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Listen Folks, lets see some data:
iPhone 5s: 7.6 mm thick
iPhone 6: 6.9 mm
iPhone 6s: 7.1 mm, +0.2 mm because of Force Touch
iPhone 6' camera bump: 0.7 mm

What if the iPhone 6s added 0.7 mm to the 6' thickness?
we would get a 7.6 mm thick iPhone 6s with no camera protrusion, force touch, and a ~15% larger battery (2081 mAh) at the same thickness of the iPhone 5s, that you all know it's not a thick phone. that would be pretty great.
What do you think?
 
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2 GB RAM is widely anticipated.. Also possible is sapphire screen for the iPhone 6S.
Not really. First there hasn't been many rumours about it, second there isn't much advantage of it. The scratch resistance means nothing while the oleophobic coating is still on. Even if it was scratchproof, it would come at a price. One, price, obviously, two, it would be more brittle, and people already have problems with it shattering. And let's be real, is there really that much demand for a scratch resistant cover glass?
 
Listen Folks, lets see some data:
iPhone 5s: 7.6 mm thick
iPhone 6: 6.9 mm
iPhone 6s: 7.1 mm, +0.2 mm because of Force Touch
iPhone 6' camera bump: 0.7 mm

What if the iPhone 6s added 0.7 mm to the 6' thickness?
we would get a 7.6 mm thick iPhone 6s with no camera protrusion, force touch, and a ~15% larger battery (2081 mAh) at the same thickness of the iPhone 5s, that you all know it's not a thick phone. that would be pretty great.
What do you think?

I said above, the 6.9mm is measured at the thickest point. I don't believe that the camera hump is 0.7mm thick. Source? But my point is that the phone without the hump is in reality 6.5mm or, if you are correct, 6.2mm thick. So if they made the phones about 7.1mm thick, as the render suggests, without the hump, it would actually be quite a lot thicker, meaning a bigger battery. So you will probably get what you wish for.
 
Not really. First there hasn't been many rumours about it, second there isn't much advantage of it. The scratch resistance means nothing while the oleophobic coating is still on. Even if it was scratchproof, it would come at a price. One, price, obviously, two, it would be more brittle, and people already have problems with it shattering. And let's be real, is there really that much demand for a scratch resistant cover glass?
With the cost of a sapphire display, they could have added more ram and made the base storage 64gb. No way is apple going to make Sapphire standard, maybe if they make one version with saphire and give it a $100 premium will they introduce it.
 
I said above, the 6.9mm is measured at the thickest point. I don't believe that the camera hump is 0.7mm thick. Source? But my point is that the phone without the hump is in reality 6.5mm or, if you are correct, 6.2mm thick. So if they made the phones about 7.1mm thick, as the render suggests, without the hump, it would actually be quite a lot thicker, meaning a bigger battery. So you will probably get what you wish for.

No, you are totally wrong: ~6.9 mm is at the thinnest point, and the camera protrude ~0.7-0.8 mm out of the phone (the thickness at the thickest point is 7.6 mm, the same as the 5s) where did i get it? just looked at the case manufacturing guidelines PDF apple has. here are some screenshots
 

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Not really. First there hasn't been many rumours about it, second there isn't much advantage of it. The scratch resistance means nothing while the oleophobic coating is still on. Even if it was scratchproof, it would come at a price. One, price, obviously, two, it would be more brittle, and people already have problems with it shattering. And let's be real, is there really that much demand for a scratch resistant cover glass?

Speaking only for myself, I'd sign up for a sapphire screen quickly and I'd pay a premium for that. A 20 year old sapphire screen Rolex without a trace of a scratch is the reason why. Oleophobic coating isn't what scratches, by the way, it's semi viscous. So far as brittleness is concerned, that's probably a bigger issue for people that are careless with their phones.

Ming Chi Kuo has reported a possibility of a sapphire screen for the iPhone 6S, at least in limited quantity.
 
… all other buttons and ports remain unchanged.

Totally expected of course, but a shame nonetheless. Hoping they move the lock button back to the top in iPhone 7. Over 9 months with the iPhone 6 and I still hate how they've placed it right under my thumb (and directly opposite the volume buttons). It's an off switch for pete's sake.
 
