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Thanks. I was thinking of installing ESX but the LTS support of Ubuntu is attractive, less frequent custom installs.
Ubuntu i.e. Canonical are now only offering LTS and Developer versions. They NO longer encourage 6-8 month distros. Linux developers are getting away from that strategy. Currently OpenSUSE.org offers two version, LTS and their 6-8 month distros. Even Linux Mint has gone to LTS and even allows for smooth upgrades.
 
Would you like Apple to release iOS source code to third parties so that they can provide fixes into the distant future? Because there are some really really important security implications around that...
Yes.

I should note that large amounts of macOS is actually open source. Check out their github account here - look for repositories that mention Darwin:

And WebKit is also open source. Here's the repo on github for that:

Presumably if you look through the WebKit repo it's possible to find the change that patches the zero day that this MR article is about.

Edit: Actually, I found it. Apple's release notes included the bug number on Bugzilla, and Bugzilla links to this PR on Github:


I'm not able to tell where the vulnerability was, how to exploit it, or how it was fixed just by glancing at this.

I am disappointed that this was apparently fixed 15 days ago but Apple took all this time to actually distribute the fix to us.

Anyways... just having the code be open source isn't enough for us to be able to repair what Apple won't. Apple needs to also provide whatever else we need to be able to compile this fix for, say, iOS 9 so that I can install it on an old iPod Touch that I let my kids use.
 
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That's a weird take. All it does is push people away from Safari and onto alternatives like Chrome or Firefox or Edge that will not have this vulnerability.
They'll all have the same vulnerabilty, all browsers on iOS use the same Safari based browser package.
 
More reason for Apple to compartmentalize iOS more. Why should Safari patches be locked in with the OS update? This is where Apple should take example from Android, where the web view and browser can be updated independently from the OS. As such, older devices that won’t receive further OS updates can still get the latest patches for the browser.
 
The flaw, according to Apple, could allow bad actors to "process maliciously crafted web content" that may lead to "arbitrary code execution."

This man has been brought in for questioning:
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Yeah, that's his silliest material. Smith isn't in the same league as luminaries like De Niro, Day-Lewis, or Hoffman, but his performances in Pursuit of Happyness and Ali (both of which garnered him Academy Award and Golden Globe Best Actor nominations) showed he certainly knows his craft.

You want an example of a true bad actor? Here you go:

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This is why we need Right to Repair.

Because customers want to keep using the things they've bought after companies want to (or are able to) support them.

Just because the original company doesn't want to support something anymore shouldn't mean it's garbage now. Customers should be free to fix it themselves, and if there's enough people out there who want a fix, it should be possible for a business to be started around providing that fix.

(This does have major implications for how companies should be handling source code, build/dev tools, and documentation... I'd say that when software reaches EOL, it needs to be made open source. Like ID Software has always done.)
I've been into computers for a long time and I've seen (and still own) lots of obsolete hardware and software. (Want a Tandy TRS-80 Model 100 "laptop"?

I agree that parts and aids to repair of iphones should be required to be available but I think you'll admit that probably 1 or 2% of owners are qualified to do it. It's more practical to trade in when a device becomes impractical.

I don't see Apple source code or other intellectual property being made open source. Too many active secrets buried in the code.
 
Is that the rendering engine that is used in Safari? Or the rendering engine that is used in the Mail app? Or the rendering engine that is used in the iTunes Store App? Or the rendering engine that is used by numerous third party iOS apps? Or is it all of the above?

Is that the rendering engine that gets fixed when Apple provide an update? Or is it the engine that doesn't get updated by a lazy third party developer in his web app?

It's not quite so simple a choice, you see...
Uh, ok. What I hate to use is safari the browser, and this security fix will not address issues I encountered when using safari for sure. As for other uses of safari, um, idk. I don’t use Apple Music. I do use mail a lot. Judging by the article this “kernel” is very deep it seems. I’ll have to think about it.
At the very least, Apple should disable Safari on devices it is not going to fix.
And expect huge backlash and confusion from people saying their browsers won’t work anymore, jobs can’t be done. Entertainment impossible. And so on.
We’ve been through 2 years of disruption for covid. You should be able to imagine the backlash if safari browser is disabled. Not to mention, there are no alternative rendering engine on iOS.
As for the cost, you can’t persuade those people who needing that specific function from those devices to go for bleeding edge “for the security”. Cost is and will always be a major factor when implementing something, sometimes a literal dealbreaker.
 
