted a full day (24h) without issues and it'd charge back to full while I'm taking the morning shower and drinking a cup of coffee. As it is, it's almost always on the charger and most of the time I forget it there when it's time to go. Measuring sleep is useless unless you charge it to full in the evening (and again, remember to put it back on your wrist before going to bed).

Seriously underwhelmed with the series 6. Even less so if they make it that much more cumbersome to live with.
 
I dunno how Prosser got it so right on the AirPods Max, but so wrong on practically everything else.
 
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