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It is annoying that Apple Password Manager doesn't allow you to store all kinds of other completely unrelated data.

Passports and other identifying documents are being added to the Apple Wallet.
Drivers licenses in less than 10% of US states.

There has been no mention of Passports. If you have reference, please provide link
 
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Couldn’t imagine PAYING for password managers. Easy enough to transfer this type of data without the use of a questionable 3rd party. At least companies like Apple, Google, or MS are heavy scrutinized albeit with accountable most times. 3rd parties will just fold on you.
A few years ago, iCloud keychain had a bizarre syncing error from a MacOS/iOS upgrade and all my passwords were gone. Apple support was utterly unhelpful and I had to spend a long time recovering everything from backups and lost some important ones that were hard to recover. After that, I signed up for 1password and have never looked back.

Sometimes paying for something yields a better and more reliable experience and I realized my time just wasn't worth it.

Separate Vaults and the ability to generate passwords cross platform and across browsers is a big plus as well if that's useful to you, and store different types of information cross platform as well. Sharing passwords also was improved.

Those abilities aren't useful to everyone, but with my life and work they were worth it to me.
 
Couldn’t imagine PAYING for password managers. Easy enough to transfer this type of data without the use of a questionable 3rd party. At least companies like Apple, Google, or MS are heavy scrutinized albeit with accountable most times. 3rd parties will just fold on you.
Somehow trusting my passwords to a company (i.e., Google) that helps the Communist Chinese spy on their people and others, does not seem like a smart thing to do.
 
This is nonsensical word salad. A hash algorithm is not an encryption function, by definition, as it's one-way. And the notion that an encryption method is strong enough to protect you from an internet intruder WHEN YOU'RE NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET is hilarious...

Was this written by AI?
Likely a blurb written by Marketing, but you get the idea: of course it's no encryption, but a cryptographic function used for password hashing, and they offer an offline/local mode where the hashes and other data are stored on-device, needing no remote access and exposing no data to misty clouds. Existence of a local mode is the first thing you check when you want a serious password manager, as well as no cloud syncs which are easy targets for agencies. Also, Argon2 (esp. Argon2id flavor) is well-studied and not so bad. First, password hashes were time-intensive (like 1 million hash iterations per password), but it was a benediction for state agencies, since they could afford the time, energy and parallelism while casual hackers couldn't. Then came memory-intensive hashes like Scrypt (iirc used by ethereum), which are more challenging for agencies since password attacks need huge amounts of memory, and later again came the Argon class which is both time and memory intensive and doesn't give the attackers easy time-memory tradeoffs (where you can attack using more of one and less of the other). The original Argon had flaws, hence Argon2 and its most secure flavor Argon2id (don't know which one Proton is using). Looking for "Argon2 vs Scrypt", here's a nice blog page not written by Marketing: https://stytch.com/blog/argon2-vs-bcrypt-vs-scrypt/
As for Proton, their founders came from CERN (the european particles research lab) but they're totally private and unrelated now. They comply to Swiss law (of course) and must provide means to track users, as was made clear some time ago. They seem to chase Apple users, charging high prices and changing their protonmail.com to proton.me
 
I'm already somewhat familiar with Proton, and I understand the crypto.

Existence of a local mode is the first thing you check when you want a serious password manager, as well as no cloud syncs which are easy targets for agencies.

This seems to me to be a recurring failure of analysis in these discussions.

Relying on physical security is a bad idea. Much better to assume that your storage is accessible to state-level actors, or really any motivated adversary. The whole point of really good encryption is that it shouldn't matter.

The biggest issue I see with 1P is that they require you to use their javascript client, at least for a few functions. That means that if it is compromised (or if, in the future, 1p becomes evil) they can steal your password there. Of course if they're evil, they can also steal your password directly from their app, but the javascript is a much bigger target. You're also exposed to evil in the web browser itself.

I will admit that this makes me uncomfortable, but so far the tradeoff has been worth making. If I were just picking a password manager for myself, though, instead of my whole family, I would pick one that did not have this flaw.
 
Ice now requires you give a donation, even if it's zero dollars in order to download it from gumroad. I cannot download it from github.
 
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