I hope not, that button is useful.

If your ideology there held true, we'd never have automobiles and you'd be driving a horse-pulled wagon to work each day. For the sake of progress and technological innovation, Apple will come up with a way to dramatically improve the home button and shrink that ridiculous oversized bezel.
 
I was being sarcastic from the endless discussions about 1GB being enough for the iPhone 6 and iPad Air. Lots of people here argued that 2GB was unnecessary and 1GB was all that was needed.
I understand that, but there was validity to those discussions. No need to be sarcastic about people's points of view.
 
If your ideology there held true, we'd never have automobiles and you'd be driving a horse-pulled wagon to work each day. For the sake of progress and technological innovation, Apple will come up with a way to dramatically improve the home button and shrink that ridiculous oversized bezel.

How is removing the home button good from a user perspective? The only upside is a smaller bezel, and that doesn't really help the user experience much.
 
Yup, bothers me enough not to buy it. That and the antenna breaks. For a company that are all about aesthetics, (apparently), the 6 is a travesty.

There is an easy way to get rid of it. A thicker phone. I’d prefer that.

Double yes.

I know we hold Apple to high design standards - but that's because they hire the best designers in the world, we expect the best from them.

Jony didn't have the balls or the clout to say "no" when the engineers proposed a camera module too thick for the device. As for the antenna bands, that's just bad design.

All of us expect the most beautiful, refined products the world produces from this normally meticulous company. For many of us, this simply wasn't good enough.
 
Well, for me the reason to have a case on my iPhone is to protect it from the inevitable drop and/or water damage. If Apple made a rugged & waterproof iPhone, then I'd be happy to drop the case, but that's not going to happen anytime soon.

Surely, if you had a case, you'd be happy to drop it, because it would protect your iPhone. You wouldn't need a rugged iPhone, as the case would protect it.

Seems to me you mean the opposite of what you say. If you didn't have a rugged iPhone, you'd be happy to drop the case, as it would protect it.
 
I understand that, but there was validity to those discussions. No need to be sarcastic about people's points of view.
I understand that, but there was validity to those discussions. No need to be sarcastic about people's points of view.

Other than blindly defending Apple, I didn't see much validity at all. Any other company would have been raked over the coals for the same thing.
 
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Double yes.

I know we hold Apple to high design standards - but that's because they hire the best designers in the world, we expect the best from them.

Jony didn't have the balls or the clout to say "no" when the engineers proposed a camera module too thick for the device. As for the antenna bands, that's just bad design.

All of us expect the most beautiful, refined products the world produces from this normally meticulous company. For many of us, this simply wasn't good enough.

So, you wanted a 1mm thicker phone (and 15% heavier)? Cause that's what would happen with no bump. Many people don't want that. Design and function must work together.
 
Other than blindly defending Apple, I didn't see much validity at all. Any other company would have been raked over the coals for the same thing.
I'm sure there are people that would say hoping for a measly 2GB of RAM would be "blindly defending" Apple, instead of demanding 3GB of RAM like Samsung has been putting in their phones recently.

Accusing people of "blindly defending" Apple is just another way of trying to shut down discussions without actually trying to participate in them.
 
I'm sure there are people that would say hoping for a measly 2GB of RAM would be "blindly defending" Apple, instead of demanding 3GB of RAM like Samsung has been putting in their phones recently.

Accusing people of "blindly defending" Apple is just another way of trying to shut down discussions without actually trying to participate in them.

Whatever you say.:rolleyes:
 
So, you wanted a 1mm thicker phone (and 15% heavier)? Cause that's what would happen with no bump. Many people don't want that. Design and function must work together.

I'd be perfectly fine with that. (but that's only my subjective feeling, ) Could also be a slightly lower quality camera unit. Anything to lose a wobbly back panel.

Also the point is, all these elements don't just suddenly come together. Apple either knew for a year plus that the camera would protrude, or at the last minute the engineers introduced a new camera component that didn't allow for the product to be redesigned to accommodate it properly.

In any way, it was a failure in teams communicating.
 
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