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I'm not sure the latter part is entirely true. I listen to a lot of niche bands and artists and the majority of them are available on Qobuz and YouTube Music, and IIRC Spotify as well. So if they are not represented on Apple Music, I'd change your sentence too "Anyone who has interests outside of mainstream can't rely on Apple Music".
A search for the cd I bought shows that none of those services have it (and I searched others). This is from an artist which has a new album coming in January, her 7th album. Why none of the services have that particular album in America is beyond me.
 
Likely some releases of Apple's drivers for their custom keyboard and mouse protocols don't see the new ones as matching, so it degrades to treat it like generic keyboards and mice that don't support things like encrypted fingerprint sensor protocol channels or multitouch 2d scroll surfaces.

If it was a BLE issue I would imagine they would be invisible rather than degrading.

Sooo...Would Seqoia on OCLP support it, or no?
 
Will probably get resolved over time with updates. These things just got released, so not unreasonable to have a slight delay while the software patches get updated and pushed.
TouchID I might be able to understand. Non-working function keys and scrolling functionality though? We're talking about things that have worked out-of-the-box on pretty much every computer in existence 20+ years. It is absolutely unreasonable to to have a "slight delay" while waiting for software to "fix" something that should never, ever break in the first place.
 
TouchID I might be able to understand. Non-working function keys and scrolling functionality though? We're talking about things that have worked out-of-the-box on pretty much every computer in existence 20+ years. It is absolutely unreasonable to to have a "slight delay" while waiting for software to "fix" something that should never, ever break in the first place.
exactly. The keys are just sending keycodes, and they shouldn't change because the keyboard was updated if the intended functionalities haven't changed.
 
Ever since I updated to 15.1 my superdrive no longer plays CDs. I know I'm opening myself up to ridicule here, but it's fine.
No, you're right to call this out. I hate this unannounced obscelence. They were selling the device until a few months ago and if it's suddenly not working on the latest OS then that is absolutely appalling support. I go to lots of gigs and support smaller bands by buying their music and merch (they get nothing from streaming) and use an old knock-off superdrive (got from ebay for next to nothing haha) for ripping the CD's quite often. I used to use an old 2007 iMac, just for this purpose until it died recently. I can't be the only peron who still rips or burns CD's?
 
Insanity Incompetence at its finest.
Not really looking forward to Apple updates of any kind these days. They can't seem to get either hardware or software to work very well.

Yes, all similar companies have issues. But Apple was not this bad in the past, there were issues here or there, but not like now. I'm talking over the decades as well, not just a year or two.

Apple's overall quality of just about everything they make these days has gone downhill and seems like it's just getting worse with each release of anything. Not looking forward to Apple in 2025. Which is sad :(
Couldn't agree more, I had the same conversation with Apple Executive relations just this week and they really could not have cared less. The kind of profits they have, growth they have, they just don't care while sales and profits grow.
 
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Qobuz has CD-quality audio. Sure, it costs a bit more, but you do get true quality. And there are small tools on GitHub that you can use to download the FLACs.
yep! I use them as well. Unfortunately, Qobuz and 7Digital don't always have everything i'm looking for.
 
A search for the cd I bought shows that none of those services have it (and I searched others). This is from an artist which has a new album coming in January, her 7th album. Why none of the services have that particular album in America is beyond me.
Alright, maybe it's a rights issue then? I'm European, so it could make a difference as to what is available.
 
Soooooo something doesn't work properly with a beta software "release" and people are somehow surprised at this?
 
Soooooo something doesn't work properly with a beta software "release" and people are somehow surprised at this?
The company makes the OS. The company makes the hardware. The company boasts this level of perfectly integrated harmony between hardware and software as a unicorn-level of unique bliss that nobody else in the world could possibly have because of said integration.

That company screwed up a mouse and keyboard. Again.
 
On a similar note, it has always annoyed me that they add Bluetooth trackpad and mouse support to iOS, but they won’t allow the Magic Trackpad and mouse to connect to the iPhone. And I know the trackpad would work fine, as it is great with the iPhone via a cable connection. Just more built-in operating system limitations that don’t make sense.
 
Sooo...Would Seqoia on OCLP support it, or no?

Nothing is actually supported once you get OCLP involved, by definition.

If the new keyboards/mice show up as generic USB/bluetooth accessories on the OCLP machine with an older/unreleased macOS version, I would suspect they will show up with the same functionality as the prior generation keyboards/mice on 15.1.
 
Really? Avoiding a leak on usb-c accessories everyone knew will come this year because of regulations? I guess their whole security team was protecting the keyboard then, because everything else leaked :D

Maybe you don’t know Apple very well, why do you think a site like MacRumors exists?

Would you like to make a bet about these accessories working well under older macOS versions in due time? are you stupid?
 
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With the launch of new M4 Macs this week, Apple introduced USB-C versions of the Magic Mouse, Magic Trackpad, and Magic Keyboard to continue on with phasing out the Lightning port. Apple users who plan to buy these new accessories should be aware that there are some software limitations currently.

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The new USB-C accessories require macOS Sequoia 15.1 to work properly, and as noted on the MacRumors forums, earlier versions of macOS do not work. There are reports from users running macOS Sonoma and Ventura who are having issues with the new devices. With the keyboard, Touch ID and function keys don't work, and with the Magic Mouse, the scrolling doesn't function. In some cases, the accessories are recognized as older devices, inhibiting proper functionality.

This isn't a problem limited to just people running older versions of macOS, because there are also reports from developers who have installed the first macOS Sequoia 15.2 beta. It appears that the macOS Sequoia 15.2 beta was released before Apple could add in support for the new Magic Mouse, Magic Keyboard, and Magic Trackpad.

macOS Sequoia 15.1 seems to be required to use the accessories as intended at the current time. For those who had an older version of macOS, updating to macOS Sequoia 15.1 did solve the functionality issues, and Apple should be adding support to the macOS Sequoia 15.2 beta in the near future.

Article Link: PSA: Apple's New USB-C Accessories Require macOS Sequoia, Don't Work Properly With macOS 15.2 Beta
Better stick to PC's for stationary computers.

Apple's strengths are the iPads and the Apple TV.
 
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I don't get how Apple can make a KEYBOARD or MOUSE that doesn't work, at least the basic functionality and not necessarily special functions or buttons, on every single device that has USB-C. WTF Apple? What can be so gosh-darn special about a keyboard that it requires the latest and greatest Mac OS. What If I want to also use it on my work PC?
 
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