Invest more in the Philippines as well. I think there are many options open for Apple to get the heck out of Red land.
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Proview Seeking to Cut Off Apple's Worldwide Supply of iPads
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Invest more in the Philippines as well. I think there are many options open for Apple to get the heck out of Red land.
There is always a 3rd option:
Just engrave the iPads in a different country. Ship them without the engraving and no device infringes any name right. Then, maybe just over the water in Taiwan, you engrave the back ot the iPads. Done.
And expensive... but I like your creative thinking. ;-)
There is no such thing as fuzzy when it comes to these things. Apple's lawyers screwed up.
Wow, I guess you do whatever sleaze tactics you can use.
Too bad the Foxconn factory in Brazil isn't ready.
Would be very nice for Apple to shift from China to elsewhere.
Though that just means iPad copies will be made in china and sold in china to all those people.
I see it as Apple was mislead in the buying arrangements.
Hearing some of the GOP debates and hearing a few lines, I think it was Santorum who said he'd offer Apple (among others) to bring in their $$ held overseas without any taxing as long as that money goes toward building parts in the US. Sounds great but $ is $$$$$.
Too bad the Foxconn factory in Brazil isn't ready.
Would be very nice for Apple to shift from China to elsewhere.
Though that just means iPad copies will be made in china and sold in china to all those people.
I see it as Apple was mislead in the buying arrangements.
Hearing some of the GOP debates and hearing a few lines, I think it was Santorum who said he'd offer Apple (among others) to bring in their $$ held overseas without any taxing as long as that money goes toward building parts in the US. Sounds great but $ is $$$$$.
Apple will do what any other big corporate company does. They will simply buy off the government. Nothing to see hear move along.
They would have to make realistic profits if they manufactured their products in the USA. I love Apple, but I'm not paying $100.00 *more* for an iPad, when there are some really nice alternatives. And I'm not paying hundreds more for my new MacBook Pro. And if I did, I wouldn't be buying them every (other) year, that's for sure. Apple couldn't add 24% to their prices and have to compete with all the other great products, which *also* come from China.
Side by side, you'd see, $249.99, $299.99, $349.99, $599.00... guess which one you aren't buying?
You know how quickly most average people would move on to another product? These are not nessecities. They are toys. People can do without them.
Yeah right .. as if that was even possible. I suggest you do a little walk around the house and pick 10 items at random .. chances are good at least half of those are produced in China.
Apple will settle with them and everything forgotten in a couple of days.
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Presumably Apple has a simultaneous claim against the parent Proview
I'm wondering why the news stories don't mention the parent company in more detail. Whatever the Chinese subsidiary might extract from Apple - Apple just turns around and claims against the parent.
I'm wondering why the news stories don't mention the parent company in more detail. Whatever the Chinese subsidiary might extract from Apple - Apple just turns around and claims against the parent.
Nope. Apple will leave. The US has seen from many companies; No one has to stay. So many countries want to manufacture the most popular devices on the planet.
Sure, it's a technicality, but ....
I guess I'm left wondering why we should disregard a legal trademarked name, simply because Apple didn't have all their ducks in a row when they attempted to purchase the rights?
I mean, if the tables were turned, I'm pretty sure Apple would be kicking and screaming about someone using one of their trademarked names, even if they only still held it due to a technicality when someone else screwed up while trying to purchase global usage rights.
IMO, Apple could play this game two different ways. First, they could take advantage of the way China's corrupt govt. works and just play hardball. Don't give Proview an inch, and let China's own govt. shoot them down when they start making demands that would effectively take all of Apple's iPad manufacturing business from the country.
Second, they could do the right thing, and settle this with Proview in court. That does mean a lame little company scores a big payoff from Apple, but that's the way this whole copyright and trademark game is played. You win some and you lose some. I don't see it as "rewarding bad behavior", so much as playing the game by the same rules you demand everyone else use when YOU trademark/patent/copyright your own stuff.
I guess I'm left wondering why we should disregard a legal trademarked name, simply because Apple didn't have all their ducks in a row when they attempted to purchase the rights?
I mean, if the tables were turned, I'm pretty sure Apple would be kicking and screaming about someone using one of their trademarked names, even if they only still held it due to a technicality when someone else screwed up while trying to purchase global usage rights.
