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I have been an Apple customer for decades, and an iOS customer since it was invented.

and since iOS was invented you knew you couldn't download apps from Safari. 18+ years yet you did nothing to make an attempt to switch to a platform that lets you download apps.
 
I can't install Nintendo Switch games on my Playstation 5. This has been going on well before iPhone existed.

Can't migrate all of my Switch games to my Playstation 5.

Must replace all of my Nintendo Switch controllers with Playstation 5 controllers.
No, but the games industry has a choice of over a dozen different platforms all offering you choice over where you buy your games from. Don't like the prices Nintendo charge? Get yourself to GameStop or CDKeys.

Or to put it another way your iPhone 15 case doesn't fit your iPhone 16.
 
Isn’t Proton a nonprofit? If they have enough money to take on Apple, they are definitely making some profit.
Well, they're totally for-profit, and founded after Snowden reveals by CERN scientists (European Center for Nuclear Research). Founding fathers quickly left CERN to run the private company, now as a foundation. Two good points:
(1) they offer End-to-End Encryption (E2EE), ensuring Proton-to-Proton mails can't be decrypted on their servers
(2) They're enjoying good buzz as they fight lawmakers efforts to destroy e-mail privacy. However they comply with Swiss law (of course!) and provide Law & Order with whatever isn't E2E encrypted, such as metadata, server connection logs, and Proton-to-NonProton mail content.
 
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No, but the games industry has a choice of over a dozen different platforms

Many flavors of Android. But that's beside the point. Your current investment of apps/hardware doesn't get carried over so those arguments aren't valid.

Don't like the prices Nintendo charge? Get yourself to GameStop or CDKeys.

Nintendo still makes money from every sale of new copies from GameStop/CDKeys
 
You’re making a moral arguement, not a legal one.
I didn’t make an argument at all. I asked a question, and you projected some strawman arguments on top of it.

This is of meaningless importance, but I’ll engage. It’s only Apple’s platform in the sense that they hold the keys to it.

Apple didn’t build it alone. Third party developers have collectively put way more time into the platform than Apple has. If we were awarding money based on merit, developers would be getting a cut of iPhone sales instead of Apple getting a cut of app sales. The iPhone would only exist in history books today if they didn’t open up to third party apps when they did.

Again this doesn’t matter. What matters is that Apple is the gatekeeper to a market with a GDP greater than many small countries. How they came to be a monopoly doesn’t really matter. What matters is how they are leveraging that position to isolate themselves from competition and market forces.

This is easy to understand, but that’s a step you have to take yourself.
None of that answers my question. I’m all for regulating Apple if they are found to have violated antitrust law. I just think alt stores are a poor remedy.
 
Many flavors of Android. But that's beside the point. Your current investment of apps/hardware doesn't get carried over so those arguments aren't valid.



Nintendo still makes money from every sale of new copies from GameStop/CDKeys
But they don't have a monopoly over the distribution of software to a billion devices.

And actually yes, my current investment of games and peripherals does get carried over.

PS5 plays PS4 games, older PSN purchases and works with PS4 controllers.

Switch 2 works with all Switch 1 games and accessories.

My Xbox Series X plays discs I bought back in 2003.
 
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You think apples own apps are subject to the rules they enforce on 3rd parties?

Yes. They certainly pay for access. Apple isn't a monolith. Each department will have a cost center, each app will have a Product Manager with a budget. And they all utilize Apple's payment systems by default - hell, even if they set up a subscription service on the web they'd still be using Apple's payment systems.
 
It is incredibly selfish when that takes away the opportunity for a closed ecosystem from everyone who want one when an open alternative already exists that you can’t be bothered to use.

But we’re never going to agree, so disengaging here.

Selfish are the $3 trillion corporations. Foolish are their defenders. Users telling others to leave because they want to turn a blind eye to Apple's faults seems pretty selfish from my pov as well. My 2c.

Hardly anyone choses the iPhone because it is a closed ecosystem (the numbers will be higher here, but most iPhone users aren't here). The closed nature of the App Store probably isn't in the top 10 reasons of why most people buy an iPhone. It's be a false dichotomy anyway, as Google is just as big of a monopolist on the Android side too (try using one without Play Services). Switching just invites a new set of issues to critique, it doesn't solve the problems with either platform.
 
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