That's just the reality of technology. At some point it becomes financially prohibitive to update older devices. Ironically, the hardware is so well made that it lasts longer than its firmware viability does.
True, but Apple obsoletes hardware much more quickly than Microsoft. Windows 10 can support machines as early as 2004, and will do so until October 14, 2025. Monterey doesn't support most Apple computers before 2015. When you are charging top dollar for the devices you're selling, the customer has a reasonable expectation that they will be supported longer than a typical cheap Windows machine.
 
True, but Apple obsoletes hardware much more quickly than Microsoft. Windows 10 can support machines as early as 2004, and will do so until October 14, 2025. Monterey doesn't support most Apple computers before 2015. When you are charging top dollar for the devices you're selling, the customer has a reasonable expectation that they will be supported longer than a typical cheap Windows machine.
Worse, Apple never actually provide support timeline for any of their products. Meanwhile, Microsoft has clear timeline of support for their OSes. You wouldn't know the exact support duration of the Mac or iphone you buy right now.

And you can never know when Apple would pull shenanigans like iOS 14 and 15, where Apple promised iOS 14 support alongside 15, but then simply lied and didn't so it at all.
 
Even Android is supported longer, at least from an app standpoint. For example I have a phone from 2016 (Android 6.0) and a large majority of apps are still updatable on it even if the OS isn’t including important ones like Chrome which is going to be the access point for a lot of malware. With Safari still coupled to iOS once that device can’t reach the latest iOS your going to be vulnerable.
 
Funny. This is an actual headline on Fox News and a secondary headline on CNN, yet MacRumors has it listed three stores down like it’s nothing. I’m not sure if it’s a large issue or if MacRumors is simply downplaying it.
Or - Fox, CNN, et al are blowing it out of proportion. There’s an update, install it, problem solved.
 
Not using Safari in this case would be the fix. This is why it was important for Apple to allow default browsers to be changed.
Except on iOS, essentially, all browsers are Safari because Apple requires third-party browsers to use WebKit.

So yes, if you use Firefox on your iPhone, you're susceptible to a Safari bug, and the only available fix is updating the entire operating system.
 
While the security fixes are always important and appreciated, I’ve moved to Edge, which work far far better than Safari has been lately on my M1 fleet.
I’m considering ditching Safari too,it has become more and more sluggish and now days never as reliable as other browsers.
The only issue making me not switch is the passwords and keychains.
 
That's just the reality of technology. At some point it becomes financially prohibitive to update older devices. Ironically, the hardware is so well made that it lasts longer than its firmware viability does.
It shouldn’t be.
We’re talking about hundreds of thousands perfectly functional devices 5-6 years old that people use.
It’s very irresponsible to just abandon them and expect everyone to use the latest model.
 
Did me a favour tbh , my iMac was on Mojave and having various finder issues but worried about all the upgrade horror stories I’ve read … , upgraded to Monterey and now it’s like a rocket , seriously impressed. Having an ssd when I bought the Mac has really paid off by the look of it

Not quite so impressed with the flat UI , it’s very .. what’s the word ? Bland … I thought big sur onwards was supposed to be colourful ?
 
True, but Apple obsoletes hardware much more quickly than Microsoft. Windows 10 can support machines as early as 2004, and will do so until October 14, 2025. Monterey doesn't support most Apple computers before 2015. When you are charging top dollar for the devices you're selling, the customer has a reasonable expectation that they will be supported longer than a typical cheap Windows machine.
It's always the customer who gets the last say by voting with their wallet and right now those customer are saying they are willing to put up with Apple's timeline to obsolete their devices. Apple will only react when sales fall off the table. As more and more people keep buying their computers, extending the life of those Macs is not high on Apple's to do list. That is why I decided to breathe new air into the life of my 2012 Mini buying installing Ubuntu which extends the usefulness of Mini for the foreseeable future.
 
I'm updating my iPad and iPhone but I will probably be keeping my iMac on Mojave because of legacy software that I need. Any idea if apple has/will release a security fix for Mojave and does this even affect Mojave?
 
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It shouldn’t be.
We’re talking about hundreds of thousands perfectly functional devices 5-6 years old that people use.
It’s very irresponsible to just abandon them and expect everyone to use the latest model.
I get that we're talking about millions of abandoned devices but they don't have to go into a landfill. And it's not like they are bricking the things. I have a friend who insists on holding on to her iPhone 4 because it runs one app that she needs.
 
Did me a favour tbh , my iMac was on Mojave and having various finder issues but worried about all the upgrade horror stories I’ve read … , upgraded to Monterey and now it’s like a rocket , seriously impressed. Having an ssd when I bought the Mac has really paid off by the look of it

Not quite so impressed with the flat UI , it’s very .. what’s the word ? Bland … I thought big sur onwards was supposed to be colourful ?
What year iMac model do you have?
 
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