IMO, Apple could play this game two different ways. First, they could take advantage of the way China's corrupt govt. works and just play hardball. Don't give Proview an inch, and let China's own govt. shoot them down when they start making demands that would effectively take all of Apple's iPad manufacturing business from the country.
Second, they could do the right thing, and settle this with Proview in court. That does mean a lame little company scores a big payoff from Apple, but that's the way this whole copyright and trademark game is played. You win some and you lose some. I don't see it as "rewarding bad behavior", so much as playing the game by the same rules you demand everyone else use when YOU trademark/patent/copyright your own stuff.
Mmmmm. Thats a bit of a dream. Re read this but instead use the perspective of the Chinese government. The rest of the world won't be boycotting anything made in China. In case you havent noticed China in en route to becoming the largest economic power all because of yours and mine governments greed and in favour of cheaper labour in China and the like. Pretty much everything is made in China. Its them that control pretty much everything economically the world over.
What makes you think Apple users will automatically start boycotting chinese products over this? The majority won't know or even care! Apple for most people isn't the most important thing in their lives.
When its convenient for them to do so.
Something just doesn't sit right with me when there are hundreds of thousands of people working in these facilities. I've read stories from leaked interviews where the workers drop things on purpose, as they can actually take a second off of their feet and rest. Worker's can't even tell you the names of people they work with because there are so many and you have no time to talk. Worker's basically never leave the factory grounds. They work there, eat there, sleep there, etc. Housing is provided for most of these workers. You basically give up your life to the employer. These conditions are very similar to what was happening in the USA at the turn of the 20th century. China is only 100 years or so out of touch.
But that is the problem of dealing with a communist state. Apple is really dealing with the Chinese government, not any company, as the government always has the final say. There is no capitalism as we know it.
Part of me always feels guilty about buying Apple, as I know the conditions these people work under. I don't buy Nike, and haven't, after learning of the conditions those workers endure. Maybe someday I won't buy Apple products.
Or maybe Apple can have one token plant in the USA, that makes "custom" computers, where people can buy them, pay a small premium, and help the country.
But that is the problem of dealing with a communist state. Apple is really dealing with the Chinese government, not any company, as the government always has the final say. There is no capitalism as we know it.
Part of me always feels guilty about buying Apple, as I know the conditions these people work under. I don't buy Nike, and haven't, after learning of the conditions those workers endure. Maybe someday I won't buy Apple products.
Or maybe Apple can have one token plant in the USA, that makes "custom" computers, where people can buy them, pay a small premium, and help the country.
Perhaps the story is true and Proview Taiwan only sold them the non-China rights?
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Yes but few with the capability or capacity to do so (at a cheap price).
Its amazing how the fanboys have their panties in a twist over the Proview/Ipad and at the same time believe that ITV should bugger off as they have only been around since 1955 cause apple might plan to bring out a TV called iTV.... Hypocrites much?
And the solution to all this... "Apple should buy x" Geez we really sound like a bunch of cool rich spoilt douchbags....
Apple just has to learn to share.... yes its a hard concept. In relation to the china issue, Apple has to learn to do their research, and get better lawyers who pay more attention.
Yes Apple is getting rolled, though its in the interest of both Apple and China for apple to remain in china. In a way this is the Chinese government showing who is boss, and then back to normal operation. Pocket change for Apple in the long run. Moving operation to another honest run 3rd world country..... yeah.... comeon!
And the solution to all this... "Apple should buy x" Geez we really sound like a bunch of cool rich spoilt douchbags....
Apple just has to learn to share.... yes its a hard concept. In relation to the china issue, Apple has to learn to do their research, and get better lawyers who pay more attention.
Yes Apple is getting rolled, though its in the interest of both Apple and China for apple to remain in china. In a way this is the Chinese government showing who is boss, and then back to normal operation. Pocket change for Apple in the long run. Moving operation to another honest run 3rd world country..... yeah.... comeon!
But considering over 50% of Apple customers are not from the USA, I'm not sure if these non USA people even care if the products are made on the USA or not. I'm sure they are only worried about how the construction and staffing of the Apple stores is providing local employment. And how nearby businesses are affected by it. Hospitality joints like cafes would boom. But Apple re-sellers have been put out of business by an Apple Store opening nearby.
So yeah there is a lot more then "made in the USA" to consider.