So the only major versions of android for you are those which have major UI changes?
I would tend to think that completely changing the underlying app framework is a more major change.
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So the only major versions of android for you are those which have major UI changes?
I would tend to think that completely changing the underlying app framework is a more major change.
Android went from being something nice to looking like somebody barfed on the screen, good lord. If Android "L" is the future, that's pretty sad.
And how do they do all that to the UI yet they STILL can't get native CalDav, CardDAV, and IMAP folder mapping in the stock client?
And how do they do all that to the UI yet they STILL can't get native CalDav, CardDAV, and IMAP folder mapping in the stock client?
Uhhh, in order to overhaul the UI, significant changes are made to the underlying framework. And let's see, Google just announced 5000 API changes to the next version. Are you arguing for my point or against? Cause it seems like the former, rather than the later.
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Neither am I. In fact answering the phone via the PC or even a watch is kind of gimmicky to me. I'm sure there are uses for it, but that would be for places like businesses.
I would just prefer Google bought Push bullet and added a layer into the 'Chrome to Phone' app that allowed for this inherent ability on any PC running the Chrome extension.
Probably, lollipop was the code name given to 4.5
I will be really disappointed if there are no tablets announced tomorrow.
They could make Android 5 look exactly the same as 4.4 and it still would be a massive change worthy of a major version number.
You were very much making it sound like it needs a UI overhaul to be considered a "major release". You're putting the horse before the cart - the UI looks and behaves differently because of the major underlying changes.
I'm sorry if you have trouble understanding that.
Without seeing them in action, it sounds like it works a lot like the app Slidelock works already.
From the guy who started the thread- "How worried are Google and Microsoft"?
I dont see how Apple announcing copys of Google is more impressive than what you saw today with over 5000 APIs, and a new UI of a new OS and more but ....you did start that thread. I dont care about wearables but many others do.
And if Android still cant play audio in the background, wow...one complaint? There are still many things iOS cant do that Android does even with their new announcements.
Truth is , iOS took one step forward recently trying to catch up and today it went two steps back.
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Well, because there will likely be devices with all of these new animations. Google, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG and to a lesser extent Motorola (near stock UI) all released devices in the past year running 'stock' Android. Nobody's making you choose the devices that are skinned and they're not the only option available (though I understand this is less true outside of the US).
People tout the openness Android and all the benefits it offers--well, that means it's open to all kinds of implementations--gotta take the good with the not so good.
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I'm very particular, I love it being built in and Google has finally done this
Agreed, and the brief demo I saw on video today looked pretty nice.
What I am curious to see is how loud the uproar is about the the new 'heads-up' notifications which seem to be the Android equivalent to iOS's banner notifications, something I've seen proponents of Android's system of notifications rail on since its implementation on iOS. And to be honest, they seem even larger and more intrusive on Android.
Don't get me wrong--I really like these two elements being added to Android--makes it the complete notification package, so to speak, IMO.
They may or may not have. I think calling it "L" implies that while it is the next iteration, it is incomplete.
Well, because there will likely be devices with all of these new animations. Google, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG and to a lesser extent Motorola (near stock UI) all released devices in the past year running 'stock' Android. Nobody's making you choose the devices that are skinned and they're not the only option available (though I understand this is less true outside of the US).
People tout the openness Android and all the benefits it offers--well, that means it's open to all kinds of implementations--gotta take the good with the not so good.
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Agreed, and the brief demo I saw on video today looked pretty nice.
What I am curious to see is how loud the uproar is about the the new 'heads-up' notifications which seem to be the Android equivalent to iOS's banner notifications, something I've seen proponents of Android's system of notifications rail on since its implementation on iOS. And to be honest, they seem even larger and more intrusive on Android.
Don't get me wrong--I really like these two elements being added to Android--makes it the complete notification package, so to speak, IMO.
I'm in love with everything announced today, problem is that they have dropped support for my phone so I'll be waiting for a port till tomorrow and XDA will probably have something for me
I'm in love with everything announced today, problem is that they have dropped support for my phone so I'll be waiting for a port till tomorrow and XDA will probably have something for me
They are dropping support? Or nexus 4 doesn't get the preview?
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I was under the impression that the preview is for only the 5 but the 4 would eventually get the release.
Edit: apparently not. That's somewhat disappointing.
I was under the impression that the preview is for only the 5 but the 4 would eventually get the release.
Edit: apparently not. That's somewhat disappointing.
I think 1.5 years is up. I'll just flash a port since I know XDA is good about that sort of thing lol
I don't think Google ever stated that they will arbitrarily limit the updates of a device to 18 months. They wanted OEMs to support their devices with updates for at least 18 months...
So I should get the full version of 5.0 when it's released? Regardless I can't wait that long and will be flashing it to my phone, screenshots will be uploaded tomorrow
So I should get the full version of 5.0 when it's released? Regardless I can't wait that long and will be flashing it to my phone, screenshots will be uploaded tomorrow
Im just saying I dont believe there is any policy reason why you wouldnt get the update (there certainly isnt a technical reason). That being said, Google might decide it isn't financially viable to do it!
I remember reading a Google+ post from a Google dev that they fully intended the Galaxy Nexus to get Kitkat (which was well over 18 months at that point) but that Texas Instruments wasn't able to provide the drivers for the SoC.
That's very interesting, thanks for that. So the only reason the nexus 5 got it as a preview would be because it's a reference device.
Factory reset has been around since last year, iOS in the car was announced with iOS7 and Air Play mirroring has been around since iOS6, so errm...
From the guy who started the thread- "How worried are Google and Microsoft"?
I dont see how Apple announcing copys of Google is more impressive than what you saw today with over 5000 APIs, and a new UI of a new OS and more but ....you did start that thread. I dont care about wearables but many others do.
And if Android still cant play audio in the background, wow...one complaint? There are still many things iOS cant do that Android does even with their new announcements.
Truth is , iOS took one step forward recently trying to catch up and today it went two steps back.
Apple also announced 4000 new APIs. Android L major improvements were largely copying Apple's iOS too. And if not copying iOS then catching up with the Android counterparts by other OEMS like Do not Disturb, or auto rotation lock.
They both had their unique features too. Though, in my opinion, IOS had the more interesting unique features as I find continuity more useful than all the car, watch, TV integration combined.
My point is, both copied and both innovated. Which innovation people found more interesting and useful is subjective. So please don't say that IOS is two steps behind as if it's a fact.