To be fair it’s all relative, Apple could buy Masimo out of pocket change, but your point is def valid in that this definitely isnt just a fly-by-night patent troll company being dickish.
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Pulse Oximetry Company Masimo Wants the Apple Watch Series 6 Banned
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I'm trying to wrap my head around employees moving to Apple and knowingly sharing their knowledge. Shouldn't the axe fall on the workers?
Does anyone know the patent numbers? I can't find the new ones. This is the only open case I see.
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So it’s not a medical device, just a toy, yet Masimo is worried about what? Eating into their sales of medical grade devices to hypochondriacs who don’t need a good O2 sensor and are using a watch instead of overbuying for their product?
There are plenty of other less expensive ways to non-medically track your O2. I have one that cost 1/10th the price of the watch and is more accurate, though you don’t have it on constantly. Still not medical grade.
There are plenty of other less expensive ways to non-medically track your O2. I have one that cost 1/10th the price of the watch and is more accurate, though you don’t have it on constantly. Still not medical grade.
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Masimo told the ITC that banning the Apple Watch Series 6 will not impact the public because the pulse oximetry functionality in the device is "not essential to the public health or welfare," and the Apple Watch's blood oxygen monitoring is not a true medical device."
So Masimo makes medical devices, says Apple Watch is not a medical device, but complains it infringes on its medical device patents. anyone else confused?
Masimo told the ITC that banning the Apple Watch Series 6 will not impact the public because the pulse oximetry functionality in the device is "not essential to the public health or welfare," and the Apple Watch's blood oxygen monitoring is not a true medical device."
So Masimo makes medical devices, says Apple Watch is not a medical device, but complains it infringes on its medical device patents. anyone else confused?
Well I’m not picking sides until these investigations are concluded. Anyone who is should really re-evaluate their loyalties and whether they want to be useful members of a law-driven society.
I suspect that if they allow Apple to use it for non-medical uses and Apple goes through certification to be considered a medical device they won't be able to fight it later.
In certain sectors that is not allowed without a period of "gardening leave". In Formula one, key members of teams don't from one to a direct competitor without upto 18 months out of the sport to stop technology/information being transfered.
The fact that this does not seem to happen in the technology sector truly baffles the mind. Employess may do it without even realising what they are doing.
Yeah this confused me. So Apple is copying your patents but you’re saying the technology they’re using is ineffective? So does that mean Masimo’s technology isn’t good?
This just shows the absurdity of a corporation owning ideas. The fix is easy. Whoever invents it owns it. This would motivate companies to take care to not let their employees perceive greener grass.
So you support Apple infringing patents from other companies without paying a cent.
Ridiculous forum, it’s almost a cult.
- Apple's product infringes on our medical technology and threatens our business.
- Apple's product isn't a viable medical device.
My thoughts exactly! Feels like they undermined their entire argument with that claim.
The land of lawsuits, America is.
The will be assuming that at some point Apple will seek certification for the pulse ox feature.
It's tricky when it's a product that requires vast, expensive R&D - but is easy to copy.
Pharmaceuticals is an obvious example.
Complain about profiteering all you like, but drugs companies get a narrow window of several years between the drug coming to market and the patent expiring, within which to recoup their costs.
And those profits have to compensate for the large number of drugs that swallow a lot of R&D costs and never make it to market.
Remove that profit and they have no incentive to continue innovating.
I think that is completely true, but I think that the patents being given out for technology are too vague. So, Masimo has a patent on their devices using "light", so now anybody makes another that uses "light" is infringement? even if it uses a different light or a different way of using the same light? I think this goes on too much in all aspects of patent filings.
I am not saying we remove it. I am saying we regulate it. The company can keep getting the benefits of exclusivity, but that should come with an added expense of maintaining the employee on the payroll.
Your most productive employees will cost you more. As they should.
Lol at all the people saying "I already got mine". If you think about it for a second, this is all software based. One possible remedy would be to turn the feature off via software release.
But that is why they are hired....maybe not to bring "trade secrets" but experience. In that vein, so if you worked in design/engineering at Ford, you would not be able to leave Ford and go to Toyota?
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Exactly.
Big Headline: Big Company Gets Sued. Also Sun Rises in East.
Patent suing is an industry in and ion itself. You name the big company and you'll see the lawsuits. One extra benefit right now is suing Apple comes with free headlines everywhere.
(extra benefit for the anti Apple crowd, a new topic to go into hysterics about).