i hear you Applejuiced!! Been riddle with problems since the update from 04.26.08 to 05.11.07 and i refuse to use blacksn0w (because i do not need to!)
Best to stay where you are until the dev team revise a solution (if they do!)
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Pwnage tool OR blackra1n ??????
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i hear you Applejuiced!! Been riddle with problems since the update from 04.26.08 to 05.11.07 and i refuse to use blacksn0w (because i do not need to!)
Best to stay where you are until the dev team revise a solution (if they do!)
Wat? Honestly, is your purpose to attack someone else o help others? Now, yes, I've used blackra1n and it did cause headaches.
However, I never knew you were me to know so much of what I use!
I'm a computer nut so I researched this very question and found that while both had complaints both had mostly success. I also wanted the most stable and properly functioning JB possible. Having used quickpwn in windows with great success for a 2G, I trust DevTeam. Geohot is awesome and has made an incredible tool for windows. But I am old school and want to do it myself with a fresh manual setup of all my apps and data. I have no access to a modern osx mac so I actually had to build my own Hackintosh so I could load Pwnage 3.1.4 for Mac. Mind you it must be and Intel mac (not ppc) and running itunes 9 for 3gs (which is nice and fast for aps and backups). I loaded iatkos 5i on my acer 3690 and after many very late nights I even updated to 10.5.8!! Took about TEN tries to finally restore to my custom.ipsw! I've loaded it up with all the goodies now and it's load and nearly as stable as fast as my stock 3.1.2 but not quite.. I'll trade that for cydia..
If you have recently purchased an iphone you may have a new bootrom which means pwnage is out.
If you dont have a mac....pwnage is out.
I recently posted the same question and while most thought blackrain was the best choice...I disagreed for the following reasons:
1. Blackrain is causing WIFI issues to surface
2. Blackrain requires you to install the unmodified 3.1.2 OS which also upgrades the phones firmware
I wanted to preserve maximum flexibility in the phone as well as resale value.
If you have a mac...then pwn. Otherwise your only choice is blackrain. If you have a new iphone with a new bootrom you will get a blackrain tethered JB meaning each time you restart the phone you will have to connect it to a computer and run Blackrain to reinstall/activate the jailbreak.
I started from 3.0 on a 3GS...I think 3.0 or 3.0.1 are ok, but once you go to 3.1.x you have a new baseband and pwnage will not work.
To the OP - blackra1n has worked for 1,000s (if not tens or hundreds of thousands) of people based on the hits on geohot's site. Forums are much more likely to attract people who had problems and, as this thread shows, much more likely to attract people who are looking to drop a dime on one solution and when challenged, claim to have used them both.
As I said earlier, try blackra1n, odds are it will work.
As I said earlier, try blackra1n, odds are it will work.
thanks, i agree with what you say. however, i do have a question. are you aware of any issues when installing apps under the tethered jailbreak?
if you are not familiar, in the earlier days, when the ipod touch 2nd gen had only tethered jb, it was difficult getting some apps to install. (like backgrounder)
do u know if such issues exist for this blackrain tethered jb?
What specific issues have you come upon? I've had the blackra1n tethered jailbreak since it first came out, and have yet to find a jailbreak app that I had trouble installing. Granted, I'm conservative about what I install, but I have winterboard, backgrounder, kirikae, sbsetting, lockinfo, to name some of the major jailbreak apps I've installed. I think winterboard and perhaps backgrounder required a reboot, making me run blackra1n again. But whenever I had to reboot, blackra1n worked without a hitch.
If anyone is wondering about blackra1n, I strongly suggest they give it a try. If it doesn't work, you can always restore / try pwnage tool.
You do realize that if your blackra1n jailbreak is tethered, your PwnageTool jailbreak will be, too?
Come to think of it, does Pwnage Tool even work on devices with the new bootrom? I don't remember if a new release of Pwnage Tool came out after the bootrom revision.
I dont think Pwnage works with the new bootrom at all.
You'd have to go with blackrain or wait till the dev team updates their tools.
You'd have to go with blackrain or wait till the dev team updates their tools.
The number of hits means nothing. Blackrain requires to load the new OS first. If the JB does not work, folks just reload the OS and go on their way. This is why we dont hear about more grief.
just my experience
blackra1n did not work right for my 3gs early release model not sure why. made it rain etc everything appeared fine cydia was there etc but no jb apps worked for me. tried redoing it again noting I tried this on both the pc and mac version of blackra1n. so I went to Pwnage Tools worked perfect. I am not dissing blackra1n just saying it might be a matter of which works best for you.
blackra1n did not work right for my 3gs early release model not sure why. made it rain etc everything appeared fine cydia was there etc but no jb apps worked for me. tried redoing it again noting I tried this on both the pc and mac version of blackra1n. so I went to Pwnage Tools worked perfect. I am not dissing blackra1n just saying it might be a matter of which works best for you.
hi night spring. as a buyer of an iphone 3gs refurb that may potentially contain the newer bootrom, do u find it to be a hassle having the option of not turning off the iphone? have there been instances where u were left stranded because your iphone had turned off? what is the frequency of this occuring? thanks!
Well, I actually have the tethered jailbreak on my ipod touch, not an iphone, but since I first used blackra1n, back when it first came out, I've never had my ipod touch reboot or power off unless I was doing it intentionally. It really isn't as much of a hassle as some people make it out to be, because the iphone/ipod touch is designed to work without ever being turned off, and having to reboot it is a rare occurence. That said, if you depend on your iPhone as your primary phone, I wouldn't recommend having it on a tethered jailbreak -- one never knows when your iphone might freeze up and require a reboot. (This has happened to me with non-jailbroken iphones/ipod touches!) I'm never more than a half hour away from a computer I can use to restart my ipod if it locks up and needs to be rebooted. It really depends on your circumstances and how much hassle it would be to *you* if you had to be without your iPhone for any amount of time.
Exactly! I run my iPhone for weeks at a time without rebooting turning it off. Mine isn't tethered, but if it were it would only mean a little more caution in updating Cydia apps.
blackra1n worked well for mine, I did run into issues with pwnage tool. I have not needed to do a reboot but except for one time in which I just hooked it back up and reran blackra1n. So far everything is good but I also use minimal jb apps, only winterboard, bossprefs and some themes. I would try blackra1n and see how it goes for you.
This is a perfect example of a post that creates confusion. They both work, I know because I have used both of them. People have issues with both.
I have iPhone 3GS withos: 3.1.2, and modemfirmware 05.11.07. Using iTunes 9.0. When I use blackRa1n it works but when I installed applications, it does not show the icons on the iPhone but itunes shows the space being taken up? Anything else I can do? Thanks
Did you try "reset home screen layout"? It's in the Settings app, General > Reset.